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I am so sick and tired of the bull shit that passes for English these days ...and TV isn't helping. I am sooooo fucking tired of being asked "Are you sure?" Yes G D it I am sure ...now go fuck your self! Is everyone trying to get me to second guess myself??? Stop it would ya ...just stop it!
The other little idiot phrases I have a problem with are: "To be honest with you" O yea? you mean you normally lie all the time? WTF Here's another one: "For all intents and purposes" yea ok ...you just have to fill up your talk time with words that basically say nothing. Wake up!
Last but not least: "You know what I'm saying" NO I FUCKING DON'T! WHY DON'T YOU FUCKING TELL ME AGAIN! ...AND THIS TIME SPLAIN IT TO ME!
Post the phrases you have a problem with.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)the way they ask for something is to shout at the poor cashier "YO! lemme get uh.... ________"
i may not speak the queens english, but at least I phrase a request like "could i get a pack of 1 1/4 EZ widers, please."
voteearlyvoteoften
(1,716 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)"Let me help whose next."
A simple "next" would do!
Maraya1969
(23,497 posts)to the waitress...."gimme a coffee"
I dated a guy like that. I almost slapped him in the head when he said that. It is the rudest thing I ever heard. I told him right then and there how rude it was and he never did it again.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)without using the F word about 15 times. Your point would actually be more effective, if you did.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Iris
(16,872 posts)um....No. It's, "If anything should happen to my partner or me" no "myself" necessary there. Great story going. You'd think the writers would have a better command of grammar.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Or should I say, "That's a pet peeve of myself,"?
Iris
(16,872 posts)lol!
Tikki
(15,140 posts)I think she might have missed that Harvard lecture on: me, myself and I.
And you are correct, it is a great story going on there.
Tikki
Iris
(16,872 posts)But I just don't see the character making those kinds of mistakes in general. It's not like she's been consistently written that way like the cop in NYPD Blue who always said "prostrate" when he meant "prostate"
Tikki
(15,140 posts)Ms. Enos is doing a terrific job in this role. So is Joel Kinnaman.
Tikki
Iris
(16,872 posts)I like this show so much. I also love Mad Men and wish they were on on separate nights. They are both intense in a different way and can take days to process.
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)so those kinds of things don't bother me.
Conversational English has always been riddled with phrases like those.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)dflprincess
(29,341 posts)Do you feel me? (I could scream when I hear someone say that - and the next time I might just "feel" them.)
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)Raine
(31,179 posts)I don't fucking care what "you believe" I once believed in Santa Claus and the toothfairy ... tell me what YOU KNOW!
dionysus
(26,467 posts)PDJane
(10,103 posts)Last edited Tue May 15, 2012, 04:25 PM - Edit history (1)
How about "Get my drift?"Yes, I do. Out to deep sea in a rowboat.
"It's so fun." There should be a much in there, no?
"At this point in time." As opposed to what?
"At a very young age." You mean, in childhood? As a teen? A young adult?
Can people please get the difference between lose and loose? Please?
Burgundy is not spelled burgandy.
gaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh................
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)dflprincess
(29,341 posts)Iggo
(49,928 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)...refers to a wine-stained cotton fabric.
treestar
(82,383 posts)such a redundancy! At this point or at this time would do. Let alone "now" or "then."
snooper2
(30,151 posts)You ever see a closed trench?
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Like, I ah like that time I like went over your house, and you were like, OMG I haven't seen you like like for such a long time. So like, what's happening.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)And the bullshit excuse for bad writing/grammar/syntax: "it's on the Internet - you know what they meant!" If what was meant is that the sentiment expressed isn't worth articulating clearly, then yes, yes I did understand that.
tridim
(45,358 posts)People are imperfect, and that's just fine.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I cannot stand that phrase. What day?
Bake
(21,977 posts)Closely followed by most business jargon ... "incent" or "incentivize."
Bake
Zax2me
(2,515 posts)Such angst.
Surely life has enough complications without adding undue rage.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,453 posts)ways to describe your mood or health, when they aren't. "I am good" and "I feel good" are the correct forms in those cases.
"Well" is an adverb that modifies the verb. Saying "I feel well" is saying you have a keen sense of touch, similar to saying "I swim well" or "I see well."
"Good" is an adjective and it modifies the subject "I" (as a subject complement); "feel" acts as a linking verb.
The same thing goes for insisting on "... and I" every time, even when it's incorrect. "She and I went to the movies" is correct. "Bob ate dinner with she and I" is not: it should be "with me and her."
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)so, saying "I am well" is fine. Even "I feel well" is OK, if it means, "I feel that I am in good health."
This one isn't a good example, I'm afraid. "Well" is also properly used as an adjective.
Adverb:
In a good or satisfactory way: "the whole team played well".
Adjective:
In good health; free or recovered from illness.
CTyankee
(68,202 posts)MineralMan
(151,269 posts)You can say whatever you want, it seems to me. Of course, someone may be along shortly to tell you otherwise, but not me.
Now, if you said, "You did good," nobody would have anything to say, as long as what you done was good or gooder.
CTyankee
(68,202 posts)of deepest affection.
Ex. if my granddaughter hits a home run and wins the softball game for her team.
Iris
(16,872 posts)like a business
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)You know what I mean!
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)this is a fun thread, I'm glad you have a sense of humor.
Iris
(16,872 posts)All I can do is laugh! Otherwise, I'd be just another "moran"!
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)See I'm saying? Spoken really fast translates to "you know what I'm saying" in these parts. "I know, right?" is very popular too.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Iggo
(49,928 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)my husband used to say breastisses for the word breasts. He would also call mayonnaise- marennaise
Iggo
(49,928 posts)No breastisses. I do say fistez instead if fists, and maskez instead of masks. But that's more of an ironic deal. However, I shall never EVER say "mines" as a first person possessive.
My friend hates it when I talk like that, I do it as a joke sometimes. Gangsta' talk.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)It is even starting to get into formal writing.
Also or just and would do.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Initech
(108,783 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)That and "hubby."
Dash87
(3,220 posts)I've never heard someone use those two phrases around here. Just on the internet.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I've heard them randomly, and a lot in magazines and such - maybe it's the evil media springing them on us!
wovenpaint
(1,472 posts)sets my teeth on edge...
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)First of all, it's ASK, not aks. Secondly, I think you already did.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I was going to say...
abolugi
(417 posts)the phrase" over-exaggerate" drives me nuts.
"Over exaggerate" is an exaggeration in itself..
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)I like birds asshole! I don't know who told you I hate birds but they misled you!
Indykatie
(3,868 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)are you sure that for all intents and purposes, that you don't just need to take a chill pill?
You know what I'm saying?
Marie Marie
(11,312 posts)Yes, I'm talking to you Bristol. You and your mother should learn to speak before shooting off your mouths. Other than that, hey, it's an imperfect world. Oh wait - did just think of one that drives me crazy. Teenagers that use "like" 20 times in one sentence. That is all.
treestar
(82,383 posts)"without further ado." You mean, that was all just 'ado?' You should have spared us!
snooper2
(30,151 posts)sour apple lollypops
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Tikki
(15,140 posts)so I've gotten to where I write the word folks, as folks, just to confuse them.
Tikki
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)I was posting some stuff on another website about phrases in Japanese.. someone asked about how to say..."Are you crazy?" ...sure, in English we hear that all the time.. and no one considers it a real insult.
But in Japanese it can be insulting..
"Are you crazy?" = *anata wa kichigai ka ?
Rule of thumb:
Avoid using it! It is very, very rude!!
Instead use..
Anata wa shoki desuka ? = Are you sure?
Japanese is a language based on levels of politeness. What passes for okay in English, may not work
in Japanese, as shown above.
*just a note about "anata". Anata means "You", a personal pronoun. Its always best to use the person's name in Japan, rather than saying "you". That in itself can be considered rude. For example the above sentence might look like this... "Tanaka san wa shoki desuka?" (Mr. Tanaka, are you sure?) More polite. Of course if you don't know the persons name, than "Anata" could be used. Then again, you could always ask
" Sumimasen, anata no Onamae wa nan desuka?" (excuse me, what is your name?)
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)intensive purposes".
tridim
(45,358 posts)Jesse Jackson taught me the meaning of the word "moot" in the 80's on SNL.
CTyankee
(68,202 posts)I thought that was a good one!
renate
(13,776 posts)That sounds like the person accepting the coffee is doing me a favor.
The response doesn't have to be a formal "Yes, please"; just an appreciative "That would be great" would be enough for me.
"Sure" didn't bug me until my kids' friends were old enough to come over without their parents, and I'd have to feed an ungrateful clientele their lunch or snacks. It's not difficult to teach kids to say a simple "Yes, please" or "No, thank you." (I wasn't giving the kids coffee, by the way--but now "Sure" from adults bugs me too.)
Now I sound like a grumpy old Grinch.
(I have to say... I don't mind another response that bothers other people. I like "No worries"--especially when someone is thanking me for something that's no big deal. "You're welcome" makes me feel like I'm being all gracious about something I was happy to do anyway, and "no worries" sounds light and casual, which among friends is appropriate, I think. But I try not to use it since I know I'm in the minority on this.)
Raine1967
(11,676 posts)I prefer to use the term regardless or irrespective.
The word irregardless is redundant -- or as some might say, irredundant.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)This is completely unrelated to the thread, but I also hate people that use words just to try to make themselves look smart. Yes, we get that you can use big words, many of which that you have no idea what they mean. Geez!
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)-..__...
(7,776 posts)PatSeg
(53,214 posts)"....if you will", "that being said", "the bottom line is", "none the less", etc.
Lies described as "categorically incorrect", "patently false", "factually incorrect" - what on earth do those mean? Is something factually incorrect, correct on a nonfactual basis? Can something be unpatently true? And I can even begin to fathom "categorically incorrect". My brain hurts!
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)You don't want my thoughts on that expression.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)All run together as if it's one word.
I want to slap her when she does that, because she isn't asking me if I know what she means. She just uses it like a period at the end of her sentence.
Catherine Vincent
(34,610 posts)I always thought they are asking you if you understood what they meant without saying "you understand what I mean?"
ipfilter
(1,287 posts)who starts nearly every exchange of a conversation with "like I said".
For example:
Me: It's really nice outside
Them: like I said, it is really nice.
Me: There's no wind at all today
Them: Yeah, like I said, we don't get many windless days around here.
MattBaggins
(7,948 posts)Catherine Vincent
(34,610 posts)Funny post. Thanks for the laugh.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)"I go, 'What do you want to do?' and he goes, 'Let's listen to music.'"
or
"I went, 'Where were you last night?' and he went, 'At the concert.'"
Only thing worse is substituting "like" ("I'm, like, 'What's going on?'"
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)It sounds so fucking pathetic.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)....and if you say "axe" instead of "ask" you get a swift kick in the bollocks as a parting gift...
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)What the hell is that supposed to mean anyway? Is the speaker in the habit of asking incurious questions?
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)What in the holy fuck is a "get go" anyway? I'm not terribly fond of "24/7" either.
I love this thread.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)none of those things bother me at all.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)I want to say, "Yes I know" every time the say it...then maybe they'd get the picture of how annoying they are.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)someone says "it's a win, win situation" they are the ones winning?
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)and what makes me mad is all the gaming slang. It's annoying when people say things like "pwned", "uber" and "boss battle". And on Pokemon gaming videos, people talk about in the metagame which Pokemon are "overused" and "underused", and what are the best "walls" and sweepers". Maybe I'm crazy, but all this gaming speak gets on my nerves.
Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)I had a really snarky friend who would always respond to that question with: "Who should I ask?"
I liked that.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I'm fine with most phrases and can't think of any I don't like. Individual words on the other hands...
I will never use "dude", unless I mean to use it in the following manner:
raccoon
(32,390 posts)How about "excuse me," or "What did you say?"
bluedeminredstate
(3,322 posts)I hate that this word has been so trivialized and rendered meaningless. When I hear anyone over the age of twenty use it it pisses me off even more. To take a word that means wondrous, and reduce it to the equivalent of cool, neat, or groovy is just so wrong.
The other word that drives me to blind fury is the right-wing use of Democrat, as in "The democrat governor of New Hampshire" or "The democrat party is going to lose the election." I know they do it because they know it's disrespectful, but it makes me furious anyway. When I heard that Scalia used the term during oral arguments on the healthcare law I wanted to punch him in the face.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)No shit, but how is that supposed to make me feel better?