Why are there so many threads about Zimmerman's head wounds

[Fawke Em]

and very little - if any - mention of the fact that the autopsy report says that Trayvon Martin was shot from an "intermediate range?'

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/16/11736208-trayvon-martin-killed-by-single-gunshot-fired-from-intermediate-range-autopsy-shows?lite

It seems to me that this information is far more important in adjudicating the case. That Zimmerman stalked Trayvon, who then, ahem, "stood his ground," by standing up to his stalker is somewhat relevant; however, I find it more relevant that Trayvon wasn't shot at point blank range.

If he was on top of Zimmerman when he was shot, as Zimmerman claims, then the bullet wound would reflect a much closer angle. Not so.

Was Trayvon attempting to stop the fight and leave when he was shot? "Intermediate range" would suggest so.

[riverwalker]

1. agree

if Trayvon was on top, and shot in the left ventricle, there would be buckets of blood on Zimmerman. There was none.

[Meiko]

7. Not necessarily

not all gun shot wounds produce copious amounts of blood. There are several factors involved.However, Trayvon was suppose to have been involved in a fist fight, a fight which would have raised his BP and heart rate. You would think that a chest wound would have bleed like crazy.

[coalition_unwilling]

2. Excellent question. Makes me think possibly Martin had punched

Zimmerman to the ground and Zimmerman shot Martin as he walked or ran away.

If Martin was backing up from Zimmerman (while continuing to face him), the bullet's entrance would be in the front.

As for why there are so many threads, seems to me defenders of Zimmerman are using the head wounds as a sort of latter-day stigmata, to cast Zimmerman as the righteous victim\martyr here (while ignoring the reality that Martin lies dead). As you rightly note, the head wounds are irrelevant to the question of where the shooter and victim were in relation to one another when the shooting took place.

[fascisthunter]

3. it's obvious

and sickening... it's all about gun carrying. Most of those in the gungeon are the ones defending Zim.

[yellerpup]

4. Those marks on the back of his head

are not in the least exculpatory, IMO. He could have banged his head into a tree or slipped and fell after he shot his young victim. He doesn't claim to have been attacked from the rear, the victim was shot in the chest from at least an arm's length away. Nope, just doesn't add up. He stalked and killed a visitor to his neighborhood who had every right to be there after the police told him to let them handle it.

[Fawke Em]

8. I've certainly had worse wounds after hiking.

I didn't find them life-threatening and I didn't pull a gun out on the tree that scratched me or the rock I tripped over.

[yellerpup]

10. Exactly.

I weren't out stalking the flora or minerals, either. This asshat had a gun and was dying to use it. He's an attention whore and now a murderer.

[PoliticAverse]

5. An intermediate range gunshot..can range from just beyond the 12-inch range out to 24 to 36 inches.

"An intermediate range gunshot, like that seen in the above image, can range from just beyond the 12-inch range out to 24 to 36 inches. This depends greatly upon the caliber, barrel length and powder type used in the ammunition"

From: http://www.firearmsid.com/A_distanceResults.htm

[Fawke Em]

9. If they were still embraced in a struggle, then Trayvon

was much closer than 12 inches.

If they were no longer struggling and Trayvon had backed off from Zimmerman a foot or a yard, then there was nothing "life-threatening."

[Union Scribe]

12. Interesting, thanks for that. nt

[Blue_Tires]

6. Certain people are celebrating because they think it exonerates their boy

Funny how some posters have been completely absent from any discussion of the case at all, but all of a sudden are all over GD/LBN and not even trying to hide the giddyness

Mods need to do a mega-merge of all this shit

[belcffub]

14. I waited until I had a full picture

which this last dump of data gave me... before then there were two many unknowns...

could my opinion change... absolutely if something new comes out... zimmerman is an idiot who should have stayed in the car... prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he murdered martin... please... I just don't see it with the current information known....

[Blue_Tires]

15. I'll only have the "full picture" when I get an explanation of why he followed Martin

and when his "official" statement of the events of that night -- if the police are competent in the least, they will have taken a statement, and I want to see how consistent it is...

[belcffub]

16. like I said I am willing to change my opinion

my problem is the difference between legally and morally responisble... morally 100%... legally I just don't see it...

and I would love to read his official statement... I wonder why it wasn't in this weeks data dump...

[kestrel91316]

11. Because there are so many RW GZ apologists here who can't keep their

liberal masks from slipping over this topic.

[Life Long Dem]

13. I think the relevence lays in

whether you would defend yourself from a broken nose. The close range is not favorable to Trayvon.

[just1voice]

17. Why? Why is there no real media, just propaganda and sales pitches?

Because American media likes to jerk people around for PROFIT. People respond to propaganda with ill-informed opinions they didn't even think of themselves and pretend they are discussing reality.