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They forget what evolution is. Evolution is a struggled to survive, where one has to adapt or die.
So when candidates say they evolved on an issue, it means that they had to have pressure put them them to change or be devoured.
I apply pressure, because it reinforces the traits we desire, and culls those to stupid to evolve. the vast majority of our elites need to be guided to their proper place in the food chain, which is to say, the chewed up and digested poop that at least keeps the ground fertile.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Who wants show after show the tRump and other 'stories'. When MSNBC went full time on the shooting tonight I checked the first minute and last minute of each hour and news was the same.
DU is much quicker and frequently much newsier.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)when I got divorced and moved into my own place.
The only news I hear on the radio is NPR, and only when my alarm goes off in the morning. I've always known to take the MSM with a grain of salt.
For 15 years my news has come from various print sources and sources, and ALL with a grain, or more, of salt.
Every source can be corrupt and/or biased; I don't need to spend the time watching and listening to people trying to tell me what to think, though. I can scan headlines, choose those I want to know about, and read, and analyze for bias, in a small fraction of the time others spend listening to the MSM beat them over the head with bullshit over and over and over.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)that accomplishes nothing.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)It's called growing.
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)But I suppose it will do- people don't need to actually change their minds for it to be a positive contribution to a movement- they just need to be quiet about it.
merrily
(45,251 posts)It's not always true though, When politicians say it, it sometimes means "I've long believed X, but it may have hurt me to say I believes X. Now, it may hurt me to say I believe Y, so I'll finally say I believe X. But, I can't say I've believed it for a long time."
Igel
(35,359 posts)An individual, in biology, cannot evolve. It can only reproduce successfully or fail to reproduce.
We view evolution as telic--there's a goal towards "better" not just to "better adapted to one's environment". If humans have evolved, we assume we evolved from inferior to superior. Not just "better adapted to our environment."
In other words, first we misunderstand and misconstrue. Then we misapply. That's fine for language--how it changes is not grounded in fundamental properties of nature, but in human interactions--but it pays to be clear that we're not using the biological meaning any more. We've appleid a quasi-moral or religious sense to it. (We also view religions as evolving from worse to better.)
When someone says they've evolved they usually mean "I've gotten better in terms of my morality or my politics". It can mean because of pressure, in which case they're using the word to manipulate ("I don't really care about good or bad like you use the terms, I care about keeping or losing position and power" . Often the politicians stil view themselves as less cynical than we view them, and often view themselves as superior sorts of beings guiding us lesser folk. They're the wise shepherd, the philospher king.
Mostly when people say "they've evolved" it just means they've changed their minds and want to present it as an improvement. That's often because of experiences apart from the "managed evolution" that you think you perform a public service in doing (one manages one's inferiors, after all), sometimes those experiences are just increased sympathy or empathy or more knowledge. Often it's from social pressure to conform, and it just took us time to find justification. Often it's from self-interest, and it took time to find a justification we could stomach. Because few of us like to think we devolve, pretty much any change that we undergo that doesn't gobsmack us with its awfulness is "evolution" (and changes that are awful we find ways to blame on others).
0rganism
(23,971 posts)there's at least 2 generations that have grown up thinking evolution is when your pikachu transforms ("evolves" into a raichu.
^ NOT EVOLUTION^
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)people or candidates evolving during a campaign.
When elected they will probably devolve again.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Science adopted 'evolution' for its biological meaning. The older and still common use of the word is developing gradually, often but not always with the implication that it is developing into something better.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"So when candidates say they evolved on an issue, it means that they had to have pressure put them..."
It seems a most accurate and specific word within the parameters of one of the definitions given. I'm pretty sure many words exist that have multiple meanings (i.e., the homonym, homographs, etc). As this particular word appears to have two meanings associated with it that are specifically targeted towards the sciences, it seems your flaw is predicating your dislike of its use on only the definition associated with science.
2. to develop gradually
4. to come forth gradually into being; develop; undergo evolution:
"The whole idea evolved from a casual remark."
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)... at least has the merit of being correct.
Evolution tries to establish the premise that you were right before... and still right now.