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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,148 posts)
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 07:51 AM Jul 2015

Let's not forget Trump's quote was not only about McCain.

"I like people who weren't captured."

While he was directing his comment in context towards McCain, his comment stung towards anyone who may have been captured on the battlefield.

So regardless of what one might think about John McCain or the GOP, it's just a completely shitty thing to say.

It fits Trump's M.O. though. He's always talking about "winners" and "losers."

He'll happily identify himself as a "winner" despite having multiple business failures over his career. I guess being able to insulate his own personal wealth while thousands of his employees lost their jobs makes him a "winner" in his own mind.

And anyone who dares to cross his path will inevitably be identified as a "loser" by Trump on his rambling Twitter feed.

So in Trump's idiotic, feeble little mind, servicemen who manage to avoid capture might be the winners. Those who are captured and held as POWs, however, are the losers.

Donald Trump is a horrible, horrible human being.

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Let's not forget Trump's quote was not only about McCain. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2015 OP
Trump ignored jury duty; he got draft deferments and despises those who fought muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #1
It both worries and enlightens me skepticscott Jul 2015 #3
You said it. The movie, "Idiocracy" is looking more and more like a documentary with each catbyte Jul 2015 #12
Why I support Trump's comments about McCain AverageGuy Jul 2015 #16
But Trump doesn't care about those nameless servicemen either. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2015 #17
In that sense, Trump was right..McCain has not done skepticscott Jul 2015 #18
I wonder what he thinks about those killed. Renew Deal Jul 2015 #2
Or what he thinks of those injured vankuria Jul 2015 #5
Good point. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2015 #19
Meglomanic! Chasstev365 Jul 2015 #4
Trump is as uncapable of understanding the realities of warfare and combat as sarge43 Jul 2015 #6
Reactionary aggression is all he has. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #15
He's a genuine Republican! dmosh42 Jul 2015 #7
In my mind, dpatbrown Jul 2015 #8
Are you still anti-war? awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #20
Yes, dpatbrown Jul 2015 #23
The logic is: the only good soldier is a dead one! ananda Jul 2015 #9
He would consider Bob Dole as a looser and Bill Clinton, Limbaugh and all the rightwing draft LiberalArkie Jul 2015 #10
"loser". Trumps lips are looser than a fat goose's anus. nt. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2015 #11
I've started calling him 'the mouth' oldandhappy Jul 2015 #13
Winers, losers. Trump would fit in with ancient Sparta: '(Come home) With your shield - or ON it'. FailureToCommunicate Jul 2015 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #21
rest assured, the GOP is working on a 'Donald Solution' HFRN Jul 2015 #22

muriel_volestrangler

(101,264 posts)
1. Trump ignored jury duty; he got draft deferments and despises those who fought
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 07:58 AM
Jul 2015
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-report-jury-duty-5-summonses-article-1.2273062

n that conversation Trump did not mention he also received several deferments.
According to his Selective Service records, first obtained by the website The Smoking Gun through a Freedom of Information Act request, Trump received four student deferments between 1964 and 1968 while in college and an additional medical deferment after graduating.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-vietnam-draft-records-secret-documents-deferments/story?id=13492639

He's a man who thinks 'service' is something that other people have to do, for him, whether routine or life-threatening. He could be the worst person possible to be put forward as a presidential candidate. I think I'd even credit Sarah Palin with a better sense of duty than him.
 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
3. It both worries and enlightens me
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 08:35 AM
Jul 2015

to see how many people actually think he's wonderful and would love to have him as president. Helps me understand why this country is so totally fucked up...there are just simply lots of abysmally stupid people here.

catbyte

(34,328 posts)
12. You said it. The movie, "Idiocracy" is looking more and more like a documentary with each
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jul 2015

passing day, and that is terrifying.

 

AverageGuy

(80 posts)
16. Why I support Trump's comments about McCain
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:05 AM
Jul 2015

I am a Vietnam era veteran who is not a supporter of Donald Trump, but I do not like the way the other Republican candidates are piling on him because of his comments about Senator McCain. I will now give my viewpoint.

Senator McCain is a hero, but is no more so then the 1000's of nameless American servicemen who were also captured, and did not have a four-star admiral as a father. They did not get the hype and come home to a hero's welcome the way McCain did. They, and countless wounded Vietnam veterans, came home anonymously with no celebration, and little or no care for their wounds, both physical and mental. Too many ended up homeless in the streets, they did not end up going to the United States Senate. Rather then using his position in the Senate, making sure those Vietnam veterans got the care they earned, as you think he would, he was meeting with federal regulators to discuss and influence the government's investigation of the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,148 posts)
17. But Trump doesn't care about those nameless servicemen either.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:10 AM
Jul 2015

Read the quote again.

It was contemptible, inexcusable verbal diarrhea from Donald Trump.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
18. In that sense, Trump was right..McCain has not done
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jul 2015

what he in particular, but all members of Congress should have done in supporting wounded and traumatized veterans (not the least of which being that they should stop trying to make more of them). Of course, Trump doesn't really give a ratfuck about veterans either, it's just a convenient talking point for him, but frankly it does resonate with some people who think McCain has milked his veteran/POW status for far more credit and political currency than it merits.

Renew Deal

(81,844 posts)
2. I wonder what he thinks about those killed.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 08:17 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:41 AM - Edit history (1)

I think your post is correct. I don't know how much of his shtick he believes and how much is just rambling. He likes to personally counterpunch any attacker, even if they are not a direct competitor. Remember, McCain isn't running for anything.

vankuria

(904 posts)
5. Or what he thinks of those injured
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:02 AM
Jul 2015

also, how many other groups he can offend this week? Perhaps the elderly, the disabled, the poor or anyone who isn't a millionaire?

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
4. Meglomanic!
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 08:48 AM
Jul 2015

He's become the "Howard Stern" of this election cycle: a "ShockPol" who keeps saying outrageous things to keep him at the forefront of the race. For us on the left, he's the gift that keeps giving. A heartfelt thanks Donald: how many more voters can you alienate?

sarge43

(28,940 posts)
6. Trump is as uncapable of understanding the realities of warfare and combat as
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:07 AM
Jul 2015

an amoeba this thread. He can't think in any meaningful way; he merely reacts.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
15. Reactionary aggression is all he has.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:50 AM
Jul 2015

"Reaction" - in general - would be too generous a word to describe Trump's modus operandi.

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
8. In my mind,
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:20 AM
Jul 2015

McCain isn't much better. As an anti-war student back in the 60's, I didn't see anyone who was fighting in the war as a hero. McCain dropped bombs(before being captured) on many, many innocent people. People like David Harris ( who elected to go to prison instead of fighting in an illegal war), he was a hero.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
20. Are you still anti-war?
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:34 PM
Jul 2015

I think it is more about the hypocrisy of people like Trump- people who want war but did everything to avoid going themselves

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
10. He would consider Bob Dole as a looser and Bill Clinton, Limbaugh and all the rightwing draft
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:29 AM
Jul 2015

evaders as winners. Those ho didn't have the money or influence to buy their way out of the draft are losers in their mindset. Just as those kids who come out of college with massive debts are losers to them also.

I liked how some of the very rich men from my hometown treated their boys when they got out of public high school (in the 60's). These were oil men who made it themselves. Before their kids got any money, trust fund, college money they had to go and do roughneck work for the summer. I did not know why as a kid, but I believe it was to teach them humility and how the other people had to work. Not much of that is done any more.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,006 posts)
14. Winers, losers. Trump would fit in with ancient Sparta: '(Come home) With your shield - or ON it'.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:39 AM
Jul 2015

Actually, he probably wouldn't last one week in ancient Sparta.

Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
22. rest assured, the GOP is working on a 'Donald Solution'
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:03 PM
Jul 2015

the comment on McCain (a guy I'm not fond of, but I do respect veterans as a group) crossed the line from extremist to just plain troll

it cannot be more clear to the GOP that Trump is nothing more than a blowhard who is busting up his own party out of spite

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