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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:10 PM Jun 2015

Thank you, America!!!



Yeah, that means you! YOU made this great day possible, by avoiding candidates with established track records of advocating for the little people. And here we are.

Checkmate, schmucks*!

And now that Republicans are my besties, we can finally work together to strengthen those damned entitlements that you people think you're entitled to.



*Attention jury: please don't believe the non-Yiddish-speaking fool who alerts when I use the word schmuck, claiming it's the worst imaginable insult ever in history. Just click the link above to find out more about it's actual usage.
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Thank you, America!!! (Original Post) MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 OP
Thank you America for finally being with those who are my family! cascadiance Jun 2015 #1
that twirling sound is dems of old spinning in their graves. Bastards. imagine what HST and FDR roguevalley Jun 2015 #44
FDR was a "free trader" NT 1939 Jun 2015 #73
free trader perhaps in the normal sense but not in the malignant sense that exists now. roguevalley Jun 2015 #78
I added a caption ... nikto Jun 2015 #57
Nice! cascadiance Jun 2015 #64
This site lets you add free captioning, online nikto Jun 2015 #81
Excelsior! Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #2
What is this about? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #3
Hatred of Obama randys1 Jun 2015 #5
I think he's going somewhere with this JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #6
The Senate voted for cloture on the TPA bill Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #8
I didn't realize that was part of the bill JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #11
Rep. Conyers: Obama Demanded Social Security Cuts--Not GOP MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #19
So Republicans have actually saved Social Security from evil Obama... Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #21
It's sad that you think it's funny. MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #22
Now Obama is sick and wants to harm seniors.... Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #23
Did he not repeatedly offer to cut Social Security benefits? nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #24
You find that funny? BeanMusical Jun 2015 #52
Until asked to confirm or deny an awful fact MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #59
Incredible the denial-bubble some folks live within, huh? nikto Jun 2015 #60
Well for what it's worth, Obama offered it the republicans turned it down. Autumn Jun 2015 #80
Well, Obama did cut Social Security. JoePhilly Jun 2015 #61
Was that before or after he declared war on Syria? zappaman Jun 2015 #66
That was his biggest error in my judgment, NEVER even remotely threaten soc sec, NEVER randys1 Jun 2015 #76
This thread is pretty ugly, but as a jury member I voted to leave it. randys1 Jun 2015 #4
Here - is something nice JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #7
But he has made a couple of bad moves so we just ignore the 291 accomplishments randys1 Jun 2015 #9
Like this one?... cascadiance Jun 2015 #48
I hope those children are wealthy MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #12
Well - they are black JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #14
Who can argue that black families have made great strides under Obama? MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #18
How is the TPP and cutting Social Security going to change that? zeemike Jun 2015 #34
I hardly ever vote to hide Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #36
IMO, one should always leave a comment when serving on a jury. nt City Lights Jun 2015 #37
I don't feel that way personally. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #38
no words.... V0ltairesGh0st Jun 2015 #10
Honoring a Bloody Sunday hero? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #13
What Changed ? V0ltairesGh0st Jun 2015 #16
He was promised entry into the Eternal Life 1% Club to bolt off the Planet. glinda Jun 2015 #17
No matter what he could possible do for the asshats, pocoloco Jun 2015 #35
K&R sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #15
The day democracy died. 99Forever Jun 2015 #20
Turns out he can negotiate with the Republicans, as long as they're on the same side. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2015 #46
Don't you guys claim that happened every couple weeks? JoePhilly Jun 2015 #63
Funniest part of this is,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2015 #25
Its sad you aren't aware that TPA passed. Not TPP Its used to avoid our Democratic Process. First RiverLover Jun 2015 #30
only the process of Fast Track has passed,,, now the details will be negotiated. Cryptoad Jun 2015 #69
We believe the people who have seen it, and the leaks. djean111 Jun 2015 #32
That one seems genuinely clueless so I doubt that they are trying to sell anything. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #56
geeez Cryptoad Jun 2015 #68
From Wikipedia....which part of this is wrong? And what, exactly, is the secret document that djean111 Jun 2015 #70
TPA passed, Nixon's legacy of evading the democratic process lives on, purple bipartisan fascism RiverLover Jun 2015 #26
The second graphic fails to include selling futures in projected cows. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #41
That's right. BlueEye Jun 2015 #51
Is see my future as a refugee from this awful place. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #27
I hear Vietnam is promising Renew Deal Jun 2015 #28
I am thinking nordic. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #31
Never miss a chance to bash the President. DCBob Jun 2015 #29
Damn BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #33
Thanks, Obama Thespian2 Jun 2015 #39
I think the person doing the alerts.... Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #40
Jewish or not, MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #45
I call my best friend Putz Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #47
Geez MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #58
Me too. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #75
Gee he waited until after he was voted back in the bring trade up Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #42
Sigh, that is so depressing. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #62
And if it had been Rmoney, the Democratic Party would still stand for workers, for people RiverLover Jun 2015 #72
So why is this trade deal a good thing? jalan48 Jun 2015 #43
there's a few people TheFarseer Jun 2015 #49
Surprisingly yes. Nt abelenkpe Jun 2015 #50
The guy on the left of the picture have a familiar cranium... BeanMusical Jun 2015 #53
But...but...but....I thought today's topic was RACISM and the Confederate flag ... nikto Jun 2015 #54
Your focus on economic issues suggests that you don't care about social justice issues. Vattel Jun 2015 #55
When will Sanders supporters finally agree that slavery should be illegal? MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #67
All kidding aside, Sanders' economic primacy message Vattel Jun 2015 #79
Funny link awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #65
K&R Scuba Jun 2015 #71
Some labor for a better world, some for Wall St. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #74
Heh! We royally fucked those whining pissant peasants, didn't we? Zorra Jun 2015 #77

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
44. that twirling sound is dems of old spinning in their graves. Bastards. imagine what HST and FDR
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:42 PM
Jun 2015

would say about this

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
78. free trader perhaps in the normal sense but not in the malignant sense that exists now.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jun 2015
 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
64. Nice!
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 11:04 PM
Jun 2015

Wish I still had my Adobe Creative Suite functioning on my laptop that needs upgrading. Need to buy a newer upgrade since the old one would only run under compatibility mode not supported in the newer OS's... Unfortunately can't qualify for a student discount any more though! One of many things I need to do to get caught up on things again.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
8. The Senate voted for cloture on the TPA bill
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jun 2015

Therefore Obama is going to cut Social Security.

It's true...I read it on DU.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
11. I didn't realize that was part of the bill
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jun 2015


So the Republicans voted for that?

Betcha Obama sends it back and makes them re-vote without that in there.
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
19. Rep. Conyers: Obama Demanded Social Security Cuts--Not GOP
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:13 PM
Jun 2015
Rep. Conyers: Obama Demanded Social Security Cuts--Not GOP

but they GOP has rebuffed him so far.

But now... all things are possible...
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
23. Now Obama is sick and wants to harm seniors....
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:25 PM
Jun 2015

but thankfully the GOP is saving seniors from the harm Obama is trying to inflict upon them.

Keep going!

You're on a roll!

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
60. Incredible the denial-bubble some folks live within, huh?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 10:54 PM
Jun 2015

"TPP must be OK because Obama supports it."


Real deep thinking.




I voted for Obama twice, but I can see the ugly reality that he enthusiastically supports something that will harm millions of Americans while enriching the top few percent.

And we end up arguing with fellow-Progressives who insist on looking thru rose-colored glasses,
because they just can't deal with being seriously wrong about Obama's pro-elite economic policy vision.

It's awful, isn't it?

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
80. Well for what it's worth, Obama offered it the republicans turned it down.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:51 PM
Jun 2015

so.... there is that.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
61. Well, Obama did cut Social Security.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 10:56 PM
Jun 2015

Oh wait ... that's just one of the predictions that have been wrong.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
76. That was his biggest error in my judgment, NEVER even remotely threaten soc sec, NEVER
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 12:49 PM
Jun 2015

randys1

(16,286 posts)
4. This thread is pretty ugly, but as a jury member I voted to leave it.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:29 PM
Jun 2015

And I also noticed that the two who voted to hide, neither put in an explanation.

There should be a rule that if you vote to hide you explain why

randys1

(16,286 posts)
9. But he has made a couple of bad moves so we just ignore the 291 accomplishments
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jun 2015

or good ones

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
48. Like this one?...
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:51 PM
Jun 2015


Hmm... I wonder how long that will last before a ISDS court will help TransCanada sue us for lost profits if we don't go ahead and install it? See how this works? That "accomplishment" was window dressing that is WORTHLESS now with what he just did that has TransCanada and companies laughing behind the scenes at the "fast one" Obama pulled on us to have us feel that he's on our side!

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
12. I hope those children are wealthy
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:36 PM
Jun 2015

Because if not, their futures may have been sold today for a bag of silver coins.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
14. Well - they are black
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:41 PM
Jun 2015

Our children have less of a chance Of surviving in this country. I look at that picture and think - George Zimmerman is still out there with a gun. One of those boys won't be alive in a few years. And the populist candidate voted against . . .

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
18. Who can argue that black families have made great strides under Obama?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:59 PM
Jun 2015

Other than, oh, respected economists:

http://stateofworkingamerica.org/fact-sheets/african-americans/

Populist candidate? The gun fetishizer who got a D- from the NRA?

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
34. How is the TPP and cutting Social Security going to change that?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:46 PM
Jun 2015

Seems to me it will only make the problem bigger and cause even more anger.

Why did Obama not fight as hard for gun control as he did for the TPP?...could it be the money was on the wrong side?

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
36. I hardly ever vote to hide
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:54 PM
Jun 2015

A lot of thin skinned people amongst us on DU. If I do vote to hide it's usually so blatant, no further explanation is needed.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
38. I don't feel that way personally.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:01 PM
Jun 2015

Usually, from my experience, it's either LEAVE because the alerter is either thin-skinned or vindictive, or HIDE, because the poster is either a troll, or just said something completely vile, or insensitive. Many of those need no justification for your vote, they are so blatant.

 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
10. no words....
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jun 2015

Honestly where is his MIND at... did he lose it somewhere between " Hope " and " Yes We can "


 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
16. What Changed ?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:46 PM
Jun 2015

I am not denying the good things he has done...but his insistence on heading our country down this path of corporate rule is NOT a small thing. I voted for him twice...in my heart i think he knows better...so all can do now is ask WHAT CHANGED ?

 

pocoloco

(3,180 posts)
35. No matter what he could possible do for the asshats,
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:49 PM
Jun 2015

they are not ever gonna let him fuck Geronimo's skull!

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
15. K&R
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:44 PM
Jun 2015

I think we can change the old quote to:
Yes, you can fool all of the people all of the time.
That is change without hope.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
20. The day democracy died.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:19 PM
Jun 2015

Thanks Obama.

You and Boener and McConnel have great night celebrating giving away our sovereignty.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
63. Don't you guys claim that happened every couple weeks?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 10:58 PM
Jun 2015

I mean, since the day Obama took office ... every few weeks ... OMG, Obama just destroyed America.

Its getting old.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
25. Funniest part of this is,,,,
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:34 PM
Jun 2015

the treaty has not even been negotiated yet, but there seems to a large group of people who must be seers and know what ii contains....... LOL

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
30. Its sad you aren't aware that TPA passed. Not TPP Its used to avoid our Democratic Process. First
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:42 PM
Jun 2015

implemented by Nixon when he wanted to shove through a really bad trade deal. Many trade deals have gone through congress without it, because they didn't suck for Americans. NAFTA, for example, did suck & needed TPA to pass through congress. Obama waited until he had his Republican majority before even attempting TPA for his corporate TPP, which we'll be able to see now, but not make any changes to before it goes for an up or down vote.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
32. We believe the people who have seen it, and the leaks.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:44 PM
Jun 2015

Oh, and the treaty has been negotiated. They have been negotiating for some time. The Fast Track is wanted by Obama right fucking now so that the TPP can be slid right through Congress, no changes.

Are you really trying to sell that, that the TPP has not been negotiated yet? Or do you not understand what Fast Track is for? It is not so negotiations can start. That part has been done, by the corporations, mostly. It is so the finished agreement can be K_Y Jellied right past our system of government checks and balances.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
68. geeez
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:13 AM
Jun 2015

many of the major countries refused to negotiate until fast track is approved..... only the process of negotiation has been defined,,,,,,

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
70. From Wikipedia....which part of this is wrong? And what, exactly, is the secret document that
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:30 AM
Jun 2015

Congress is allowed to look at, but not take notes on? You are saying that the TPP will not include the leaked parts we have seen? That the TPP is just now starting to be negotiated? That those in Europe concerned about the TTIP are also upset about a non-existent agreement? That folks in other TPP countries who are objecting to this are delusional Obama-haters?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

The proposed agreement began in 2005 as the Trans-Pacific Strategic Economic Partnership Agreement (TPSEP or P4). Participating countries set the goal of wrapping up negotiations in 2012, but contentious issues such as agriculture, intellectual property, and services and investments have caused negotiations to continue into the present,[7] with the last round meeting in Ottawa from 3–12 July 2014.[8][9] Implementation of the TPP is one of the primary goals of the trade agenda of the Obama administration in the United States of America.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
26. TPA passed, Nixon's legacy of evading the democratic process lives on, purple bipartisan fascism
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:36 PM
Jun 2015

We're living in a Purple Plutocracy, such a lovely fascist state.

By the Corporations, For the Corporations.





BlueEye

(449 posts)
51. That's right.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 10:08 PM
Jun 2015

And when you default on the Milk Backed Securities (MBS) for your seven cows held in escrow, the bought-and-paid-for U.S. government will bail you out by taking an equity stake in your dairy farm so that you may continue to reap huge bonuses while everyone else suffers. After the government sells you your eight cows back, you can successfully sue the taxpayer for "milk" gotten gains.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
29. Never miss a chance to bash the President.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:42 PM
Jun 2015

All he did is try to get something every President has had since FDR.

Omaha Steve

(109,234 posts)
42. Gee he waited until after he was voted back in the bring trade up
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:25 PM
Jun 2015

How is this trade deal better than what R money would have done?

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
72. And if it had been Rmoney, the Democratic Party would still stand for workers, for people
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:55 AM
Jun 2015

This is going to turn a whole large segment of the Democratic base off.

Who is representing US now? No one, except for a few who are outnumbered.

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
43. So why is this trade deal a good thing?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:34 PM
Jun 2015

Is there anyone on here that agrees with Obama on it?

TheFarseer

(9,770 posts)
49. there's a few people
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:54 PM
Jun 2015

They say we can't just close off to the world or it's going to happen anyway or some such nonsense. I'm pretty sure we trade with Japan and S Korea though already. Just look at half the cars on the road for proof. I seriously wonder what their motives are.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
54. But...but...but....I thought today's topic was RACISM and the Confederate flag ...
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 10:25 PM
Jun 2015
While we (led by our mass-media) were all talking about the confederate flag, TPP just got fast-tracked.






Was that intentional, or what?
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
67. When will Sanders supporters finally agree that slavery should be illegal?
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:42 AM
Jun 2015

Last edited Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:59 AM - Edit history (1)

I think they're too invested in their slavemaster privilege to ever come around.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
79. All kidding aside, Sanders' economic primacy message
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:50 PM
Jun 2015

ignores the concerns of POC, LGBTs and women. Regrettably he has been suggesting that POC, women, LGBTs, and immigrants are dividing us, and that their issues are divisive and so should be set aside in favor of the economic issues that can unite all but the 1%. He is blind to the fact that no economic progress can be made without first addressing issues of racism and sexism. Yes, his record on those issues is stellar, and he has consistently spoke about those issues, but that's the problem: he needs to speak TO these communities and not just ABOUT them. It is hard to avoid the conclusion that he sees POC and women through the lens of white privilege and male privilege, and that is why he has been downplaying their concerns. Clinton has evolved on these issues and so enjoys greater support among minority communities and women. Bernie appears to be stuck in the past, too sheltered perhaps in his nearly all-white state of Vermont. That being said, I should point out that I am a Bernie supporter.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
74. Some labor for a better world, some for Wall St.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:36 AM
Jun 2015

The more one works and invests in one, the less care the other receives. For every action, there is a reaction.

Thanks to science, we know that increased action today means immeasurable amounts of suffering being heaped on the next generations. For as long as they can hold out, and as long as they want to, in a world devoid of so many things "corporate liberals" pay lip service too today, like caring about the hungry or the natural world. They will claim to really love and care for animals, but just like Republicans and our own children, only when they are babies and only in cutest of staged photos.

All that corporate money flowing so freely through the hands of our elected officials. It is how they are able to build coalitions against change, against progress, all that sweet Wall St money. It is how they so generously fund think tanks, it is how they fund racists, it is how they start wars for cash against the worlds poorest in all our names.

This is just another evolutionary step in our ever rightward shift. It is why today, Ronald Reagan and his backers would be so overjoyed to see the culmination of all their dreams in the hands of our "corporate liberal" President.

Today is a beautiful day in the memory and honor of Milton Friedman, Alan Greenspan and those who hold so much more in common with them, than they do with the commons.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
77. Heh! We royally fucked those whining pissant peasants, didn't we?
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:08 PM
Jun 2015

I love Americans; everyone of sufficient means should own at least one, don't you think?

To fascism!




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