Why does Team Hillary ALWAYS take the low road

[virtualobserver]

When asked about concern at Team Clinton about Sanders' surge, McCaskill responds:


"No, I think the media is giving Bernie a pass right now.
I very rarely read in any coverage of Bernie that he's a socialist."

She is using the term "Socialist" in the same manner as the right wing.......as a slur.

Reminds me of her campaign against President Obama.

[BeyondGeography]

1. It's called politics

Fight back. Ask her what established forms of socialism she's against in this country, e.g. Here's a good list:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America#

[rufus dog]

2. i think you are helping th OP make the point

Which was why take the low road. Why promote the repub point of view and ask Sanders to defend it? Why not take the high road and promote the positive?

[fadedrose]

149. 75 is right

Looked up the link, didn't thoroughly read it, but I was doubtful that there were so many socialistic programs in the US already.

Thanks for posting.

[virtualobserver]

3. it gets even worse from McCaskill

"Rand Paul's father, Ron Paul, got massive crowds. Pat Buchanan got massive crowds. It's not unusual for someone who has an extreme message to have a following."

Who needs Republicans when Democrats label Bernie's message is extreme.

[truebrit71]

66. Yup. McCaskill can go pound sand with rhetoric like that...

Fucking DINO...

[erronis]

78. And this person will be high up in Hillary's administration

So if we don't like him now, we will be even more upset when/if she wins.

With this message, I'll be changing my tagline to "Liberal, Progressive, Socialist, and intelligent" or some such. We need to get these terms out from under the slime mass that the repug PR machine has generated.

[frylock]

82. yeah, equating Sanders' popularity to Ron Paul's ran it's course here on DU..

this would appear to confirm that it's a talking point that originated from the Clinton camp.

[virtualobserver]

91. as his numbers inch ever upward

their panic will grow.

They have been through this before, and they didn't like it.

They will soon be shouting the S-word from the rooftops.

[frylock]

92. Clinton's internal polling is spurring this, I'm sure.

[RoccoR5955]

126. Wait till the PUMAs come out of hiding. n/t

[MisterP]

119. 2015: too many crowds = unrepresentative exremism

2016: too high turnout = erosion of democracy

[virtualobserver]

121. Bernie is probably organizing mobs to enforce his extreme views

when his mob is large enough, there is a danger that he might take over this county through democratic means

[Sheepshank]

4. "always"...in caps none the less

haa haa haa

[virtualobserver]

5. I keep hoping she won't, but she ALWAYS does......

the minute that she senses DANGER.

[Sheepshank]

7. McCaskill was the one talking according to your post

...but Clinton "ALWAYS"? yeah, whatev.

btw. do you have a link?

[Robbins]

9. She's surrogate for her campaign

She was sent to bash Bernie.it's 2007/2008 all over again.

[virtualobserver]

11. she is a Clinton surrogate

and these are talking points

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/mccaskill--bernie-is-too-liberal-to-win-471130691652

[Sheepshank]

18. ahhhh...so every "surrogate" every single time

and ALWAYS said exactly what the candidate intends and an the tone and manner the candidate intended. Got it. ALWAYS.

I think I will wait to hear this directly from Clinton, thanks.

[frylock]

83. Clinton doesn't say much, so don't hold your breath.

[Sheepshank]

95. old, used up talking point. But it suits the narrative for some.

[frylock]

134. It suits the reality..

I encourage Clinton to speak out more often. It's not going to happen though, because it's too much of a liability.

[7962]

99. Unless the clinton campaign dismisses the comment, its accepted by them.

Thats how politics works. How many times have we seen a comment or act by someone on the right and then the party say "that doesnt represent us/me"? Same thing here.

[Sheepshank]

103. ohhh, no that's not how it works.

McCaskill is not on Clinton's payroll. Clinton is not running against McCaskill for any office. Why should Clinton infringe on her 1st A opinions. Is Bernie setting everyone straight when they talk about his racism? No...that's not how it works.

[7962]

106. Bernie's racism? Good lord.

[Sheepshank]

110. it was bullshit...right?

so why didn't he dignify the idiots with a response?
My thoughts are he doesn't want to feed the idiocy.

So why is Hillary being required to respond to this idiocy too?
I was being told that her silence is agreement.

I simply tried to raise a similar situation when silence on a matter does NOT in any way shape or form imply agreement.

[7962]

114. No, I meant that I'd missed that one. i thought you were kidding!! That happened?

I dont follow everything all the time, so i guess i missed that story!

[hedda_foil]

118. Did you intend for this post to be unintelligible?

Because it is. Maybe you're overtired and need a nap.

[Sheepshank]

122. perhpas its the reading comprehension that is the issue?

maybe glasses will help, or access to a good teacher?

[hedda_foil]

124. Nah, it's the writer's writing. nt

[awoke_in_2003]

136. Plausible deniability

the 08 primaries all over again

[SCantiGOP]

64. OP reminds me of campaign against Obama

[QC]

6. That's what conservatives do. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. 77% of sitting Democratic senators have endorsed HRC. Is she responsible for everything they say?

She's not their mom!

[virtualobserver]

12. no, she's a Clinton surrogate, doin' the talk show rounds

and saying that Bernie is "too liberal"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. I separate myself from her comments but I don't separate that she is responsible...

I separate myself from her comments but I don't separate myself from the observation that HRC is not responsible for everything her supporters say.

[jtuck004]

70. Exactly. Just like 100% of Lemmings endorse the cliff they jump off of, it's not

someone else's responsibility when they leap to their death.

That is their personal responsibility.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

80. I wish I was vain enough to dismiss everybody who disagrees with me as a nincompoop.

My parents should have done a better job at raising my self esteem and self confidence.

[jtuck004]

129. Well, those are your words and thoughts, and I presume you have a reason. Not my meaning

but if it comforts you, so be it.

I suspect your vainometer is broken, however.

[Hekate]

10. They don't.In this case, the media IS giving Bernie a pass.The moment he's the frontrunner the media

...will do to nice old avuncular Bernie exactly what they have been doing to Hillary all along.

[aspirant]

112. So you think Bernie is

a nice OLD uncle?

[Hekate]

127. figure of speech, as I'm sure you know. What I know about you is that you will bop around...

....any thread tossing off insulting one-liners as though you think they are sophisticated bon mots. Keep trying.

[aspirant]

131. "I'm sure you know"

How do you know what I think?

Can you predict the future too?

Is calling someone an "old uncle" a "insulting" "figure of speech"?

Do you "bop around" too or stay on the same thread for a week?

[backscatter712]

13. Shit like this is why Team Hillary lost in 2008.

She played dirty against Obama, playing the Muslim card, and had the Jeremiah Wright "God damn America!" tape loop playing on cable news 24/7, and came out of that race wondering why so many Democrats turned against her and distrusted her.

[Marr]

24. +1, yep. It's very weird. I usually want to see both sides as

more or less equal when it comes to things like this, but there is already a distinctive flavor to the comments of Hillary's surrogates and supporters-- and it's identical to 2008's.

[HooptieWagon]

26. Exactly.

And she'll do it again. It's all she knows...unable to learn from mistakes.

[dsc]

14. So is Bernie responsible for everything Cornell West has said or will say?

or does that only work if the candidate doesn't have a penis.

[PeaceNikki]

15. Heh

[virtualobserver]

19. he is not a surrogate for Bernie's campaign n/t

[dsc]

25. why is she one if he isn't

She isn't employed by the campaign she has merely endorsed her, just like West did him.

[virtualobserver]

28. get back with me when Cornell West does the news show circuit spouting Team Bernie talking points.

...then we'll talk.

[dsc]

34. my point is how do you know they are team Clinton talking points?

You're saying she supports Clinton, she says x, x are Clinton talking points. Why can't we say West supports Sanders, West says y, y are Sanders talking points? Either candidates are to blame for what people who endorse them say or they are not to blame for what people who endorse them say. I think the candidate is responsible for what the candidate says. You seem to think if the candidate has a penis then they are not responsible for what their endorsers say but if the candidate lacks a penis then she is.

[virtualobserver]

38. Because this ain't my first time at the Rodeo

When a sitting Democratic Senator goes on major news talk programs as a supporter of a candidate, they do not go off-message.

[frylock]

86. I'm sure it's merely a coincidence that the exact talking point wormed it's way through DU this week

[Aerows]

143. And here come the accusations

of sexism.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. I am sure FOX will have Corny West on to crap on the president...

Google Cornel West/Sean Hannity


What FOX host said "we love Bernie" ?

Sean Hannity
Megyn Kelley
Bill O'Reilly
Greta Van Susteren

[virtualobserver]

41. so not only is he "too liberal"....

as Claire McCaskill stated....

He is also loved by Fox News.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. You are confused

Corny crapped on the pres and has been a guest on Hannity. Billo said "we love Bernie."

[virtualobserver]

45. What part of what I said was untrue? n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. I didn't say you were being untruthful. I said you were confused. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Corny called the pres the n word and an emasculated man and has been a guest on Hannity. Billo said "we love Bernie".

[virtualobserver]

57. speaking the truth is not usually described as an attribute of "confusion"

Cornell West can defend himself.

He started out as a big supporter of Obama, and he had high expectations.

When I have lived his life, I will judge his words. His feelings are his own,
but one thing that I do know, he was not cynically trying to win votes
with his words

[DemocratSinceBirth]

58. I didn't live Dylann Roof's life but I can dismiss him as a cretinous homocidal racist...

See how that works.

[virtualobserver]

59. Really? making a comparison between understanding Cornell West and understanding Dylan Roof?

Jeez!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

60. The suggestion that we can dismiss everything a person says

The suggestion that we can dismiss everything a person says or does because we don't have the same experiences while appropriate in some instances is not a universal rule... Lots of African Americans have had the same experience as Cornel West and don't consider President Obama emasculated or n-------ed.

[virtualobserver]

63. I am not African-American

So I do not judge him or his words. That is just me. I am not qualified to do so.

I will leave that criticism to the "lots of African Americans" of whom you speak.

I do not question their judgment either. It would be presumptuous of me.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

85. Isn't that a rather parochial view, that we can only judge people of our own group?

eom

[virtualobserver]

90. not in this case....

but if you feel qualified to do so, be my guest.....just don't ask me to do it.

[Cha]

137. Who gives a shite if President Obama didn't meet Cornel's expectations.

"Cornel West: Obama Is First 'Niggerized' Black President"

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/06/cornel-west-obama-first-niggerized-black

“Calling Obama a ‘global George Zimmerman’?No. No.”: Michael Eric Dyson sounds off on Cornel West, Obama & his critics

The Georgetown University scholar and author reflects on his very public break with his mentor turned tormentor

snip//

When African-American friends defended the president, he went in on them. West called MSNBC’s Perry “a liar and a fraud,” claimed Sharpton was the “bona fide house negro of the Obama plantation,” and attacked “the Michael Dysons and others who’ve really prostituted themselves intellectually in a very, very ugly and vicious way.”

It’s true that as Dyson’s TNR piece bemoans the nasty ad hominem nature of West’s attacks on Obama, as well as on him and his colleagues, he gave almost as good as he got, first praising West as “the most exciting black scholar ever,” then charting his intellectual decline. “His greatest opponent isn’t Obama, Sharpton, Harris-Perry, or me,” the Georgetown scholar’s article concludes. “It is the ghost of a self that spits at him from his own mirror.”


http://www.salon.com/2015/04/22/calling_obama_a_global_george_zimmerman_no_no_michael_eric_dyson_sounds_off_on_cornel_west_obama_his_critics/

[7962]

104. O'Reilly said that because bernie didnt spin his answers.

I watched most of the interview. Sanders didnt do the typical pol-speak nonsense, he answered the questions and gave his opinion. O'Reilly said he was a straight shooter, which he is. Sanders even seemed to enjoy the interview. Sanders hasnt pandered to anyone as far as I've seen.

It's quite an accomplishment to be both too liberal AND a Fox News fav!! If Bernie can do that, maybe HE'S the guy to achieve peace in the ME!!

[Ichingcarpenter]

61. she has merely endorsed her, just like West did him.

show me '''just like west did'' like this

[leftynyc]

20. Well done +1000

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. At least McCAskill didn't call Bernie an emasculated man and the n word the way Corny called Obama

eom

[Rex]

33. Cornell West officially working for the Bernie Sanders campaign?

Yeah...didn't think so...not even a nice try...

[dsc]

35. is McCaskell employed by Clinton

last I checked she was employed by the US Government.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. Claire McCaskill officially working for the Hillary Clinton campaign?

Yeah...didn't think so...not even a nice try...

[misterhighwasted]

48. ^THIS^..

[hrmjustin]

74. Well done!

[mmonk]

16. Doesn't matter. Bernie has the high road.

[HappyMe]

21. Your concern is noted, McCaskill.

[bunnies]

22. Doesnt she have some more corporations to help sell us out to?

[tokenlib]

23. Who's next on the list of Hillary's surrogates to increase contributions for Bernie????

First Luis Gutierrez pissed off enough people to get out the checkbooks for Bernie, and now Claire McCaskill....

Foolish surrogates who insult and belittle Bernie and his supporters need to learn they will not help Hillary in the long run.

[misterhighwasted]

50. Hillary isn't worried about Bernie.

[Snotcicles]

56. Thats why she wants to get right at those extra debates. Bernie requested. nt

[misterhighwasted]

93. Yup. Amxious to hear his Brady Bill defense

Bernie Sanders is a cozy soft pillow next to the past 25 years of dealing with thr RW nasty Kkkarl Rove MSM lies & hate.
She's handled them & is still on top in the game.
She can debate Bernie. He's an easy one compared to the RW
I doubt anyone on Team Hillary is too concerned.

[Snotcicles]

94. When was that Brady Bill going through congress 1992-1993? nt

[virtualobserver]

96. he didn't like the 5 day waiting period

he felt that the one size fits all nature of the bill didn't work for rural areas

howard dean- very similar views


he was in favor of instant background checks

[Snotcicles]

115. Hillary will never go there on guns if she is smart. nt

[frylock]

88. Nah, it's just her surrogates that are worried.

[99Forever]

29. Because they are Team Hillary.

It's how they roll.

[randys1]

30. Why does HIllary seem to take more shit at Democratic Underground than most rightwing

sites?

Asks this Bernie supporter.

[virtualobserver]

43. I can't speak for everyone else

.....but I want to trust Hillary.


When she uses tactics that diminish progressive ideas it disturbs me.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. I can't speak for everyone else

.....but I like Bernie...


I hope he disassociates himself from someone who says Obama is an emasculated man and n-------ed.

[SidDithers]

54. +1...nt

Sid

[ieoeja]

73. Because she is a major factor in the erosion of women's rights.

Working class Whites are largely racist, misogynistic and homophobic. Democrats used to win that demographic anyway because, while we strongly supported social justice, we also supported economic justice. As long as we supported economic justice, they were willing to accept the social justice. The result was steady progress on social issues.

When a DLC founder got elected President, Democrats were persuaded to go along with giving up economic justice. To counter that, the DLC started backing Democrats willing to compromise on social justice to appeal to working class Whites. On many occasions backing from third way Democrats helped a compromised Democrat edge out a liberal Democrat in the primary.

And Hillary Clinton was the president of the DLC backing Democrats weak on social justice. While she never does anything directly against social justice, she has helped others opposed to social justice achieve the power to undo the advances we have made. The result has been varied. Gays have achieved a lot of equality. But for women and African-Americans, the country has been back-sliding.

I do not get why anyone at DU would let her slide on this.

[nolabear]

32. Note responses on this thread and find me the high road there.

And he IS a Socialist. He should be proud of it and run as he believes.

[hughee99]

36. So Candidate Hillary can take the high one. n/t

[bunnies]

37. So. Its obvious Hillary wont even try for single payer.

"too extreme". Great.

[Orsino]

40. Why are they always generalizing? n/t

[Snotcicles]

46. It's all boilerplate DLC, right out of the DLC playbook. Oh hey thats right the Clinton foundation

bought the historical records and website of the DLC back in 2011. Who next will be ripping on Bernie Sanders, Harold Ford?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council

[virtualobserver]

49. exactly, Bernie's porridge is too cold, the Republican porridge is too hot

My porridge is just right.

[Snotcicles]

52. Talk about a third party, kind of shimmied some where in between, so we can drift with the wind. nt

[Buns_of_Fire]

53. McCaskill is on Team McCaskill. I won't hang this on Team Hillary.

If they had any involvement at all, it might be just for McCaskill to casually toss it out there and see what (if any) response it gets, so they can note whether to let the term slip in occasionally or avoid it at all costs. Just a guess.

[tkmorris]

67. You've described it fairly accurately

McCaskill clearly was sent out to attack Bernie, so as to keep the attack a certain distance from the Hillary campaign itself. That is the essence of dirty politics and I have no doubt whatsoever it came directly from Hillary's campaign thinktank. I find it distasteful. YMMV.

[Buns_of_Fire]

123. Thank you. I manage to occasionally hit something within the foul lines.

I find it distasteful, too -- but I keep reminding myself that this is the realm of the hardest of hardball politics, and any chink (or perceived chink) in someone's armor is to be exploited. 'Tis the nature of the profession.

On a good day, such things are noted and then ignored. But they ARE noted.

[Zorra]

55. It's the third way of doing things, which many have adopted.

It stems from the laissez faire capitalist based ethical tradition of

"Let The Buyer Beware"

[Enthusiast]

62. McCaskill

[ChiciB1]

65. Claire McCaskill Is A Follower, NOT A Leader...

She's pledged herself to Hillary for her own personal gains, NOT because it may be best for the country! AND, she will do what she needs to, and Hillary has been the only game in town... since FOREVER!

[leftofcool]

68. Good! She spoke the truth.

[George II]

69. Claire McCaskill is NOT part of "Team Hillary"

[virtualobserver]

72. then again, maybe she is...

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/gateway-to-dc/raasch-mccaskill-and-the-power-and-peril-for-clinton-surrogates/article_d8c474ea-1fc7-518a-beb0-a9339243d8bb.html

[hifiguy]

71. Team Clinton has a long-established record

of saying and doing whatever is necessary, truthful or not, to gain an advantage.

Some of us recall all too vividly HRC's dog-whistling in 2008.

Standard Operational Bullshit.

[EndElectoral]

75. Neither do I hear the media refer to the fact McCaskill is a DINO.

[Ino]

76. Errr.... McCaskill endorsed Obama

She campaigned against Hilary in 2008.

[virtualobserver]

81. True, and now she is campaigning for Hillary

and doing a bang-up job.

[Historic NY]

77. Wow the outrage she pledge herself to Hillary Pac 2 yrs ago....

Bernies never going to make it if you bash all the super delegates.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/19/us/politics/mccaskill-lends-support-to-group-urging-2016-clinton-run.html

Just yesterday this was put out......remember its sauce for the goose.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6898719

[Spitfire of ATJ]

79. Because they saw it work for Republicans in the 90s....

You remember the 90s....

Newt came out with his "word list" and got a bunch of unqualified ASSHOLES into congress using negative campaigns and wedge issues.

That was also back when we had the lowest voter turnout in history because Republicans and Democrats had the exact same positions on every issue they cared about. The Red State Dems ran on the "I'm as good as a Republican" platform.

Hillary's people are running a generic formulaic campaign from the 20th Century.

[virtualobserver]

87. Language: A Key Mechanism of Control

Who could forget that classic work from the Newt

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4443.htm



Maybe we can ditch the Rebel flag and the 3rd way in the same election cycle.

[still_one]

84. McCaskill is an idiot. Actually, the media should be exposing O'Malley more. They seem to be doing

fine with their coverage of Hillary and Bernie, but it appears to me they are not covering O'Malley events as much

[LittleBlue]

89. Because they have absolutely nothing except a cult of personality

built on a myth and fueled by corporate money.

[7962]

97. Whats different for the past 25 yrs? Thats standard operating procedure for them

And really most politicians. But the clintons do usually take it to another level

[tularetom]

98. You can almost see the disdain dripping off the word "socialist"

And yet they've raised whining to an art form when they are criticized.

[virtualobserver]

101. When Bernie proves that it isn't a dirty word.....

Hillary will evolve INTO a socialist, at least on TV.

[Doctor_J]

100. They are now playing the race card every day as well

The simple explanation is that they are republicans.

[virtualobserver]

105. what are you referring to?

please elaborate

[LondonReign2]

116. Yup. It's sad that Clinton supporters are perfectly fine with such skeevy tactics

[CanadaexPat]

102. She's just highlighting Hillary and Bernie's common affection for Saul Alinsky.

[virtualobserver]

117. which team are you on'? n/t

[CanadaexPat]

120. Just pointing out that Hillary's has taken heat for being radical before...it's a bit disingenuous

for them to turn around and do it to someone else.

[Thinkingabout]

107. If this is a slur, why is Bernie calling himself a socialists? He is slurring himself.

[virtualobserver]

109. the difference is.......

she said that the media are giving Bernie "a pass" by not mentioning that he is a socialist.

Someone isn't given a pass for a good thing. You are only given a pass for bad things.


"

[Thinkingabout]

132. If it isn't a problem for Bernie to hold on to his socialists positions, then it isn't a problem

For him. I pointed this out before he declared his candidacy, I was told it wasn't a problem. When he wanted to promote his stand on the issue of being a socialists, it was good, it is not a selling point to many, it is his position.

[BainsBane]

139. Have you ever followed a US election before?

Good things become bad things. Kerry's Vietnam war service was swiftboated. Obama's multi-cultural background was cast as his not even being American. Racism, sexism, any and every foul attack is part and parcel of politics in this country and has been since the early Republic. Politics in America is dirty business, and no Democrat, even the most slimy like Terry MacAullife, can compete with the GOP. Politics is Hardball.

[virtualobserver]

141. This kind of "hardball" is a sign of weakness

It means that you can't make a legitimate case for yourself.

I'm not worried about this damaging Bernie. He knows how to handle this, and if Hillary doesn't watch out, this will be her undoing.

[Fumesucker]

108. Because they aren't on their way to Scotland...

[virtualobserver]

111. I've always wanted to go to Scotland.....

on edit- misread

[Fumesucker]

113. As long as you don't mind getting there before Hillary n/t

[LanternWaste]

125. same reason that Democrats are compelled to debate personalities rather than policies...

Possibly for the same reason that many Democrats on DU are compelled to debate personalities rather than policies in the primaries, illustrating a distinct and dramatic lack of substance and objectivity.

They are using the term "ALWAYS" as though it has meaning.

They are using the term Team Hillary in the same manner as right wing slur.

Reminds me of my second grade campaign class president against Lisa Beurlini.





(distinction lacking a difference below to maintain fiction of objectivity...)

[virtualobserver]

128. I used always because she ALWAYS sinks to this level eventually

and does so against Democrats and I am tired of it.


I am criticizing tactics, not personality......unless you are asserting that
using this kind of attack is an integral part of her personality...
then I defer to your deeper understanding of her.

I used TEAM HILLARY because it was done through one of her surrogates.

It is a group effort.

[BrotherIvan]

130. And yet, on this very thread, are the people who are most

CONCERNED that Bernie supporters are too mean. You can't make this shit up.



It's brilliant Hillary! Keep going! You're doing a GREAT job.

[CTBlueboy]

133. Deja vu

Keep talking surrogates its really helped Hillary in 08'

Those surrogates have diarrhea mouth let them expose themselves

[BainsBane]

138. The fact is for most Americans, at least of a certain age,

it is a dirty word. The Cold War ensured that. This should come as a surprise to no one. You can't wish away the last 60 years of American history and propaganda because you suddenly find it inconvenient.
If Sanders starts to become a serious contender, you will see much, much more of it. If he wins the nomination, the GOP will engage in all out nuclear war. Sanders will be cast as Joseph Stalin, and Cold War rhetoric will be given new life through growing tensions with Russia.

This ain't nothing. If you're complaining now, you're not ready for the main event.

[virtualobserver]

142. and so was liberal, to a lesser degree

but to quote Bob Dylan

"The times they are a changin' "

[treestar]

146. Exactly. Wait till the OP sees how low the Republicans can get. eom

[virtualobserver]

148. the republicans are children

they have only been successful because of Democrats adopting the same strategy and also falling for those strategies (Oooh, I am not nearly as liberal as you say I am, look at all the conservative things I've done)

These techniques only work on cowards, and those who are poll testing their positions.

[4_TN_TITANS]

140. Bernie just declared as a Dem for this

election cycle, of course establishment Dems will be against him. That said, ignoring his message will be their downfall.

[Exilednight]

144. In the short run, it's easy to run downhill. What they forget

Is that there is an equally, yet grueling, upward slope once they hit the lowest point.

[lame54]

145. they are giving him a pass...

as in passing right by him

but they can't ignore him forever

[Betty Karlson]

147. Ms. McCaskill took the low road indeed.

But have you seen the Clinton video in support of marriage equality? That is the high road.