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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:18 PM May 2012

Angry ex-wife puts hate for husband on display




SUPERIOR, Wis. - It's not unusual for a divorce to end in anger.

But a woman who lives in Superior, Wisconsin took things to a new level this week with a traffic-stopping gesture that was carried out at the expense of her ex-husband.

The angry former spouse put all her ex-mate's belongings out on the front lawn with signs reading "Free" and "X-Husband Sale."

As if that wasn't enough, she flatted the tires of the man's SUV and spray painted the truck with the word "Cheater" in block letters.


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http://www.kare11.com/news/article/976434/391/Angry-ex-wife-puts-hate-for-husband-on-display--

Hope she gets some therapy
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Angry ex-wife puts hate for husband on display (Original Post) n2doc May 2012 OP
OTOH, it appears she isn't suppressing anything and got it all out of her system n/t Sheepshank May 2012 #1
EXACTLY CatWoman May 2012 #2
That is the opposite of therapy. What she did will make her worse. ZombieHorde May 2012 #31
While I agree with you, BlueToTheBone May 2012 #34
How will it make it worse Aerows May 2012 #66
People who dwell on the negative and "vent" are more likely to become angrier in the future. ZombieHorde May 2012 #68
Okay Aerows May 2012 #70
She isn't dwelling obamanut2012 May 2012 #74
The therapist would be going against the common findings of scientific studies on the subject. ZombieHorde May 2012 #77
I know of several therapists who would disagree obamanut2012 May 2012 #81
I would enjoy hearing their argument against the studies. ZombieHorde May 2012 #83
I felt a hell of a lot better, and am still Aerows May 2012 #88
Actually, it is closer to a study of one than empirical evidence. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #100
I'm no dr., but I disagree. It wasn't violence....it was getting rid of him, figuratively, Honeycombe8 May 2012 #114
Not everyone finds peered reviewed studies to be very convincing, I guess. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #115
Actually, what she did WAS considered therapeutic obamanut2012 May 2012 #73
If peer-reviewed studies influence your opinions, check this out... ZombieHorde May 2012 #75
What studies? lunatica May 2012 #106
Finding free, peer reviewed studies can be time consuming, but here is one... ZombieHorde May 2012 #116
This isn't therapy mythology May 2012 #67
She is changing her life, she's getting cash out of the jackass. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #109
And the best thing about it is that it's all marital property Fawke Em May 2012 #3
It appears to be just her property Major Nikon May 2012 #30
How about domestic violence against you as well? Darth_Kitten May 2012 #110
I doubt it's all out of her system LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #18
What to you think the Divorce proceeding will look like? demosincebirth May 2012 #25
According to the article the divorce is already finalized Major Nikon May 2012 #27
Why is it not healthy? leftynyc May 2012 #43
Fires are dangerous, just ask Lisa "Left-eye" Lopes. hughee99 May 2012 #45
Good God LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #47
It was her property as per her divorce obamanut2012 May 2012 #78
It didn't specify that in the article LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #93
That's not a "new level" of anger. I've seen it happen before. Solly Mack May 2012 #4
I for one am positive the woman the man was cheating with was single.. Fumesucker May 2012 #5
O I dunno abelenkpe May 2012 #28
All my ex's live in Texas Life Long Dem May 2012 #6
Hardly a new level Horse with no Name May 2012 #7
Yepper! blueamy66 May 2012 #8
Amen Aerows May 2012 #24
^^^This nt laundry_queen May 2012 #85
From article: "Superior police decided to tow the GMC Yukon away" WTF? based on what law? Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #9
Yeah, that's what you get for cheating Aerows May 2012 #10
Yes you are worth it. Horse with no Name May 2012 #14
Sounds like they sent out the right cop. JNelson6563 May 2012 #17
This guy was an abuser Horse with no Name May 2012 #20
Mine struck me once Aerows May 2012 #21
I'm glad you got away too! JNelson6563 May 2012 #22
Me too, JN Aerows May 2012 #23
I'm glad you made it out too! JNelson6563 May 2012 #42
It was screwed up Aerows May 2012 #48
And that is what it is...the most hurtful form of disrespect. Horse with no Name May 2012 #65
I'm just generous Aerows May 2012 #80
Thanks! Horse with no Name May 2012 #64
Cheating is abuse. Fawke Em May 2012 #97
We both are Aerows May 2012 #19
If some guy had done this to his cheating ex-wife he'd probably be in jail. Zalatix May 2012 #11
I'm female and did it to a female Aerows May 2012 #12
How does that invalidate the posters claim? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #51
LOL Aerows May 2012 #63
"If you don't understand why".. that's a copout, come on now. Zalatix May 2012 #94
People seem to think destruction of other property is OK MattBaggins May 2012 #101
If the genders were reversed 4th law of robotics May 2012 #117
Bullshit. n/t Horse with no Name May 2012 #13
He certainly wouldn't be getting cheered on here. Union Scribe May 2012 #15
He'd be a creep, a psychopath, a monster that you hide your kids from Zalatix May 2012 #95
lol. yes, we as a society love cheating wives La Lioness Priyanka May 2012 #16
On what charge? leftynyc May 2012 #44
Vandalism, destruction of property, etc 4th law of robotics May 2012 #53
It's not vandalism if it's marital property. Fawke Em May 2012 #57
It was legally HER property obamanut2012 May 2012 #82
If it was her property, then she has issues Art_from_Ark May 2012 #98
Right, because cheaters deserve understanding women. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #112
Was it? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #119
The sympathy here would definitely be subdued 4th law of robotics May 2012 #52
So you condone cheating Aerows May 2012 #69
Do you think a scorned lover should have the right to . . . 4th law of robotics May 2012 #118
Hard to imagine how this marriage ended in divorce Major Nikon May 2012 #26
Yes, with all the love, intimacy and lack of any dysfunctional behaviors, KurtNYC May 2012 #129
I'm not a professional, but I am sensing some hostility here. Nye Bevan May 2012 #29
...and wading through the junk on the lawn. JHB May 2012 #36
Oh I hope that catches on as a phrase. Robb May 2012 #50
Exactly :D Aerows May 2012 #72
Hostility usually happens when you cheat Aerows May 2012 #71
lol woolldog May 2012 #127
This might be therapy for the offended spouse, but will work against her in a court of law. Ikonoklast May 2012 #32
She waited until the divorce was final. nt TBF May 2012 #35
Was the ex-husband given the chance to remove the property from the premises? Ikonoklast May 2012 #37
I suppose we see what we want to see... LanternWaste May 2012 #49
Cheating on one's spouse doesn't come into play very much in divorce proceedings. Ikonoklast May 2012 #54
Maybe not where you live, but I filed a fault divorce Fawke Em May 2012 #59
Exactly -- fault divorce for adultery and it can be proved? obamanut2012 May 2012 #86
Exactly. I was a stay-at-home Mom Fawke Em May 2012 #96
It was her property as per the divorce settlement obamanut2012 May 2012 #84
The article isn't clear about that. ronnie624 May 2012 #99
Don't agree that it's 'hate'. Just plain anger over being cheated on. sinkingfeeling May 2012 #33
+1 whathehell May 2012 #58
My husband's ex-wife did this. bluedeminredstate May 2012 #38
That's nasty..... Darth_Kitten May 2012 #113
I get the feeling this may not be a first cheating incident. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2012 #40
I think the story should be about how the police stole their suv. jp11 May 2012 #41
Sounds like somebody has been listening to the radio. davsand May 2012 #46
Supposedly men and women cheat in roughly the same amounts and yet you rarely 4th law of robotics May 2012 #55
Two reasons... Fawke Em May 2012 #60
You point B) could explain the discrepancy in your point A). 4th law of robotics May 2012 #122
They weren't supposed to be continuous points, but Fawke Em May 2012 #131
Of course they do obamanut2012 May 2012 #87
Okay, my experience laundry_queen May 2012 #92
Those seem like very plausible reasons 4th law of robotics May 2012 #121
Are there statistics on that? treestar May 2012 #107
Just something I read once upon a time 4th law of robotics May 2012 #120
I would think one could find stories of men destroying treestar May 2012 #123
Possibly some 4th law of robotics May 2012 #124
Seem to be according to what standard? treestar May 2012 #125
My personal observation 4th law of robotics May 2012 #126
"Take it somewhere else, Buster" - Message from George Will's first wife. yellowcanine May 2012 #56
LOL Buster! LOL lonestarnot May 2012 #76
Wow Gore1FL May 2012 #61
That looks pretty therapeutic to me. EFerrari May 2012 #62
Seems quite idiotic to me. MrSlayer May 2012 #79
You are blaming the cheating on the cheated-upon wife? obamanut2012 May 2012 #89
No. Just speculating. MrSlayer May 2012 #91
She is an idiot. Costs him and herself money. Dumb! Logical May 2012 #90
At least it wasn't 5 flats........n/t Jello Biafra May 2012 #102
At least she didn't drive the car into a lake with their kids strapped in KurtNYC May 2012 #130
That's very juvenile behavior for someone who is old enough to be married slackmaster May 2012 #103
What I find somewhat... 99Forever May 2012 #104
This message was self-deleted by its author Dash87 May 2012 #105
If he's the cheater and louse, he should get the therapy. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #108
I'd be furious too. The cheater exposes his/her SO to incurable STDs, HIV etc riderinthestorm May 2012 #111
She needs to get a freakin' life. Bake May 2012 #128

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
31. That is the opposite of therapy. What she did will make her worse.
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:34 PM
May 2012

Many people think this is emotionally beneficial for the person venting, but studies have shown this type of behavior actually escalates the hard feelings.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
34. While I agree with you,
Fri May 18, 2012, 03:08 PM
May 2012

it also seems that she didn't want to work it out. I think the "cheater" statement was her bottom line.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
66. How will it make it worse
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:59 PM
May 2012

if you are at the end of a relationship, and clearly this one is at the end - I know, I had one where I did something similar - it is cathartic to end it.

No vacillating. No "I'll take you back, if..." when it is clear it is time for it to end. That happens the second a partner cheats for me. You might be different, or you might be a cheater, I don't know you and won't assume.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
68. People who dwell on the negative and "vent" are more likely to become angrier in the future.
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:05 PM
May 2012

In one of my college classes, the professor called it "practicing anger." If you don't learn to control your anger, there is a good chance your anger will control you. (not just you, all of us)

Here is one study on the effects of "ruminating" about a person one is angry with...
http://illinois.edu/lb/files/2009/03/26/9293.pdf

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
70. Okay
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:17 PM
May 2012

Well, I vented, and I felt a hell of a lot better, and I'm still proud of myself to this day.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
74. She isn't dwelling
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:25 PM
May 2012

I know from experience a therapist would tell her (or him, if this was a man), this is not only NOT unhealthy, but is a positive thing to do, as long as this is "it."

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
81. I know of several therapists who would disagree
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:28 PM
May 2012

As well as several divorced men and women, including myself.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
83. I would enjoy hearing their argument against the studies.
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:30 PM
May 2012

I would especially like it if some of my old professors were present for the purpose of debate. That would be really, really fun for me.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
88. I felt a hell of a lot better, and am still
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:36 PM
May 2012

proud of myself to this day. That's not a study, that's empirical evidence.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
114. I'm no dr., but I disagree. It wasn't violence....it was getting rid of him, figuratively,
Sat May 19, 2012, 11:00 AM
May 2012

and definitely, so she can move on. In her mind. she took a little dignity with her, possibly.

My concern, however, is that she'll end up paying for it financially. She didn't have a right to get rid of his personal belongings, or even his SUV, even if it was the community property SUV. He'll be able to get compensation for all that stuff.

I destroyed property of ex many years ago...property that had been paid for with my hard working dollars. I felt it gave me an outlet for anger, instead of internalizing it so much, which I still did. This happens when the ex doesn't allow you to vent to him personally. And it was only right that he didn't get to keep the property that I had paid for while he was a deadbeat.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
73. Actually, what she did WAS considered therapeutic
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:22 PM
May 2012

And odds are excellent this is what will help her heal and move on.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
75. If peer-reviewed studies influence your opinions, check this out...
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:25 PM
May 2012
http://illinois.edu/lb/files/2009/03/26/9293.pdf

If peer-reviewed studies don't influence your opinions, then don't bother.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
116. Finding free, peer reviewed studies can be time consuming, but here is one...
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:20 PM
May 2012
http://illinois.edu/lb/files/2009/03/26/9293.pdf

Does distraction or rumination work better to diffuse anger?
Catharsis theory predicts that rumination works best, but empirical
evidence is lacking. In this study, angered participants hit a
punching bag and thought about the person who had angered
them (rumination group) or thought about becoming physically
fit (distraction group). After hitting the punching bag, they
reported how angry they felt. Next, they were given the chance to
administer loud blasts of noise to the person who had angered
them. There also was a no punching bag control group. People in
the rumination group felt angrier than did people in the distraction
or control groups. People in the rumination group were also
most aggressive, followed respectively by people in the distraction
and control groups. Rumination increased rather than
decreased anger and aggression. Doing nothing at all was more
effective than venting anger. These results directly contradict
catharsis theory.
 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
67. This isn't therapy
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:00 PM
May 2012

This is utterly juvenile behavior and indicates that she might want to take a look in the mirror to see what she can change about herself. Cheating is a horrid thing to do, but so is being consumed with hatred.

Darth_Kitten

(14,192 posts)
109. She is changing her life, she's getting cash out of the jackass.
Sat May 19, 2012, 10:28 AM
May 2012

Funny how no one seems to see that maybe those on the RECEIVING end of abuse/neglect/bad treatment don't need to be reminded what they need to do to change.

So many countless jerks out there cause untold grief to people and next to nobody tells them how they need to change.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
3. And the best thing about it is that it's all marital property
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:26 PM
May 2012

so if she wants to spray paint her own car, she can.

(My ex beat up my car with me and our baby in it and he couldn't be charged with vandalism because the car was considered marital property. They did, however, pop him for domestic violence in the presence of a child.)

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
30. It appears to be just her property
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:34 PM
May 2012

Their divorce is already finalized, which means that if she still has possession of the SUV or anything else, it must be her property exclusively. So essentially she's just destroying or giving away her own property in some sort of attempt to get back at her ex. Seems more than a bit screwy to me.

Darth_Kitten

(14,192 posts)
110. How about domestic violence against you as well?
Sat May 19, 2012, 10:30 AM
May 2012

You matter, too. Sad that your baby had to witness it, of course.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
43. Why is it not healthy?
Fri May 18, 2012, 03:43 PM
May 2012

She didn't hurt herself, she didn't hurt him physically. I can't remember which movie (although I think it was Angela Bassett) where her husband left her - she emptied out his closets, dumped everything into his fancy car and set it on fire. Loved that and see nothing wrong here either.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
45. Fires are dangerous, just ask Lisa "Left-eye" Lopes.
Fri May 18, 2012, 03:51 PM
May 2012

She did something similar in her boyfriend (NFL player Andre Rison) and starting fires didn't work out so well for her.



You can't actually ask her, though, since she died in a car accident a few years later.

As for the lady in the OP, it looks like she's giving away stuff she ended up with after the divorce, which is her's to give away.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
47. Good God
Fri May 18, 2012, 04:04 PM
May 2012

My ex went to jail on a DV for bashing a hole in a door. He didn't hurt himself and he didn't hurt me physically. That doesn't make it okay.

If he had taken her stuff and given it away, or vandalized it, would it be OK? Healthy behavior? Spite and vindictiveness are not healthy, good-for-you emotions.

Incidentally, it was "Waiting to Exhale" and I didn't like it in the movie ads either. Deliberately skipped the movie for that reason. Someone else watched the movie and landed in jail. Not healthy.



LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
93. It didn't specify that in the article
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:49 PM
May 2012

the language suggested that it was still his stuff. So that was how I read it. Could be wrong.

Even if it wasn't, it still falls under the "laptop shooting" category of unhealthy emotional reactions.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
4. That's not a "new level" of anger. I've seen it happen before.
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:31 PM
May 2012

The women all felt better for it. Sort of a purging and cleansing of the soul along with the junk.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
28. O I dunno
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:30 PM
May 2012

My SIL's husband was caught cheating recently (phone bill text messages...keep an eye out) and it was with a married woman with two young kids.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
9. From article: "Superior police decided to tow the GMC Yukon away" WTF? based on what law?
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:38 PM
May 2012

The spectacle triggered enough buzz that it became a must-see stop for motorists to check it out, and even stop for pictures. It created enough of a traffic hazard that Superior police decided to tow the GMC Yukon away.

Superior Police Sgt. William Lear told the newspaper there's no law against spray painting a vehicle in one's own yard.

"If it's a running vehicle and someone wants to paint their own car, they can do it," he said.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
10. Yeah, that's what you get for cheating
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:40 PM
May 2012

I threw my ex-es shit to the curb, too. She was female, and I drained out bank account since a lot of the money came from me.

I hope she is happy now, because there is one thing I don't put up with, and I didn't make any bones about it. I don't put up with lovers that cheat.

EDIT: And I'm female, too. I will not put up with someone cheating, and there will be consequences. changed locks, shit on the street, and bank account closed.

And you know what? I'm worth it.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
14. Yes you are worth it.
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:48 PM
May 2012

Even dogs don't shit where they sleep--they know better.

I have not one iota of sympathy for a cheater that gets caught in his/her own mess.

I made a front yard bonfire with one exes crap--even his fishing gear--the next day when I discovered that I left some of his clothes in the washing machine--I burnt them too. The cop that was dispatched to my house laughed and threw a shoe in the fire that I dropped. It felt really good.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
20. This guy was an abuser
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:54 PM
May 2012

and I put up with abuse...but wasn't going to put up with cheating.

The cops took him in the backyard and beat the crap out of him once for what he did to me--so they were familiar with him.

And probably secretly glad that I finally got away from him.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. Mine struck me once
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:02 PM
May 2012

We hashed it out, but that wasn't nearly as weird as what happened later.

She had the nerve to try to get me involved with a threesome on her birthday with the woman she took up with after I consented to come to herbirthday party out of goodwill. I looked at both of them like they were out of their fucking minds (which they would have to be to ask ME for such a thing), got in my car, and haven't spoken to her since.

They aren't together now, of course, since I've heard through the grapevine that they broke up, and that is hardly surprising. Sick freaking people.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
23. Me too, JN
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:13 PM
May 2012

I think I've been blessed even though it was painful. That was SO NOT RIGHT.

OOPS: See you responded to the other poster. In any case, it is the same thing with me, glad I got out.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
48. It was screwed up
Fri May 18, 2012, 04:05 PM
May 2012

Nobody needs to live that way with a partner that doesn't respect themself, and has no ability to respect others due to that weakness.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
65. And that is what it is...the most hurtful form of disrespect.
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:35 PM
May 2012

I'm not even generous enough to call it a weakness.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
80. I'm just generous
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:28 PM
May 2012

because I got out of it before it could be worse. I won't lie - it hurt, but not nearly as badly as it would have if I would have stayed in it. Six years was too long.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
97. Cheating is abuse.
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:26 AM
May 2012

I'm sorry if he hit you, but when are we ever going to realize that emotional abuse is far worse.

I'd rather take a beating physically than be disrespected.

Cheating is abuse. It makes you feel like shit much longer than a bruise or even a broken bone.

(Not that I'm excusing or inviting physical abuse. I'm simply pointing out that cheating is emotional abuse that lasts far longer).

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. We both are
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:53 PM
May 2012

I don't put up with that crap, and anyone that sympathizes with oathbreakers - and that is what they are, people that break their oaths of loyalty, faithfulness and love - needs to examine their own behavior.

If you don't like the relationship you are in, get out of it, and pursue the new one. Don't toy with people.

Stop being a coward and make a choice to leave. It saves everyone hurt in the future if you are honest.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
63. LOL
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:49 PM
May 2012

If you don't understand why, you don't even understand the dynamics of the argument, why there was one to begin with, and the fact that it has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with power/possession issues.

Seriously. This has so little to do with which sex is doing it that it isn't funny. I know a guy that threw his girlfriends shit on the lawn for about the same reasons. Result? He didn't go to jail, she didn't go to jail, they just grew up.

You are most mistaken if you think that people can't freak out and wave their fists, saying "tomorrow is another day" while changing the locks.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
117. If the genders were reversed
Sun May 20, 2012, 06:17 PM
May 2012

if some guy jumped in to explain what things are like for women in this country, he'd be accused of "mansplaining" at best. Probably worse.

But no, go on and tell me, from your vast experience not being a man, what it's like to be a man.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
44. On what charge?
Fri May 18, 2012, 03:47 PM
May 2012

I don't see anything illegal here. And I also don't think anyone here would condone cheating no matter which gender is involved.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
53. Vandalism, destruction of property, etc
Fri May 18, 2012, 04:17 PM
May 2012

Imagine if she were just mad at the neighbor and slashed his tires. Crime? Obviously.

It doesn't magically become legal simply because it is within a relationship and the guy is a jerk.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
57. It's not vandalism if it's marital property.
Fri May 18, 2012, 04:46 PM
May 2012

I already mentioned that upthread.

Now, if she'd slashed the neighbor's tires, then it would be a crime because she doesn't own or co-own that property.

Marital property is co-owned. She's free to paint a car she co-owns (even if her name isn't on the title - if it existed during the marriage, it's marital property in many states - maybe all, I'm not sure) and she's free to throw out clothes that are marital property.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
98. If it was her property, then she has issues
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:49 AM
May 2012

I get the feeling that if she would do this to her own property, then she probably has anger issues that might have caused her husband to seek the attention of a more understanding woman.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
69. So you condone cheating
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:13 PM
May 2012

and you are against getting a taste of revenge against a lover that takes the most sacred part of your life together and smears it with another?

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
118. Do you think a scorned lover should have the right to . . .
Sun May 20, 2012, 06:18 PM
May 2012

murder the entire family of the one who wronged him/her?

No?

So you're pro-cheating?!?!?!

See how absurd that argument is?

Cheating is wrong. Vandalism is wrong. Both people in a fight can be wrong. Not so?

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
129. Yes, with all the love, intimacy and lack of any dysfunctional behaviors,
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:28 PM
May 2012

how did things go wrong? It's a mystery best left unsolved.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
72. Exactly :D
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:21 PM
May 2012

I'm laughing because I THREW all the junk on the lawn when I caught mine. And I didn't stick around, and that's to be expected. I'm better than that.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
71. Hostility usually happens when you cheat
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:19 PM
May 2012

It isn't a God given right, and in fact, it is a God sealed thing that you won't.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
32. This might be therapy for the offended spouse, but will work against her in a court of law.
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:39 PM
May 2012

I can tell you this from a first-person perspective.

Judges take a very dim view on the willful destruction of community property.

She just might have taken a big financial hit in any potential settlement on this one.


After my ex destroyed a vehicle held in my name, she petitioned the court to keep the one that wasn't destroyed to use until the divorce was finalized.

The judge saw otherwise.

She got the use of car that she had vandalized.



Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
37. Was the ex-husband given the chance to remove the property from the premises?
Fri May 18, 2012, 03:26 PM
May 2012

Who was adjudicated to be the final owner of that property?

If her ex still owned that property, and was in the process of removing it within the time frame set by the court, she will be charged.

You do not have the right to unilaterally destroy anyone's belongings, no matter how much they have wronged you.

It shows a petty, vindictive personality.

That story left out more facts than it told.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
49. I suppose we see what we want to see...
Fri May 18, 2012, 04:07 PM
May 2012

"It shows a petty, vindictive personality. "


It also shows a consequence of cheating on one's wife.

I suppose we see what we want to see...

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
54. Cheating on one's spouse doesn't come into play very much in divorce proceedings.
Fri May 18, 2012, 04:22 PM
May 2012

It may be used as the reason, but the court is only concerned with how are the children (if any) to be cared for, and how are assets and liabilities divided.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
59. Maybe not where you live, but I filed a fault divorce
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:20 PM
May 2012

and could prove the cheating. I got everything.

I realize "I" might be anecdotal, but I think not. I believe it's because most people file no-fault divorce now days. I did not and it was taken very seriously.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
86. Exactly -- fault divorce for adultery and it can be proved?
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:34 PM
May 2012

You almost always even get temporary alimony, along with other settlements. My cousin also sued for alienation of affection, and was awarded $7,500 by the court against the women her husband cheated with.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
96. Exactly. I was a stay-at-home Mom
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:16 AM
May 2012

Had given up a career. I got instant child support and alimony.

I believe you because I went through it, too.

I didn't file for alienation of affection, though. I can't get blood out of a 'ho turnip (for the record, she also broke up her first cousin's marriage by cheating with HIM, causing HIS divorce and he had a wife and three children).

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
99. The article isn't clear about that.
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:13 AM
May 2012

It does refer to him as the owner:

"As if that wasn't enough, she flatted the tires of the man's SUV"

It's far more likely that the vehicle belonged to him by decree of the recent divorce settlement, and she decided to destroy it and all of his other possessions before he was able to retrieve them. Given the obvious bitterness, nothing else makes much sense.

I hope he files charges against her.

bluedeminredstate

(3,322 posts)
38. My husband's ex-wife did this.
Fri May 18, 2012, 03:29 PM
May 2012

This was before I met him so there was no cheating involved, but she took all his stuff including his naval flight logs, childhood photos, tools and everything he hadn't gotten out of the house (since he wasn't allowed to go retrieve it) and gave away the tools and equipment and burned the rest.
Of all the stuff that was lost, his flight logs were the most upsetting for him. This happened 25 years ago and he's still upset about it. I don't think it did much to improve her outlook - she's still nasty and mean.
It was just unnecessary and destructive.

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jp11

(2,104 posts)
41. I think the story should be about how the police stole their suv.
Fri May 18, 2012, 03:34 PM
May 2012

Since it was on their property and they (police) towed it away.

Also hope the woman has to pay for this or at least have whatever assets are split/alimony paid out to her reduced by the cost of all the damage she did.

Then there is the aspect of the man having possible emotional distress from having this scene played out at his home that alone should have some bearing on her claims of distress for him cheating on her in the divorce.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
46. Sounds like somebody has been listening to the radio.
Fri May 18, 2012, 03:59 PM
May 2012
&ob=av2n

For those who don't do YouTube here are the lyrics to the song I linked to:

"Before He Cheats"


Right now he's probably slow dancing with a bleached-blond tramp,
and she's probably getting frisky...
right now, he's probably buying her some fruity little drink
'cause she can't shoot whiskey...

Right now, he's probably up behind her with a pool-stick,
showing her how to shoot a combo...

And he don't know...

That I dug my key into the side of his
pretty little souped up 4 wheel drive,
carved my name into his leather seats...
I took a Louisville slugger to both headlights,
slashed a hole in all 4 tires...

Maybe next time he'll think before he cheats.

Right now, she's probably up singing some
white-trash version of Shania karaoke..
Right now, she's probably saying "I'm drunk"
and he's a thinking that he's gonna get lucky,
Right now, he's probably dabbing on
3 dollars worth of that bathroom polo...
And he don't know...

That I dug my key into the side of his
pretty little souped up 4 wheel drive,
carved my name into his leather seats,
I took a Louisville slugger to both headlights,
slashed a hole in all 4 tires...

Maybe next time he'll think before he cheats.

I might've saved a little trouble for the next girl,
'cause the next time that he cheats...

Oh, you know it won't be on me!

No...not on me

'Cause I dug my key into the side of his
pretty little souped up 4 wheel drive,
carved my name into his leather seats...
I took a Louisville slugger to both headlights,
slashed a hole in all 4 tires...

Maybe next time he'll think before he cheats.

Oh.. Maybe next time he'll think before he cheats...

Ohh... before he cheats...




While Carrie Underwood is singing the song in the video she's walking around with perfect makeup and hair looking totally glamorous. I actually don't dislike the song, but the lyrics REALLY caught my attention the first time I heard it. I have never heard destruction of property sound so gleeful before. Maybe this ex-wife is a big fan of the song...


Laura


 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
55. Supposedly men and women cheat in roughly the same amounts and yet you rarely
Fri May 18, 2012, 04:24 PM
May 2012

hear of an angry ex destroying his wife's property. I wonder why.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
60. Two reasons...
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:33 PM
May 2012

A.) Your premise may not be entirely true. Some studies suggest what you said - other suggest women still cheat far less.

B.) Most women are sneakier, imho. They don't get caught as often.

(I'm female, btw)

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
131. They weren't supposed to be continuous points, but
Tue May 22, 2012, 12:59 PM
May 2012

rather two separate reasons.

It was an "either, or" scenario.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
92. Okay, my experience
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:48 PM
May 2012

I belong to a divorce support group (where yes, the amount of men/women cheaters is pretty evenly divided) and there seem to be several reasons for this.

1 - the men didn't see it coming as much as the women did. Women hear about cheating men all the time and tend to be more suspicious by nature. Many men didn't know statistics show it's a pretty even split. Women cheaters are not often talked about and so the men were pretty much blindsided, which leads to a kind of shock at first where they are simply paralyzed with disbelief (where the women seemed to get angry right away).
2 - the men whose wives had cheated often had wives who left before they (the men) found out about the cheating, whereas the women caught their husbands cheating while they were still together and often the affair had been going on for months or even years. It seemed, within my group, that women were more likely to leave their husbands over the cheating almost immediately when they started cheating (and often gave a lot of 'warning' signs about being unhappy), while men were more likely to stick with their wives and try to cover it up and pretend everything was great, which led to a deeper anger (when you find out someone's been cheating for YEARS while pretending to love you, well that's sick).
3 - The women seemed to have more support and validation of their anger from friends and family, whereas the men were expected to 'suck it up' and 'move on'. Many of the men started dating again right away (with, yes, many disasterous results).

Just my observations.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
107. Are there statistics on that?
Sat May 19, 2012, 10:10 AM
May 2012

It's still worse for the woman though, who has less of a chance of finding someone new, the older she is.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
120. Just something I read once upon a time
Sun May 20, 2012, 06:32 PM
May 2012

don't have a link.

And I don't really think it's better for the guy.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
123. I would think one could find stories of men destroying
Sun May 20, 2012, 10:29 PM
May 2012

women's property on a break up. Throwing their clothes out and such things.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
125. Seem to be according to what standard?
Mon May 21, 2012, 10:59 AM
May 2012

Some statistic?

I don't think women are more likely to do such things than men.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
126. My personal observation
Mon May 21, 2012, 11:33 AM
May 2012

I don't know if anyone has done a study on "instances of spousal property incineration following extra-marital coitus broken down by gender and property value".

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
56. "Take it somewhere else, Buster" - Message from George Will's first wife.
Fri May 18, 2012, 04:29 PM
May 2012

When Will moved out on his wife and children, he found his office furniture dumped on his front lawn with a note reading, "Take it somewhere else, buster" (Salon, 2/12/98).

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1156

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
79. Seems quite idiotic to me.
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:27 PM
May 2012

Petulant, childish and ridiculous. Makes you wonder if this kind of thing is why he strayed to begin with. Some dudes are just scummy horndogs, some dudes are driven to it. This just comes across as petty. I doubt we'll get any perspective.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
91. No. Just speculating.
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:41 PM
May 2012

Never did I state anything of the sort. Just wondered about it. It's not out of the realm of possibility.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
130. At least she didn't drive the car into a lake with their kids strapped in
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:43 PM
May 2012

so they drowned and then blame an imaginary car jacking "black man" like Susan Smith in 1994.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
103. That's very juvenile behavior for someone who is old enough to be married
Sat May 19, 2012, 08:46 AM
May 2012

I hope she gets a proper diagnosis of her mental health issues, and agrees to treatment.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
104. What I find somewhat...
Sat May 19, 2012, 08:48 AM
May 2012

.. is the number of people here that sound almost giddy about this kind of revengeful destruction. Sad, but then there are opposite gender haters on both sides of the gap. Personally, I wish every "ex" in my life well, I don't need the bad Karma or the weight of carrying grudges around.

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riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
111. I'd be furious too. The cheater exposes his/her SO to incurable STDs, HIV etc
Sat May 19, 2012, 10:35 AM
May 2012

Beyond the break in trust, there's the real prospect of your health being jeopardized. I'd be pretty damn pissed.

Everyone slamming this woman as needing therapy does NOT have the whole story about this relationship. What if he infected her with HIV? What if he were fucking around with the kids in the house or one of the kids was the one who found him?

Sometimes justifiable rage and anger IS the proper response, and part of the process of healing. I wouldn't dare presume.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
128. She needs to get a freakin' life.
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:11 PM
May 2012

This kind of crap is not called for, and not necessary. Was he a pig? Probably. Get the f**k over it. Leave him and be done with it. She's just making herself look bad.

Bake

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