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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 11:47 AM Jun 2015

What an entitled horrible horrible person: Supposedly he did it because girl he liked dated a black guy

From Tim Wise:

Before we dismiss this story as what it may well be -- an attempt to rationalize Roof's actions or at least humanize them -- let's reflect on the deeper and troubling meaning of this, if true. It appears as though the psycho-sexual insecurities of white manhood might be implicated in Roof's actions, in addition to other elements of racism. If so, this is supremely ironic, because it was only white supremacy --and its need to bestialize black men sexually and render them "threats" to white women (so as to control both those black men and the white women they supposedly coveted) -- that could have inspired this insecurity in the first place. Roof's insecurity and "shame" at "losing" "his woman" to a black guy was a "shame" he could only feel because this culture had so thoroughly inculcated the notion of a) white women as belonging to white men; b) white men as entitled to white women, and c) black men as hyper-sexual predators from whom those women need to be protected, but for whom they secretly lust anyway... White supremacist patriarchy is one sick ass philosophy of life.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/18/cousin-of-charleston-suspect-says-black-man-stole-roofs-love-interest/

Dalton Tyler, Roof’s roommate, told ABC News that Roof spoke of starting a civil war and that he advocated racial separatism. “He was big into segregation and other stuff. He said he wanted to start a civil war. He said he was going to do something like that and then kill himself,” Tyler said.

Scott Roof, who identified himself as Dylann Roof’s cousin, told me over the telephone that “Dylann was normal until he started listening to that white power music stuff.” He also claimed that “he kind of went over the edge when a girl he liked starting dating a black guy two years back.”

This scenario recalls a manifesto written by Elliot Rodger, who on May 23, 2014 gunned down six people in Isla Vista, California: “How could an inferior, ugly black boy be able to get a white girl and not me?”

“Dylann liked her,” Scott Roof said. “The black guy got her. He changed. I don’t know if we would be here if not …” Roof then abruptly hung up the phone.

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What an entitled horrible horrible person: Supposedly he did it because girl he liked dated a black guy (Original Post) gollygee Jun 2015 OP
If this story about the black guy dating the white girl Roof "liked", then there's not much reason ladjf Jun 2015 #1
Surprise, surprise. Orsino Jun 2015 #2
"You keep raping our women" gollygee Jun 2015 #4
I'd add that many women say they "lost their man." Igel Jun 2015 #6
On what planet is a "girl he liked" his Ex GF? That's not how it works. bettyellen Jun 2015 #3
Oh I got the impression from the article that it was a girlfriend gollygee Jun 2015 #5

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
1. If this story about the black guy dating the white girl Roof "liked", then there's not much reason
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 11:55 AM
Jun 2015

to look further for the immediate causes of his murders. Malcolm X often spoke about this sexual dynamic that was taking place in many white men's brains. If interested, look it up. It is highly relevant.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
4. "You keep raping our women"
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 12:01 PM
Jun 2015

But he didn't mean rape, did he? Or does he consider any sex between a black man and a white woman to be rape? Maybe it's "raping" a white man's property.

Igel

(35,780 posts)
6. I'd add that many women say they "lost their man."
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 12:38 PM
Jun 2015

Meaning that society also views men as women's property that can be stolen.

Meditate on this:

Metaphors we live by kill us.

Consider it an anti-koan: A paradox to meditate on to overturn enlightenment and lead us to reason.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
5. Oh I got the impression from the article that it was a girlfriend
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 12:02 PM
Jun 2015

but maybe it's was because I saw such a sense of entitlement. You're right and I'll edit that.

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