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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Thu May 17, 2012, 11:31 AM May 2012

Republicans seek "extremely literate conservative African-American" for role in Obama SwiftBoating

WASHINGTON — A group of high-profile Republican strategists is working with a conservative billionaire on a proposal to mount one of the most provocative campaigns of the “super PAC” era and attack President Obama in ways that Republicans have so far shied away from.

“The world is about to see Jeremiah Wright and understand his influence on Barack Obama for the first time in a big, attention-arresting way,” says the proposal, which was overseen by Fred Davis and commissioned by Joe Ricketts, the founder of the brokerage firm TD Ameritrade. Mr. Ricketts is increasingly putting his fortune to work in conservative politics.

The $10 million plan, one of several being studied by Mr. Ricketts, includes preparations for how to respond to the charges of race-baiting it envisions if it highlights Mr. Obama’s former ties to Mr. Wright, who espouses what is known as “black liberation theology.”

The group suggested hiring as a spokesman an “extremely literate conservative African-American” who can argue that Mr. Obama misled the nation by presenting himself as what the proposal calls a “metrosexual, black Abe Lincoln.”

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Republicans seek "extremely literate conservative African-American" for role in Obama SwiftBoating (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 OP
Does any American really GIVE a shit about Jeremaiah Wright . . . HughBeaumont May 2012 #1
I guess we should ask President McCain if Wright mattered or matters catbyte May 2012 #5
If only Republicans/Conservatives were judged by 10 seconds (actually, far more than that) zbdent May 2012 #16
Scumbags is far too kind a word for these people. hifiguy May 2012 #2
The problem is it is an insult to pigs, and they are scum /nt still_one May 2012 #4
I'm not insulting the pigs. hifiguy May 2012 #7
am I glad I never did business with ameritrade. If I had an account with them I would immediately still_one May 2012 #3
TOO Funny Mr Dixon May 2012 #6
Those "extremely literate conservative African-American" types are apparently so rare Jackpine Radical May 2012 #8
Yep...it implies that they've gotta go find one Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #13
They can have their pick HillWilliam May 2012 #19
Guess they aren't considering Herman Cain treestar May 2012 #26
I'll be surprised if they don't also specify "articulate" also. Quantess May 2012 #37
Not to mention clean. Jackpine Radical May 2012 #39
I suspect the blowback is going to bury this one before it gets anywhere. yellowcanine May 2012 #9
I know just the guy Capt. Obvious May 2012 #10
Bingo! Thread winner! Scuba May 2012 #47
I think you're confusing "articulateness" rocktivity May 2012 #53
What they don't want Herman Cain anymore? WI_DEM May 2012 #11
I'm going to enjoy forcing Mittens to defend his Mormon doctrine if they do this. WI_DEM May 2012 #12
Steal a page from Rove ... find a Fundy who will make ads saving that Mormonism is a cult ... JoePhilly May 2012 #21
The racism drips from their fangs. Rex May 2012 #14
They are severely "misunderestimating" if they think NYC Liberal May 2012 #15
Obama saw the fried chicken, watermelon and pimp photos EARLY in the game... Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #20
Exactly, and on top of that... NYC Liberal May 2012 #24
"Ask Osama bin Laden whether I engage in appeasement." Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #25
Haven't they already tried that and failed? treestar May 2012 #17
They should just keep fighting the last battle, that always works! eom Maeve May 2012 #18
Haven't you forgotten that this is a bunch that fails upward? JHB May 2012 #36
. rocktivity May 2012 #54
This is going to blow up in their faces. Ganja Ninja May 2012 #22
i guess we're beyond the 'articulate' benchmark at this point, huh? NatBurner May 2012 #23
They want Obama? Richardo May 2012 #27
DUzy! Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #28
Spppffff underpants May 2012 #42
The funny thing is using the term "metrosexual, black Abe Lincoln" Jazzgirl May 2012 #29
I gther that would be someone who led the country through a war Jackpine Radical May 2012 #40
Important info on Joe Ricketts Oldtimeralso May 2012 #30
Mr. Ricketts = Ameritrade Botany May 2012 #31
Remember when we just ignored Jeremiah Wright and Barack Obama in 2008? Bolo Boffin May 2012 #32
But it's not about race. It's not. Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #33
They want Colin Powell... cynatnite May 2012 #34
If they do hire an"extremely literate conservative" A-A... JHB May 2012 #35
shammity had edward klein on last night... la la May 2012 #38
Ricketts is backing off this as fast as possible -- well THAT took less than a day underpants May 2012 #41
LOL "reflects an approach to politics that Mr. Ricketts rejects." HangOnKids May 2012 #43
wow, just wow arely staircase May 2012 #44
I'm out of Ameritrade, and left owned stock trading companies? boblisa May 2012 #45
I'd like to do the same thing. I have an IRA there. crazylikafox May 2012 #46
I'm very happy with Vanguard OKNancy May 2012 #48
My husband likes ING - TBF May 2012 #51
In 3..2...1 DonCoquixote May 2012 #49
Well, let's see. You've got Herman the Pimp, Allen "ALL DUMMYCRATS IS COMMIES" West, Arkana May 2012 #50
Been there, done that? rocktivity May 2012 #52

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
1. Does any American really GIVE a shit about Jeremaiah Wright . . .
Thu May 17, 2012, 11:34 AM
May 2012

. . . as much as Republicans THINK they give a shit?

It's hilarious, really, that they're going this route . . . more hilarious than the fact that Conservatives have approximately BUPKIS ELSE to run on as far as a successful track record goes.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
16. If only Republicans/Conservatives were judged by 10 seconds (actually, far more than that)
Thu May 17, 2012, 11:57 AM
May 2012

of their entire life as Rev. Wright is ...

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
2. Scumbags is far too kind a word for these people.
Thu May 17, 2012, 11:34 AM
May 2012

Pig-f*ckers comes a little bit closer to the mark but even that falls short.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
6. TOO Funny
Thu May 17, 2012, 11:37 AM
May 2012

ROFL: what kind of Dinosaurs do these people have in their think tank? How the hell do they think a Black on Black hate campaign is a winning slogan? ROFL didn’t Cain and that clown Allen West already play the Uncle tom role? This should be funny.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. Those "extremely literate conservative African-American" types are apparently so rare
Thu May 17, 2012, 11:38 AM
May 2012

that they gotta put it in the job description.

Their racism leaks through every pore, donnit?

OK, to be fair, there is that "conservative" problem. They probably had "non-psychotic" on the list too, but had to remove it in order to have any candidates at all for the job.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
13. Yep...it implies that they've gotta go find one
Thu May 17, 2012, 11:43 AM
May 2012

I understand all of the "extremely literate conservative Caucasian" positions are filled.

HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
19. They can have their pick
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:00 PM
May 2012

of "literate" or "conservative" anybody. Th'ain't no such animal as a person who's both.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
9. I suspect the blowback is going to bury this one before it gets anywhere.
Thu May 17, 2012, 11:38 AM
May 2012

As well it should. But it is amazing that even the wing nuts would think they can get away with something like this in 2012.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
21. Steal a page from Rove ... find a Fundy who will make ads saving that Mormonism is a cult ...
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:03 PM
May 2012

while claiming that if you vote for a cultist, you go straight to hell.

Help promote that theological dilemma among the crazies. They only respond to fear, might as well give them something to be afraid of.



NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
15. They are severely "misunderestimating" if they think
Thu May 17, 2012, 11:50 AM
May 2012

the Obama team will not fight back extremely aggressively. This isn't 2004 (or 1988 for that matter).

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
20. Obama saw the fried chicken, watermelon and pimp photos EARLY in the game...
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:01 PM
May 2012

...he's smart enough to have gotten where he is right now, and smart enough to know that the intensity level of the racism and unfounded attacks is going to go through the roof.

I look at it the same way I looked at having my tonsils out, at age 26. Having your tonsils removed as an adult is no walk in the park. They give you a "fact sheet" that tells you that you will be in pain following the surgery, but by the third day, you can expect that pain to significantly increase. Mine did, it was excruciating. I had to grind my pain pills into fine powder and put them in fruit juice.

So whatever pain candidate Obama experienced in 2008 is going to be like that tonsillectomy. In 2012, it most certainly is going to increase...significantly.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
24. Exactly, and on top of that...
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:18 PM
May 2012

however much he might be "No Drama Obama", he is a tough campaigner and has a very savvy team. They were really on top of everything McCain and the Repubs threw at them in 2008.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
25. "Ask Osama bin Laden whether I engage in appeasement."
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:22 PM
May 2012

I think it's a perfect illustration of your comments. It's there when he needs it. He does the easygoing thing very, very well, and it might be what he's actually like in "real life." But if you poke him with a stick, he will absolutely poke you back (sometimes with a smile, other times not).

I anticipate some poking back in the days ahead.



JHB

(37,158 posts)
36. Haven't you forgotten that this is a bunch that fails upward?
Thu May 17, 2012, 04:01 PM
May 2012

Their bubble tells them this is such a nifty idea.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
22. This is going to blow up in their faces.
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:09 PM
May 2012

The Jeremiah Wright story will get about as much traction as the Birther insanity. They're insane hatred of Obama is going to come through in their adds. It's going to have the same effect that Sarah Palin's Tea-Klan rallies had the last time around. It's going to come across as the vile pure race hatred that it is.

Until now we've always thought that the people who bankrolled the GOP were the sane leading the insane. Now it appears that they've all gone insane.

The smart thing to do is not to get caught up in a debate over their adds. Just keep pushing the Bain attacks.

NatBurner

(2,640 posts)
23. i guess we're beyond the 'articulate' benchmark at this point, huh?
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:14 PM
May 2012

their pet BlackMan needs to be more than just a good speaker, he has to read a lot of books too.

extremely literate lol

wtf does that even mean?

and i'm hereby boycotting td ameritrade (which is pretty easy since i don't use them anyway)

Jazzgirl

(3,744 posts)
29. The funny thing is using the term "metrosexual, black Abe Lincoln"
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:59 PM
May 2012

already says they really aren't that intelligent. It's a stupid term. Also, this is sooooo 2007.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
40. I gther that would be someone who led the country through a war
Thu May 17, 2012, 05:22 PM
May 2012

that ended up freeing the urban whites of the north.

If it ism't that, I couldn't tell you what they're on about.

Oldtimeralso

(1,937 posts)
30. Important info on Joe Ricketts
Thu May 17, 2012, 02:39 PM
May 2012

Joe Ricketts and his family are the owners of the Chicago Cubs!

I think that every good Democrat should boycott the Chicago Cubs and write to your TV or cable provider and tell them why.

Just remember losers support losers
The Cubs can have a bad century or two like any team!

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
32. Remember when we just ignored Jeremiah Wright and Barack Obama in 2008?
Thu May 17, 2012, 02:42 PM
May 2012

And by "ignored," I mean "covered incessantly for six weeks"?

JHB

(37,158 posts)
35. If they do hire an"extremely literate conservative" A-A...
Thu May 17, 2012, 03:57 PM
May 2012

...she can tell them the word they wanted to use was "eloquent".

la la

(1,855 posts)
38. shammity had edward klein on last night...
Thu May 17, 2012, 05:03 PM
May 2012

with the beginnings of this crap--of course, from breitbart yellow 'journalists'

underpants

(182,769 posts)
41. Ricketts is backing off this as fast as possible -- well THAT took less than a day
Thu May 17, 2012, 06:07 PM
May 2012

After hours of backlash from both Republicans and Democrats, Ricketts, commissioner of the ad campaign and founder of the brokerage firm TD Ameritrade -- and whose family owns the Chicago Cubs baseball team -- said the plan was merely one of several proposals his group was considering.

Brian Baker, who heads the conservative super PAC supported by Ricketts, said Ricketts would not approve the scheme, as it "reflects an approach to politics that Mr. Ricketts rejects."


http://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/17/politics/anti-obama-ad/

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
43. LOL "reflects an approach to politics that Mr. Ricketts rejects."
Thu May 17, 2012, 06:37 PM
May 2012

Bullshit. Ricketts must have 1, or possibly 2 people in his circle of jerks, that told him "THIS IS A LOSING APPROACH." Not because it is vile and racist but because even they understand it will backfire and RMoney is going to lose.

RMoney is going to lose anyway, but don't tell this old fuck that yet. Let him poor more $$$ into a different "More mild racist" approach. LOL

boblisa

(1 post)
45. I'm out of Ameritrade, and left owned stock trading companies?
Thu May 17, 2012, 10:36 PM
May 2012

I'm closing my accounts at Ameritrade first thing in the morning. No more support for Mr. Ricketts. Anyone know if any of the other online brokers are owned by left leaning individuals>

crazylikafox

(2,754 posts)
46. I'd like to do the same thing. I have an IRA there.
Thu May 17, 2012, 11:00 PM
May 2012

But don't want to give my money to another company just like them. I doubt there are many (if any) left leaning online brokers, but I'd settle for one that at least doesn't spend their billions (partially earned with my money) trying to buy their own right-wing politicians.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
48. I'm very happy with Vanguard
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:08 AM
May 2012

great website and customer service. I have no idea who owns it or anything.
I have two IRAs there and another joint account with my husband.
These are not tied to an employer. They are self-opened accounts since I was self-employed and my husband's work offers no retirement.

Things are down now in the market, but if you have faith things will rise over the long term, now would be a good time to buy IMO.

Edit to add: here is a wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vanguard_Group

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
50. Well, let's see. You've got Herman the Pimp, Allen "ALL DUMMYCRATS IS COMMIES" West,
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:01 AM
May 2012

and Michael "That's Radar Love, Baby" Steele.

Yeah, you guys are fucked.

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