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Hillary Rodham Clinton is facing backlash for saying that all lives matter in an African-American church in Missouri on Tuesday, offending some who feel that she is missing the point of the black lives matter mantra. Mrs. Clintons remarks at Christ the King United Church of Christ in Florissant, Mo. only a few miles north of Ferguson, where a black teenager was shot by a white police officer last August came during a broader discussion of civil rights in America. She was talking about how a disproportionate number of young people of color are out of school and out of work and, explaining that everyone needs a chance and a champion, she recalled how her mother was abandoned as a teenager and went on to work as a maid. What kept you going? Mrs. Clinton remembered asking her mother. Her answer was very simple. Kindness along the way from someone who believed she mattered. All lives matter. The remark caused a stir on social media, with some African-Americans on Twitter suggesting that Mrs. Clinton had lost their votes.
Hillary Clinton, in a Black church, just said "All lives matter." Fam...
3:56 PM - 23 Jun 2015
The Rev. Renita Lamkin, who was in the audience at the event, told NPR that Mrs. Clintons comment did not go unnoticed. That blew a lot of support that she may have been able to engender here, she said. The phrase black lives matter has become a rallying cry in the last year for demonstrators amid a spate of episodes around the country, including the 18-year-old Michael Browns death in the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson, where white police officers have been accused of using excessive force against black suspects. Judith Butler, a professor at University of California, Berkley, summed up the frustration with the use of all lives matter in The Times in January.
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http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/06/24/hillary-clintons-all-lives-matter-remark-stirs-backlash/
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)with the black community. I wonder if she even knows Glenn Beck was there not too long ago saying the exact same words!?
Seriously, her campaign manager must be really dense.
Segami
(14,923 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)the way Bernie does, naturally, without having to read from prepared statements.
CanadaexPat
(496 posts)And will have unforced errors over and over.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the country to protest the unprecedented murder of young African American men by cops, who then never pay any price. 'Black Lives Matter' has meaning. We know all lives matter, but all lives are not threatened the way African American lives are, by those who are supposed to protect them!
Too busy to notice the growing movement apparently. She should go to some of the protests and see how the protesters are being treated. Shameful, I guess they thought that after Ferguson this would just go away.
The MEDIA went away. Politicians need to stop using the Corporate media for news, they will not know what is going on around the country that way.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)The movement that was sparked by the murder of Michael Brown is certainly something a Dem candidate should have been very interested in. The Corp media isn't covering it much, if at all, but who gets their information from them?
What her use of the phrase showed was that she was not even aware of this now National Movement 'Black Lives Matter; and had no idea why the other phrase 'All Lives Matter' would be so offensive to African Americans.
That phrase has been used as a push back against Black Lives Matter. When used against Black Lives Matter it is rarely coming from someone who is a friend to the AA community. I am surprised that here on DU even, there are people who have no idea why it is so offensive.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Given the reasons why Black Lives Matter was started.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Jeez they were both born in the 40's LOL
Time for new blood! NO BUSH NO CLINTON!
GO MARTIN! (who was born in the 60's just FYI )
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Romeo.lima333
(1,127 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)When discussing sexism, you often hear "Well, men are oppressed too." That is perfectly true. It is the context which determines whether the statement is part of a real discussion or just a diversion.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:30 PM - Edit history (1)
She dismissed it from her position of white privilege.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)without even realizing she's doing it.
still_one
(92,060 posts)cancer, the haters would still find something wrong with it
Autumn
(44,972 posts)police violence.
Igel
(35,270 posts)responsive to the emotional needs of those church goers in 2015.
She must have been a truly horrible person to fail to understand this 50 years go.
Or perhaps HRC should have lied. "What kept my mother going? The idea that black lives matter." Incongruous and anachronistic that such an utterance might be, at this point the incongruity and anachronism wouldn't even be noticed.
TM99
(8,352 posts)didn't even need to add an anecdote about her white mother when she was at a black church to supposedly support black lives that matter.
This is the HRC I remember from 2008 and before.
We have been lectured here that Clinton has the POC vote in the bag. She is as tone deaf as ever.
dsc
(52,147 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)She is a narcissist who only cares about herself.
I thought she was there to support, you know, black folks.
I did not know she was there to talk about her damned mother.
dsc
(52,147 posts)good luck with that.
TM99
(8,352 posts)There is a time and a fucking place to talk about your family.
It just may not be during a speech at a black church to support #blacklivesmatter!
dsc
(52,147 posts)and another for Hilary in your world. The fact is if Hilary were to walk on water you would claim it was because she couldn't swim.
TM99
(8,352 posts)But now that you have, let's go then.
Sanders has been ripped for not saying enough during particular speeches even though he has a stellar history of civil rights support. He has been lambasted for poor optics at his Vermont kick off because there were not enough POC in the audience when he had little to no control over it.
Clinton fucked up here big time. She used the phrase "All Lives Matter". She did not have to use that phrase. She did not have to tell a story about her mother in this speech in order to use that phrase. She was there supposedly to talk about police violence against blacks. Was this another dog whistle like 2008? Was it just another narcissistic tone deaf Clinton moment? Who knows for sure. But it is important and she deserves the criticism she is getting.
Now read these and get back to me when you get a fucking clue!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-dan-schatz/on-being-asked-to-change-_b_6326614.html
https://storify.com/the_author_/why-all-lives-matter-is-an-inappropriate-response
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/01/12/whats-wrong-with-all-lives-matter/
dsc
(52,147 posts)despite his name being at the bottom of all your posts. Sure and I am Brad Pitt's twin.
TM99
(8,352 posts)the issue I just provided links for you to learn about.
Instead you make it about poor Hillary.
I don't have to elevate Sanders above Clinton. Her words and actions are her own as this fuck up aptly demonstrates.
So do you want to address the crux of the matter which is police violence and black lives that matter? Or do you just want to defend your candidate?
dsc
(52,147 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)you will selectively ignore the words that were poorly chosen in order to blindly support your chosen candidate.
dsc
(52,147 posts)something you apparently can't do even when they are words on DU.
TM99
(8,352 posts)You have obviously revealed yourself for the person you truly are.
Segami
(14,923 posts)as to make people honestly believe that she could walk on water just like Jesus..
You know,.....something like dodging bullets under fire...
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)It was kind of like she was saying "like many of you, my mom worked as a maid." It's almost as bad as the "dead broke" comment in showing a disconnect from people outside of her personal and professional life.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)is near Ferguson MO. She goes to a black church and while talking about her mother she utters the words "All lives matter." So what was the context? Was she there in that black church because she wanted to address the problems in Ferguson MO or not?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)with terrible instincts.
How this happens is beyond me.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)#HillaryClinton was telling a story about her mother, she's also said "we can stand up together & say 'yes Black lives matter.' Stop hating!
Metric System
(6,048 posts)emulatorloo
(44,057 posts)And DU bullshitters and resident pot-stirers lick their chops and fan the flames.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)What happened ???
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It's pretty tough being tone deaf and living in a bubble surrounded by wall st CEOs.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)Transcript of Hillary's speech from Launch
http://time.com/3920332/transcript-full-text-hillary-clinton-campaign-launch/
"Her own parents abandoned her, and by 14 she was out on her own, working as a housemaid. Years later, when I was old enough to understand, I asked what kept her going.
You know what her answer was? Something very simple: Kindness from someone who believed she mattered."
still_one
(92,060 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Plus, it's a little hard to dismiss the responses from those who were there when she said it. Or is it when it's politically expedient?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)one can clearly tell ... They would be the one's salivating.
TM99
(8,352 posts)Y'all are acting like her speech writers couldn't have possibly have known that using the phrase all lives matter especially in conjunction with black lives matter is an issue.
Was she there to talk about universal rights and the sanctity of all lives? Or was she there to address police violence and in particular black lives?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:55 PM - Edit history (2)
HILLARY CLINTON: The truth is equality, opportunity, civil rights in America are still far from where they need to be. Our schools are still segregated. In fact more segregated than they were in the 1960s. Nearly 6 million young Americans between the ages of 16 and 24 are out of school and out of work. Think of that. Neither learning nor working. And the numbers are particularly high for young people of color. Statistics like these are rebukes to the real progress we have made. And they pose an urgent call for us to act publicly, politically, and personally.
We should start by giving all of our children the tools and opportunities to overcome legacies of discrimination to live up to their own God-given potentials. I just saw some of the young people attending camp here at church down in the basement. And I was thrilled to see that because that is the kind of commitment we need more of, in every church, in every place, until every child is reached. And I hope we can take that as a cause for action.
I learned this not from politics but from my mother who taught me that everybody, everybody needs a chance and a champion. She knew what it was like to have neither one. Her own parents abandoned her. By 14, she was out on her own working as a house maid. Years later when I was old enough to understand, I asked her. What kept you going? Her answer was very simple. Kindness along the way from someone who believed she mattered. All lives matter.
ann---
(1,933 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I got not answer.
I think understanding how speeches are developed, how they get shaped to deal with current events, how much of the speech is the politician's general them and concepts and how much it is a collective effort by different types of staff to flesh out the details is important to really understanding campaign rhetoric
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)people when black people get killed by cops more with no repercussions.
rock
(13,218 posts)Does not conflict with "Black lives matter" but does conflict with "Only Black lives matter", which I do not think is meant.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)@BlackGirlDanger SHE FUCKING DID NOT. Oh god are you serious?
@Awkward_Duck @yoauntielikeit What the actual fucking fuck.
@KiyoDandre @YungSapGawd @yoauntielikeit she hasn't forgotten she has to get "all" votes. Pandering Hillary strikes again
I wish we could just skip the election. RT @yoauntielikeit: Hillary Clinton, in a Black church, just said "All lives matter." Fam
@Carnegro @yoauntielikeit @fmason3 she. ain't. getting. my. damn. vote. ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuucccccckkk. that. shit
If she didn't get a "no" from me before, she sure does now. "@yoauntielikeit Hillary, in a Black church, said "All lives matter." Fam
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@yoauntielikeit @vivian_games Well she just locked down the racist white people who think they aren't racist vote.
@yoauntielikeit well there goes my hope for her.
@yoauntielikeit which is why she won't get my vote.
@yoauntielikeit pic.twitter.com/z1In6glm0M
Hillary: All lives matter. Me: From the wife of the man who said he remembered when our president would be serving coffee to him.
Hillary Clinton just said "All Lives Matter." Girl BYE. If you can't just say Black Lives Matter, then keep us out of your mouth altogether.
Hillary Clinton really and truly said "All lives Matter" OMG SHE HAS TO BE ONE OF THE DUMBEST POLITICIANS THIS NATION HAS EVER PRODUCED
*Sigh*. Y'all, we've just been "All Lives Matter"'d by Hillary Clinton.
Not ready for Hillary. Never gonna be ready. Ever.
@BlackGirlDanger For once. Just once. I wish I could be surprised by the fuck shit that comes from her camp. Just. Once.
All lives matter? Hillary
sit down now. You're embarrassing us. #BlackLivesMatter pic.twitter.com/IawPcGo7gO
Hillary Clinton said All Lives Matter. bye.
TM99
(8,352 posts)all of that POC support that we have been told here recently she had the lock on.
If she still wins the primary, I stand by my prediction that she will lose the general.
This is some serious social media backlash.
ann---
(1,933 posts)It's the truth. All lives DO matter and no race should
matter more than another. I believe that's what she meant.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)CTBlueboy
(154 posts)Do you not think HRC use of #alllivesmatter is an issue ?
#alllivesmatter is a conservative reaction to the protests
You may not think it's an issues,but I do as Young African American who is fed up with the corrupt system!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)She should have known that is the respose we have been getting the entire time we have been saying "black lives matter'. If all lives mattered we wouldn't need to keep screaming 'black lives matter'. I swear she does this stuff on purpose. I refuse to believe she is stupid.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)It is as if she misses the whole point. There is nothing wrong, in another context, of affirming that all lives matter. But in the current environment the bare fact is that white lives matter, but black lives not so much. That's the issue. By saying all lives matter, she's diminishing the important message.
It's a political gaffe and Hillary appears to be prone to them.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)You can now be castigated for saying "All live matter"?
Strange times we live in.
tblue37
(65,212 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)I thought that all lives matter. Sorry, maybe Hillary didn't get the memo that some lives matter more than others.
The nitpicking will continue until election day, carry on......
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)that all black lives matter and they wanted her to say 'all lives matter'!
Sheesh, what did Mrs. Clinton say honestly? I did not see that clip, that's why am curious.
Help me out here please!
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)(15:14 for "all lives matter" :
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Completely taken out of context. Truly pathetic and Gowdy worthy.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Hillary doesn't "get it".
She is glossing over
institutional racism.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Here is what you are fighting against. You clearly haven't read it.
Thank you. Thank you so much, Pastor Traci. Thank you for welcoming me to your church, this community, and with such powerful words.
I am here to listen but also to engage in the kind of open and honest discussion that I hope is happening all across America this week.
Last week, just a few hours before the massacre at Mother Emanuel AME Church during Wednesday night Bible Study, I was in Charleston visiting a technical school, meeting students black, white, Hispanic who were pursuing paid internships, and learning skills that will prepare them for the jobs of the future. I heard their stories, I shook their hands, I looked into their eyes, and I saw the hope and the pride that comes from doing work that is meaningful, learning, feeling that you matter, and that there will be a place for you.
Thats the basic bargain of our country. And these young men and a few young women were doing their part.
That night, word of the killings struck like a blow to the soul. How do we make sense of such an evil act, an act of racist terrorism perpetrated in a house of God? How do we turn grief, anger, and despair into purpose and action?
Those of us who are Christians are challenged by Jesus Christ to forgive seventy times seven a daunting, even impossible task for most of us.
But then we have seen that scriptural admonition in action.
Isnt it amazing, remarkable even, when fear, doubt, desire for revenge might have been expected, but instead forgiveness is found? Although a fundamental part of our doctrine, its practice is the most difficult thing we are ever called to do.
But, thats what we saw on Friday, when one by one, grieving parents, siblings and other family members looked at that young man who had taken so much from them and said: I forgive you.
Wanda Simmons, the granddaughter of Reverend Daniel Simmons, said, Although my grandfather and the other victims died at the hands of hate, this is proof, everyones plea for your soul, she said to the killer, is proof that they lived in love so hate wont win.
Their act of mercy was as stunning as his act of cruelty.
Hate cannot win. There is no future without forgiveness, Archbishop Desmond Tutu taught us, and forgiveness is the first step toward victory in any journey.
I know its tempting to dismiss a tragedy like this as an isolated incident, to believe that in todays America, bigotry is largely behind us, that institutionalized racism no longer exists.
But despite our best efforts and our highest hopes, Americas long struggle with race is far from finished.
We cant hide from hard truths about race and justice. We have to name them and own them and change them.
Thats why I appreciate the actions begun yesterday by the Governor and other leaders of South Carolina to remove the Confederate battle flag from the State House recognizing it as a symbol of our nations racist past that has no place in our present or our future. It shouldnt fly there, it shouldnt fly anywhere.
And I also commend Walmart for deciding to remove any product that uses it. Today, Amazon, eBay, and Sears have followed suite, and I urge all sellers to do the very same.
But you know and I know thats just the beginning of what we have to do.
The truth is, equality, opportunity, civil rights in America are still far from where they need to be. Our schools are still segregated in fact, more segregated than they were in the 1960s.
Nearly 6 million young Americans between the ages of 16 and 24 are out of school and out of work. Think of that: neither learning nor working. And the numbers are particularly high for young people of color.
Statistics like these are rebukes to the real progress we have made and they pose an urgent call for us to act publically, politically, and personally.
We should start by giving all of our children the tools and opportunities to overcome legacies of discrimination, to live up to their own God-given potentials.
I just saw some of the young people attending camp here at the church down in the basement, and I was thrilled to see that, because that is the kind of commitment we need more of in every church, in every place, until every child is reached. And I hope we can take that as a cause for action.
I learned this not from politics but from my mother, who taught me that everybody everybody needs a chance and a champion. She knew what it was like to have neither one.
Her own parents abandoned her. By 14 she was out on her own, working as a housemaid. Years later, when I was old enough to understand, I asked her, What kept you going? Her answer was very simple: Kindness along the way from someone who believed she mattered. All lives matter.
And for her it was the first grade teacher who saw she had nothing to eat at lunch and, without embarrassing her, brought extra food to share. It was the woman whose house she cleaned, who agreed to let her go to high school so long as her work got done.
Because those people believed in her, gave her a chance, she believed in me. And she taught me to believe in the potential of every American.
That inspired me to go work for the Childrens Defense Fund after law school. It inspired my work for the Legal Services Corporation, where I defended the rights of poor people to have lawyers. I saw lives changed because an abusive marriage ended or an illegal eviction stopped.
In Arkansas, at the law school there, I supervised law students who represented clients in courts and prisons, organized college scholarship funds for single parents, led efforts for better schools and better health care.
So, I know I know what personal kindness, political commitments, and public programs can do to help those who are trying their best to get ahead.
Thats why we need to build an economy for tomorrow, not yesterday.
You dont have to look far from this sanctuary to see why that need is so urgent. But you also dont have to look far to see that talent and potential is all right here, if only we can unleash it.
I believe that talent is universal but opportunity is not. We need to rebuild the American Opportunity Society for the 21st century.
And you might ask, how do we do that?
Well, first, start looking at the faces and the energy of the young people I just saw downstairs. We have to start early, make sure every 4-year-old in America has access to high-quality preschool. Because those early years are when young brains develop, and the right foundation can lead to lifelong success.
Now, Im not saying this just because Im not a grandmother of the most amazing, brilliant, extraordinary 9-month-old in history of the world. Im saying this because, again, I know what the evidence is. I know that 80 percent of your brain is developed by the age of 3.
So we have to do more. And when I say we, I mean churches and houses of worship, I mean businesses, I mean charities, I mean local governments. All of us have to do more to help families be their childs first teachers from zero to 5.
You know, when I was First Lady of Arkansas, I struggled with this issue. We had a lot of kids, poor kids in the delta and south Arkansas and up in the mountains. And we were not going to be able to afford at that point all those years ago a universal pre-k program. We had to do more but we were never going to do enough.
So I looked for programs that people could run themselves. And I found a program in Israel, a program designed to help the children of immigrants into Israel, particularly from Ethiopia, who came with their parents seeking religious freedom. They were Ethiopian Jews. They had to escape. But many of them had never been to school.
And the secret to the program called the Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youngsters, was to teach the mother to teach her child.
We need to do more of that, and I call on all of us to find ways to reach into those families, and then as our kids grow up, theyre going to need not only a good education to prepare them but the skills for tomorrows jobs.
We need tax credits for businesses that invest in apprenticeships, particularly providing opportunities to economically disadvantaged young people.
In order to create those new jobs, we have to attract investment into communities too often ignored or written off. Whether you live in Ferguson or West Baltimore, in Coal Country or Indian Country, you should have the same chance as any American anywhere to get ahead and stay ahead.
We should reauthorize the New Markets Tax Credit, which has encouraged billions of dollars in private funding for community development and small businesses in low-income, low-investment areas. It should be permanent.
A lot of the new jobs are going to come from small businesses. And we know that women and people of color face extra hurdles becoming entrepreneurs. Its harder to find the support networks, its harder to get that loan.
So weve got to do more to knock down the barriers so every good idea that anybody has will get a fair hearing, and a chance to create a new business, to employ people and raise their incomes.
We must do all we can to be sure our communities respect law enforcement and that law enforcement respects the communities they serve.
And we need to come together for common sense gun reforms that keep our communities safe.
The key to all of this is revitalizing our democracy, and finally persuading the 50 million Americans who do not vote that by not voting they make it possible for people who do not agree with them, do not support their aspirations to call the shots.
Earlier this month, I went to Texas Southern University to speak out against systematic efforts to disempower and disenfranchise young people, poor people, people of color, and the elderly.
We need early voting in every state, and automatic, universal voter registration.
I think every young American when they turn 18 should be universally, automatically registered unless they say no.
Now, if we re-stitch the fraying fabric of our communities, we will only do so if all Americans do their part.
I grew up in the Methodist Church. My mother taught Sunday school, and made sure part of the reason she taught Sunday school is to keep an eye on my brothers who were supposed to be in Sunday school but you never knew. But she was there to make sure that they showed up in their classes.
But she also made sure we heard the wisdom of John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, to Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, in all the ways you can, in all the places you can, at all the times you can, to all the people you can, as long as ever you can.
And that meant more than prayer. It meant we had to step out of the church, roll up our sleeves and get to work.
I was blessed with a wonderful youth minister who took some of us into Chicago to hear Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. speak. I grew up in an all-white, middle-class suburb. I didnt have a black friend, neighbor or classmate until I went to college. And I am so blessed to have had so many in my life since. But I leapt at the chance to hear Dr. Kings words with my own ears.
The sermon that evening was titled Remaining Awake Through a Revolution. Dr. King challenged us to stay engaged in the cause of justice, not to slumber while the world changed around us.
I think thats good advice for all of us today. We should all commit to stay awake and stay active, to do our part, in our families, our businesses, unions, houses of worship, schools, and yes, in the voting booth.
Never stop working for a stronger, more prosperous, more just, more inclusive America.
Government has a big part of the responsibility to promote growth, fairness and justice, but so do all of us.
So in quiet moments in the days ahead, in honest conversations, lets talk about what each of us can and should do. Because ultimately, this is really all about the habits of our hearts, how we treat each other, how we learn to see the humanity in those around us, and how we teach our children to see that humanity, too.
And we dont have to look far for examples. Those nine righteous men and women who invited a stranger into their midst, to study the bible with them, somehow who did not look like them, someone they had never seen before.
Their example and their memory show us the way. Their families, their church does as well.
So let us be resolved to make sure they did not die in vain.
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Thank you and God bless you.
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SidDithers
(44,228 posts)KEEP trying.
Sid
No matter the context it was just a stupid thing to say, especially considering that she was speaking to a black church.
Searching through tweets, I can see that black twitter is on it. Also a lot of white conservatives continuing to be clueless.
Check it out
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)"All lives matter"...
unless you live in the middle east
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tim-Wise/140254320968
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)In terms of police conduct, only black lives matter. The police are more afraid of young black men than anyone else, and police treatment of young black men is an important indicator of the direction of your city police department or county sheriff. This is the same principal the ACLU embraces when it defends neo-Nazis and various other "undesirables." If the government fails to protect a particular group or class of people, they'll eventually get around to you.
I don't know if the phrase "Black lives matter" applies as much to the church shootings, even though the gunman was racially motivated. We have seen so many other mass shootings, and they didn't involve race hatred.
I understand why people respond with "All lives matter," but it's not appropriate. "Black lives matter" is important to keep a focus on police reforms, and the "All lives matter" response represents the problem inaccurately.
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