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Tue May 15, 2012, 06:00 PM

This makes me furious:

All over America, people have to decide to rent cars and drive places, as they don't want to end up like this traveler ended up:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40291856/ns/travel-news/#.T7LBEvUeEtx

What is with our nation that we the sheeple refuse to see to it that we are protected from these agents?

What do we have to do?

Where are the candidates who once in office will see to it that we don't have TSA molest babies in diapers, grab granmas by their breasts and hassle cancer survivors till their clothes are covered in their urine.

Who is out there that is against this? Do I have to hope that Jesse Ventura will run for office so We the People get habeus corpus back soon? Who is going to tackle this problem?

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truedelphi May 2012 OP
Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #1
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #3
geardaddy May 2012 #11
FSogol May 2012 #2
Solomon May 2012 #4
Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #5
MineralMan May 2012 #6
MineralMan May 2012 #7
Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #8
MineralMan May 2012 #9
yurbud May 2012 #10
truedelphi May 2012 #12
tabbycat31 May 2012 #13
truedelphi May 2012 #14

Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2012, 06:02 PM

1. You lost me at Jesse Ventura. n/t

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #1)

Tue May 15, 2012, 06:09 PM

3. Me, too.

He used to be my Governor. He can be entertaining but he's basically an egomaniacal crackpot.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #1)

Wed May 16, 2012, 01:04 PM

11. Me three.

Try having him as governor before you wish for him to run for an office that represents you.

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Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2012, 06:09 PM

2. Jesse Ventura?

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Response to FSogol (Reply #2)

Tue May 15, 2012, 07:09 PM

4. LOL. Jessie made the mistake of crossing over into

conspiracy territory. Once he did that, he was toast. Everybody knows all the shit that happens is by conspiracy. But you can't talk about it openly or you'll be branded. Automatically discarded, even if you're right about something. Labelled.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #4)

Wed May 16, 2012, 08:49 AM

5. Or maybe some conspiracies are nuttier than squirrel poop. n/t

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Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2012, 09:33 AM

6. I remember that story from last year.

It was a horrible situation for the traveler. TSA patdown personnel need better training in handling such situations, including training in ostomy appliances and how they are used. I imagine that most of the people doing patdowns rarely see this situation, so training is needed to alert them to issues involved with such cases.

No matter what the situation is, or what the thing it is that people do, there will be situations that come up that were not anticipated properly. That's true with the TSA, and it's true of many other places where people come into contact with other people.

That you had to find a 2011 story is an indication that such is not the norm. The TSA's apology is another indication of the same thing.

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Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2012, 09:36 AM

7. From a link in that story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40320562/ns/travel-news/t/tsa-chief-apologizes-traveler-ostomy/#.T7OswegeM-A

TSA chief apologizes to traveler with ostomy

A retired special education teacher who said he was left humiliated, crying and covered with his own urine after an enhanced pat-down at airport security said he received an apology Monday in a phone call from Transportation Security Administration chief John Pistole.

“First he apologized,” said Thomas D. “Tom” Sawyer, 61, of Lansing, Mich. “And I thanked him. Then I told him off a bit. And he said, ‘Tell me more. What do you think needs to be done?’ ”

“I offered to attend a general staff meeting to show the staff what an ostomy bag is and help with that training,” Sawyer said. “Pistole said he just may take me up on that.”


Training. A good idea.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #7)

Wed May 16, 2012, 09:38 AM

8. We should always be glad when things move from bad to better but sometimes better seems so

pale.

ugh

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #8)

Wed May 16, 2012, 12:46 PM

9. Well, yes. Nobody likes to be searched.

One thing's certain, though: The TSA is not going away. I can't imagine that we'll ever see any less security at airports. My only point is that individual situations where something goes wrong do not typify people's experience with the TSA. They're exceptional incidents, and rare. We just don't hear about the millions of people who pass through TSA security with little inconvenience and without feeling overly scrutinized.

In this case, which was deplorable, it led to additional training. I think that happens a lot when something goes wrong, but that doesn't make a good post on DU.

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Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2012, 12:53 PM

10. I think even the righties are getting sick of this shit

of course they would rather replace it with racial profiling, but something's got to give.

What is absurd is how low the risk is this is supposedly deterring, and most of the recent attempts on airliners have been foiled by other PASSENGERS NOT SECURITY.

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Response to yurbud (Reply #10)

Wed May 16, 2012, 03:05 PM

12. You bring up some good points.

I'll add another one: I forget the exact statistics, but there is something like an additional five thousand deaths a year, due to how so many people now drive long instances rather than fly.

With flying being much safer than driving. I cannot even begin to count the times I was almost creamed by another driver on the way to the airport, as opposed to the one time in 55 years that I felt my life was at risk while in a plane.

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Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2012, 03:38 PM

13. Easy solution to the TSA

Make people traveling on private jets go through the same kind of security that people traveling on commercial airliners go through.

The problem would be solved overnight.

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Response to tabbycat31 (Reply #13)

Tue May 22, 2012, 03:32 PM

14. Well the Powers that Be are aaware of your sentiments. Just the other day, they even

Went to the trouble of pretending they frisked Henry Kissinger the same way they would frisk you or me.

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