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That's my people!
Here's a classic for you.
A Dirty story of the starship Enterprise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=bJjQGfqoDqM
Remember where we came from.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portmeirion
The Prisoner
In 1966–1967, McGoohan returned to Portmeirion to film exteriors for The Prisoner, a surreal spy drama in which Portmeirion itself played a starring role as "The Village", in which McGoohan's retired intelligence agent, known only as "Number 6", was incarcerated and interrogated, albeit in pleasant surroundings. On request from Williams-Ellis, Portmeirion was not identified on screen as the filming location until the credits of the final episode of the series, and indeed Williams-Ellis stated that the levy of an entrance fee was a deliberate ploy to prevent the village from being spoilt by overcrowding. The show, broadcast on ITV in the UK during the Autumn of 1967 and CBS in the United States in the Summer of 1968, became a cult classic, and fans continue to visit Portmeirion, which hosts annual Prisoner fan conventions. The building that was used as the lead character's home in the series currently operates as a Prisoner-themed souvenir shop. Many of the locations used in The Prisoner are virtually unchanged after more than 40 years.
We started out as "Trekkies", but that became considered juvenile and derogatory, so it morphed into "Trekkers", and even "TrekFen" ("fen" being the plural of "fan"
. I am old enough to call myself a Trekkie without shame. Hell, I remember when Trek fandom was scorned by the "hard" sci-fi crowd. I am even old enough to remember when it was "sci-fi" and not "speculative fiction", and the SciFi channel wasn't called "Siffy".
(How hard core is my TrekFu? Just tonight I affixed a 6 foot long vinyl of the Enterprise (the real one, not that redesigned monstrosity from TNG) to my bedroom wall.
My cat was greatly perplexed.
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B025oqs3qllxrS
The new BSG lacked the overall scope and scale b5 had.
In B5 on the other hand, the oldest beings in a universe full of them, fought a 2 sided war of ideology that literally threatened to destroy...pretty much the entirety of civilization in the known universe. "Who are you?". "What do you want?". Huge scope and scale. Diverse universe with many beliefs. I particularly liked the Brakiri Day of the Dead, and especially G'kars transformation from a hurt angry formerly repressed Narn, to a thoughtful respected voice of wisdom and clarity. And the tragedy of Londo Molari, and of the Centauri Republic. And lorien. Who can forget lorien, born immortal of an immortal race.
The vorlons and the shadows were nothing short of epic. 'toasters'? For me they were meh. I liked the original cylons better lol. That and I missed john Colicos (rip) as Baltar. I never liked how they rewrote BSG at all, but then, I prefer canon, as opposed to freestyle rewrites. I prefer 'telling the same story but telling it better' to 'telling a different story and reusing a name'.
The new BSG left me feeling the same way as this:
Right name, wrong content - in my view.
should have mailed in his resignation, AFTER skipping the country. Ah well...
"The Prisoner" I think was something of a sequel to "Danger Man" (in the US "Secret Agent Man" one of the more intelligent spy shows of the era.
I enjoyed it. 
I may, indeed, be crazy of course. 
Another one maybe not worthy of the list but very enjoyable to watch. 
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And it didn't make the list, either. 
Bogus list. 
some of the themes reflected the current culture. and it isn't even fair to compare 60's and 90's (or whatever) technical effect. even still, i would rather watch kirk and spock anyday over the tng gang. and i think the campy-ness was part of the fun
i mean, a piece of the action? c.mon....
The Way To Eden
It took me a while until I watched my first TNG and it was, wouldn't you know, it was 'The Best of Both Worlds'.
It blew me away! Now I love TNG better than any of them. edit: I was pissed off that I had to wait until the beginnng of the next season ( all summer), but it was worth it.
from what i did see they did a good job of character development. i just didn't end up liking any of them.i couldn't make the switch. same thing with bg. my SO thought the world of the new bg but i never wanted to watch.
guess i'm an old fart...
I think the old SNL spoiled the OS for me...their remake in the 70's. I don't know, there still may be under 10 episodes out of three years that I still like (but don't ask me what they were).
On second thought that wasn't a T.V. program.
Thanks for the thread, Liberal_in_LA.
Everything happened because magic and because the magicful island was the most specialist times of their lives. Then, heaven.
Fricken LOST. I'll never love again!!
1. "Threshold"
Referred to unfondly as "the salamander episode," "Threshold" mindlessly mines a trio of NextGen tropes to cobble together a final concept that's flat-out awful. Tom Paris thinks he's found a way to break the Warp 10 barrier (Wesley Crusher in "Where No One Has Gone Before"
, and demands to test the concept on a modified shuttle despite every medical and technical reason not to. Janeway lets him, the test apparently fails, and then Tom wakes up allergic to water. Apparently he's rapidly evolving into a new life form (Geordi in "Identity Crisis" , then violently claims Janeway as his mate (Worf with Troi in "Genesis" whom he kidnaps to a remote planet. When Voyager finally catches up, Paris and Janeway have not only become weird giant pink salamanders, they've bred three baby lizard-lings already. The Doctor cures the crew members, but leaves Paris and Janeway's "kids" on the planet to live out their lonely, inbred lives. An episode so blandly bad that producer Brannon Braga called it a "royal, steaming stinker." Don't cross this "Threshold", cross it off your list.
Cheers!
I think it's one of the most straight-faced portrayals of secret interstellar alien invasion that has ever been made. Quinn Martin ("The Fugitive", "Streets of San Francisco", "The FBI"", "Barnaby Jones" produced it. And it looks just like a crime procedural drama from that time.
a burning cigar on a string ....great sci fi .
