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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:23 AM Jun 2015

Native American given less than 2 gallons of water while jailed 13 days over bad check — and now he’

Native American given less than 2 gallons of water while jailed 13 days over bad check — and now he’s dead
Travis Gettys - RawStory
30 Jun 2015 at 09:29 ET


Keaton Farris

<snip>

A Native American man starved to death while jailed 13 days over a bad check in Washington.

An autopsy showed that Keaton Farris died April 7 of dehydration and malnutrition after nearly two weeks in the Island County Jail, reported Natives in America.

Relatives hired a detective to investigate his death, and they learned two months later that jail employees refused to offer medical treatment to Farris or provide medication for his bipolar disorder.

They also found the 25-year-old Farris was denied even the minimum amount of water needed for human survival after guards shut it off to prevent him from flooding his cell.

The investigation revealed Farris had been given just 185 ounces of water, or about a gallon and a half, while incarcerated – far below the 1,563 ounces recommended under National Institute of Health guidelines.

That’s less than one quarter of the 791-ounce minimum needed for survival in emergency situations, according to guidelines set by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Farris had been jailed in late March on identity theft charges after authorities said he cashed a stolen check for $350.

“I was projecting my thoughts at the people inside (the bank),” Farris told the arresting officer. “I’m off my meds right now and I’m pretty anxious right now but your badge is calming me down.”

<snip>

More: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/native-american-given-less-than-2-gallons-of-water-while-jailed-13-days-over-bad-check-and-now-hes-dead/








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Native American given less than 2 gallons of water while jailed 13 days over bad check — and now he’ (Original Post) WillyT Jun 2015 OP
No words. Doremus Jun 2015 #1
+1000 catbyte Jun 2015 #8
I have two words. The only words I think of with something like this is Cassidy1 Jun 2015 #24
goddamn it.... dhill926 Jun 2015 #2
... progressoid Jun 2015 #3
What the fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck! Rex Jun 2015 #4
some won't be happy until all first nation people are dead. then they don't have to consider roguevalley Jun 2015 #20
True it is already happening here in Texas, they want to teach Real Christian (tm) history. Rex Jun 2015 #32
How do we wind up with so many seriously evil brer cat Jun 2015 #5
Because the ones who aren't let it happen. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #6
The opportunity to exercise power over people who cannot fight back hifiguy Jun 2015 #33
^ BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2015 #48
how do we wind up wity so many seriously evil people bonniebgood Jul 2015 #53
K&R! Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #7
Freeland Washington, about 20 miles north of Seattle Stuart G Jun 2015 #9
K&R for exposure. JEB Jun 2015 #10
Unbelievable! denvine Jun 2015 #11
A new capital crime, cashing a bad check. shraby Jun 2015 #12
NOT a "bad" check, it was a STOLEN check... but in NO WAY EXCUSES THE ACTIONS of the jailers Ghost in the Machine Jun 2015 #42
I would say 1st Degree Murder / depraved indifference because I would think that avebury Jul 2015 #54
Yeah, the Civil Rights Violations lawsuit went without saying.. I figured that's a given.... Ghost in the Machine Jul 2015 #63
K & R for exposure. nt SunSeeker Jun 2015 #13
So very sorry. I hope the family sues the county. That is the only way they learn. jwirr Jun 2015 #14
Unfortunately, sueing doesn't do much except cost the taxpayers. Stonepounder Jun 2015 #18
I realize that the taxpayers end up with the bill but they are also to ones who allow the people jwirr Jun 2015 #19
Limited Liability! cynzke Jul 2015 #50
So? This wouldn't have happened if he didn't do anything wrong. AnnetteJacobs Jun 2015 #15
You're saying he deserved to die for his crime? Ilsa Jul 2015 #55
I Think It's Clear The Poster Doesn't Think That ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #58
This is criminal neglect in my humble opinion. There may be some explanation JDPriestly Jun 2015 #16
I second that motion d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #27
Pardon my ignorance, but why was he flooding his cell? Calista241 Jun 2015 #17
He is bi-polar and off his meds. They also refused to get him medical treatment. jwirr Jun 2015 #21
It's a response to abuse. yardwork Jul 2015 #61
Murder charges for all involved. Sadistic 'guardians' deny food and water to their charges in Sunlei Jun 2015 #22
Cold blooded murder. blackspade Jun 2015 #23
Fucking killer prison guards, lark Jun 2015 #25
He was Native American Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #26
Mayo Clinic says eight 8-oz glasses a day as a rule of thumb KansDem Jun 2015 #28
He was flooding his cell fine Kalidurga Jun 2015 #29
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2015 #30
:) WillyT Jun 2015 #34
I don't understand it either. Uncle Joe Jun 2015 #35
And To You... And To Us All... WillyT Jun 2015 #36
How sick is that. Scumbags. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #31
That is torture plain and simple BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #37
something like the opposite of waterboarding. niyad Jun 2015 #38
there are words, but would probably get me banned. niyad Jun 2015 #39
Horrible. Sorry to say... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jun 2015 #40
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2015 #41
He wasn't Native American. RawStory printed a correction. Liberty Belle Jun 2015 #43
We hire thugs as prison guards. I know they will let someone die and refuse to get them sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #44
Not to excuse this, but my guess is that prison guards SheilaT Jul 2015 #45
More info and pictures of protest and actions annm4peace Jul 2015 #46
UPDATE: Farris NOT Native American. chknltl Jul 2015 #47
There is this new invention called a "cup"... graegoyle Jul 2015 #49
they murdered him barbtries Jul 2015 #51
This is horrible. No one ever seems to answer for this kind of abuse. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #52
I'm so sick of fredamae Jul 2015 #56
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #57
K&R...this is sick, criminal, awful. n/t ms liberty Jul 2015 #59
I hope that there is life beyond the one we know; R. P. McMurphy Jul 2015 #60
Facts and possible helpful actions can be found at the website his family has made Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #62
 

Cassidy1

(300 posts)
24. I have two words. The only words I think of with something like this is
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:06 PM
Jun 2015
Just-Us. The people locking him up are not the Justice System. They are the Just Us System.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. What the fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jun 2015

The cops that did this deserve...more than just going to prison. All I will say, anything else will get me in trouble.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
20. some won't be happy until all first nation people are dead. then they don't have to consider
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 01:40 PM
Jun 2015

how this country got to be this country and who paid the greatest price for our manifest(ly) (evil) destiny.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
32. True it is already happening here in Texas, they want to teach Real Christian (tm) history.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 07:06 PM
Jun 2015

Were Moses is a founding father...I wish I was making this up. Abbott just assigned the head position over all school districts in Texas to a home schooler!

brer cat

(27,587 posts)
5. How do we wind up with so many seriously evil
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:19 PM
Jun 2015

people in authority? Is there a box on the application form to check off if one is a psychopath so they all get hired?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
33. The opportunity to exercise power over people who cannot fight back
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jun 2015

and do so without any possibility of accountability has ever drawn the worst in humanity as the first volunteers.

bonniebgood

(958 posts)
53. how do we wind up wity so many seriously evil people
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:33 AM
Jul 2015

in this authority? insert (D)evil. according to the christian bible, the devil was thrown to earth to cause these sickness, divisions and problems.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
9. Freeland Washington, about 20 miles north of Seattle
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:47 PM
Jun 2015

K and r...what kind of people are there that ran that jail?...Fuck, who is responsible???

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
10. K&R for exposure.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:51 PM
Jun 2015

Some lawyer should make a boat load of cash. Is this our country?

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
42. NOT a "bad" check, it was a STOLEN check... but in NO WAY EXCUSES THE ACTIONS of the jailers
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:07 PM
Jun 2015

They should all be charged with negligent homicide and 1st degree murder...

Ghost

avebury

(11,196 posts)
54. I would say 1st Degree Murder / depraved indifference because I would think that
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:55 AM
Jul 2015

premeditation could be proven. They intentionally deprived him of food and water necessary for survival. They didn't just deprive him for one day. They did it day after day after day after day and so on until he died on their watch. Then maybe look at charging their supervisors for negilgent homicide for allowing it to happen and not properly supervising their underlings.

And don't forget the civil suit that will probably be filed.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
63. Yeah, the Civil Rights Violations lawsuit went without saying.. I figured that's a given....
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:09 AM
Jul 2015

EVERY PERSON in that jail who wore a uniform needs to be charged because this didn't happen overnight, it was an ongoing torture during each shift! I can't get over what happened to this poor man

Peace,

Ghost

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
18. Unfortunately, sueing doesn't do much except cost the taxpayers.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jun 2015

The only way that these POSs will ever learn is when DA's decide to start prosecuting this crap and start putting these bastards in jail themselves.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
19. I realize that the taxpayers end up with the bill but they are also to ones who allow the people
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 01:40 PM
Jun 2015

they vote in to establish a system like this. If they realize that they are on hook for the behavior of their government employees them they just might do something because they also hire the DA.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
50. Limited Liability!
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 05:44 AM
Jul 2015

Public employees are granted limited liability by state and local government in the performance of their jobs, but there are exemptions to this. Recklessness, negligence and criminal behaviour do not afford employees protection from prosecution and/or civil lawsuits. Public employees get personally sued all the time. Their attorneys will try to get the lawsuit dismissed based on their limited liability mantle, but the court/judge will decide whether the employee's conduct was reasonable or if he believes the public servant was negligent, the court can order the lawsuit to proceed and the employee can be held personally and financially responsible for his actions.

AnnetteJacobs

(142 posts)
15. So? This wouldn't have happened if he didn't do anything wrong.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 01:21 PM
Jun 2015

"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime" and all..."
(That's the prevailing attitude of much of America, not mine.)

Ilsa

(64,368 posts)
55. You're saying he deserved to die for his crime?
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:36 AM
Jul 2015

By starvation and dehydration? That form of execution is considered cruel and unusual punishment.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. This is criminal neglect in my humble opinion. There may be some explanation
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 01:22 PM
Jun 2015

but just offhand, this looks like a crime to me.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
27. I second that motion
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:29 PM
Jun 2015

The guards were tasked with taking care of the incarcerated. There is no excuse for someone to die in their care. I don't care how big of an asshole this guy was this is inexcusable.

Calista241

(5,633 posts)
17. Pardon my ignorance, but why was he flooding his cell?
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 01:28 PM
Jun 2015

That's no reason to kill the man, but I guess I don't understand why someone would do that.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
61. It's a response to abuse.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:07 AM
Jul 2015

I've read that prisoners do this in an effort to get needed medical attention.

There is something very wrong in our prisons.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. Murder charges for all involved. Sadistic 'guardians' deny food and water to their charges in
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:01 PM
Jun 2015

all levels of our society. That is murder. Even animal abusers are charged with a crime!

lark

(26,081 posts)
25. Fucking killer prison guards,
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jun 2015

same as killer cops. WTF is wrong with this world? If there were any justice, the prison would be shut down, stripped of it's present ownership and the guards responsible would be held criminally liable for his death and go to jail. If they let the people go that were incarcerated for drugs, the prison population would decrease dramatically and we'd save billions in taxpayer dollars. We also need to end privatized prisons, they're a big part of the problem.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
26. He was Native American
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:27 PM
Jun 2015

as the Confederate flag flap shows, nobody gives a damn about Native Americans. Or they'd be demanding the US flag be taken down too, given what the Native Americans suffered under that banner was an order of magnitude worse even than Confederate-era slavery.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
28. Mayo Clinic says eight 8-oz glasses a day as a rule of thumb
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:31 PM
Jun 2015
Mayo Clinic

That's half a gallon.

So he was given sufficient water for 4 days. And they kept him imprisoned for 13 days.

One need only do the math...

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
29. He was flooding his cell fine
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 03:23 PM
Jun 2015

That sounds like a reason to send him to the infirmary to figure out what his issues are. Or shut of the water fine, but then you better be prepared to bring bottled water and if he pours it on the floor rather than drink it o i dunno take him to the infirmary to figure out what his issues are.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
38. something like the opposite of waterboarding.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 10:36 PM
Jun 2015

I hope these murderous bastards get charged and convicted, but will not be holding my breath.

Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)
40. Horrible. Sorry to say...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 10:57 PM
Jun 2015

... if you had published this story leaving out the details of where (what country) it took place,
I would have guessed the US and felt rather confident about being right. Sad.

Liberty Belle

(9,707 posts)
43. He wasn't Native American. RawStory printed a correction.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:59 PM
Jun 2015

But it's still a terrible crime and I hope the guards are charged with murder.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
44. We hire thugs as prison guards. I know they will let someone die and refuse to get them
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:04 AM
Jul 2015

medication if they feel like it. I learned all about our gulags when a friend ended up in one of them on a traffic charge. A minor issue that should not have ended up with jail time.

I visited him frequently along with other friends and family members, we wrote cards, sent letters etc because if they think the person has no people to support them, it will be even worse.

He needed meds but missed the 'cart' that came around due to a prison change of his schedule. It was Friday. He called to say they would not provide meds until Monday. Frantic we called the prison, to no avail. They are nasty, rude and could not care less about human life.

His dad was a lawyer, but told us they would not respond to him either. I called another lawyer asking if we could sue them. His response? 'Come back if he dies'.

This is the NORM now in our disgraceful, human rights violating prison system.

May he RIP. And I hope these nazi thugs find themselves where he was, behind bars. But I know that is very unlikely.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
45. Not to excuse this, but my guess is that prison guards
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:06 AM
Jul 2015

have zero training in how to handle mentally ill inmates. And very little realistic training in how to handle inmates in general.

Worse yet, in recent decades there has evolved a more and more "us against them" mentality. We see it at all levels, but it's especially noticeable in law enforcement, and secondarily in prisons.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
47. UPDATE: Farris NOT Native American.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:14 AM
Jul 2015

Just got done reading the story at the provided link. At the bottom of the story: "Update: An earlier version of this report inaccurately described Farris as a Native American."

Also, I am Bi-Polar, life is tough enough with meds. It'd be tough surviving jail without them.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
52. This is horrible. No one ever seems to answer for this kind of abuse.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 05:56 AM
Jul 2015

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fredamae

(4,458 posts)
56. I'm so sick of
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:05 AM
Jul 2015

this shit....it just adds insult to injury to know we pay for criminal and tortuous behavior from the people we hire and entrust.....and we pay, not just with our tax dollars but worst of all.....our loved ones pay with their lives, for tortuous, hideous, willful, imo-incompetence and virtual non-remedial/corrective action post discovery. I don't call "leave and resignations" any sort of "remedy".
Who are "we"?

Disabled, mentally ill, people of color, LGBTQ, women, kids, elderly, veterans, impoverished.....all are targets.
It's kind of hard to find anyone who doesn't meet criteria for at least one of these groups. Congress has done nothing except to open up the avenues that allow this to occur. DOJ has done little to remedy this. That's scary as hell.



R. P. McMurphy

(863 posts)
60. I hope that there is life beyond the one we know;
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:55 AM
Jul 2015

that this young man is there and that he never again feels sickness, pain, hunger, thirst, fear, loneliness or anguish.

My thoughts and prayers are with him and his family. My prayers continue for an end to this hatred, cruelty and injustice.

I obviously know nothing about this man but I have to wonder why he stole the check and was off his meds. Was there ever regular work for him? Could he afford his meds? Did he spend his entire life being oppressed and discriminated against? Maybe I'm way off base but this is the America I've come to know.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
62. Facts and possible helpful actions can be found at the website his family has made
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:39 AM
Jul 2015

"I see your hate, and raise you One Love." - Keaton Farris (April 12, 2012)

http://www.keatonh2o.com/

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