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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:51 AM Jul 2015

I created the Isis dildo flag at London Pride to start a dialogue, not get a laugh



I spent the morning of London’s Pride parade hand-stitching dildos onto a flag.

I’d been using the sex-toy motif in my work before I made a flag of Isis out of them and brought it to the march. Previously, I’ve attached dildos onto postcards from each country where homosexuality is still illegal to point out that the laws of these places regards its gay residents as mere sex objects.

The decision to make the flag was a simple one: a sense of outrage at Isis’s brutal advance across North Africa, Libya, Syria and Iraq. Medieval ideologies and barbarism were being spread and recorded through that most modern of expressions, social media, with that flag ever-present. It has become a potent symbol of brutality, fear and sexual oppression. If I wanted to try and stimulate a dialogue about the ridiculousness of this ideology, the flag was key.

It was important that I didn’t try to replicate the writing on the flag, because the words and their subject – Islam – are not the target. But if I showed as little respect to this flag as Isis shows to the religion and people they claim to represent so that when people saw it they would think, “dildos”? Would that be a crazy idea?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/30/isis-dildo-flag-london-pride-cnn
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I created the Isis dildo flag at London Pride to start a dialogue, not get a laugh (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Jul 2015 OP
This flag is art. I loved how CNN reported on it, too. k&r, nt. Electric Monk Jul 2015 #1
I prefer this flag over the one Baghdadi invented. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #3
Oh, well. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #4
That is what I suspected. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #5
Was that a different report than when the person first stated they saw an Isis flag cui bono Jul 2015 #6
I am not sure, but I think it's the same flag Kalidurga Jul 2015 #7
I found it funny because they believed there's a link between ISIS and Liberals.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #8
Oh my I forgot that is where Glen Beck started. I know virtually nothing about Lou Dobbs except... Kalidurga Jul 2015 #9
Too many "journalists" are infotainment personalities.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #11
That is why I stopped watching the "news". Kalidurga Jul 2015 #13
Right-wingers DEPEND on the likes of FOX "News" to tell them what to THINK.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #14
This is so true. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #15
I used to crack up when they felt the need to "teach".... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #16
Oh they are teaching us alright Kalidurga Jul 2015 #17
Don't forget selfish and greedy. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #18
Oh yes they are that too. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #19
What gets me is they're a tiny minority who wants to wipe out minorities. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #20
No I don't think conservatives want to wipe out minorities Kalidurga Jul 2015 #21
Trust me, they'd like to kill them all.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #22
Yikes Kalidurga Jul 2015 #23
He may not have tried to replicate the writing, but some of it is recognizable nonetheless. MADem Jul 2015 #10
It did start a dialog. Iggo Jul 2015 #12
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
2. I prefer this flag over the one Baghdadi invented.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:31 AM
Jul 2015

Humour is a mighty weapon, because oppressors can never figure it out.

Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
6. Was that a different report than when the person first stated they saw an Isis flag
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 03:46 AM
Jul 2015

at the gay pride parade and it turned out it was a flag of dildos? I didn't watch that video but saw a pic and I think that was a different flag.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
7. I am not sure, but I think it's the same flag
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 03:58 AM
Jul 2015

either way CNN was wayyyyyyyyyyy off the mark again. The only time I see CNN is when someone posts a video and it's usually something like this where they just jump to some crazy conclusion. It's almost as bad as FOX lately as far as fact checking goes.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
8. I found it funny because they believed there's a link between ISIS and Liberals....
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:02 AM
Jul 2015

What could we expect from the birthplace of Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
9. Oh my I forgot that is where Glen Beck started. I know virtually nothing about Lou Dobbs except...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:09 AM
Jul 2015

he has been around for a long long long time and he has a nice voice. But, yes it struck me as odd they would think that a gay liberal would be parading around with an Isis Flag. I was thinking that guy is really brave, you never know if you are around a lone nut. But, he lived to report the reason for the flag. I am starting to think amateur reporters might be better than many so called journalists.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
11. Too many "journalists" are infotainment personalities....
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:41 PM
Jul 2015

I remember when CNN was the home of actual journalists like Bernard Shaw. Wolf Blitzer is a joke.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
13. That is why I stopped watching the "news".
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:47 PM
Jul 2015

Sports, weather, and entertainment that is all they report. Real news is reported with those rolling messages under the "newscasters", unless it's a plane crash or something. They do manage somehow to get the headline making news stories on and get real reporters on the scene.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. Right-wingers DEPEND on the likes of FOX "News" to tell them what to THINK....
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jul 2015

That's because thinking like a right-winger is not natural. It takes constant input.

I used to crack up when something happened late Friday or over the weekend and the Dittoheads were totally LOST as to how to respond until they heard Rush on Monday. Liberals don't NEED to listen to some hero figure's spin to form an opinion.

The Republican's greatest fear is a crackdown on the right-wing poison in this country because a lot of these people would have to think for themselves and the years of conditioning would be undone as their basic humanity took over.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
15. This is so true.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:15 AM
Jul 2015

I talk to conservatives and I get Rush's talking points from them. So, in a way I do listen to Rush. Rarely directly and I am always surprised when a talking point goes back to that college drop out.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
16. I used to crack up when they felt the need to "teach"....
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:26 AM
Jul 2015

They honestly believe they were spreading the gospel and people would be in awe of their knowledge and insight.

It led some idiot working in the mailroom listening to the Pigman before lunch to believe all it takes is to parrot that crap to the right guy upstairs and they'd be invited to sit on the board of directors.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
17. Oh they are teaching us alright
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:04 PM
Jul 2015

They are teaching us we are not off the mark when we say that conservatives tend to be sexist, homophobic, racist, and xenophobic.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
19. Oh yes they are that too.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:29 PM
Jul 2015

I saw a poll asking conservatives who deserves to starve. They voted that low wage workers deserve to starve even if they have children. Yes, people who work 40 hours a week in the worst jobs deserve to starve because they couldn't afford to go to college. They are sick disgusting people.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
22. Trust me, they'd like to kill them all....
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:40 PM
Jul 2015

It's the whole "Turner Diaries" thing. They want America and then the whole PLANET to be White Only.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
23. Yikes
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jul 2015

I think there are some like that. Fortunately there aren't a whole lot of them, just enough to make things difficult or worse for POC and their allies. The worst thing is the ones who are seem to gravitate to jobs where they have authority like police work.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. He may not have tried to replicate the writing, but some of it is recognizable nonetheless.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:23 AM
Jul 2015

Particularly the Magic Word--the name of the Prophet less so, but in context one could figure it out.

He accomplished his goal, CNN notwithstanding:


But oh, it did. On a message board someone posted: “Whenever I see the Isis flag anywhere, all I can see is dildos!” Mission accomplished.

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