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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsthe American dentist who paid 55k to kill beloved lion, says he didn't know
Social media and Yelp accounts of Dr. Palmer's practice inundated with furious messages about the hunt

However, speaking to the Star Tribune on Tuesday morning, Dr. Palmer said he was unaware of Cecil's fame and expressed regret but denied any illegality and laid any blame firmly at the door of his guides.
'I hired several professional guides, and they secured all proper permits,' the statement read. 'To my knowledge, everything about this trip was legal and properly handled and conducted.
'I had no idea that the lion I took was a known, local favorite, was collared and part of a study until the end of the hunt. I relied on the expertise of my local professional guides to ensure a legal hunt.'
'Again, I deeply regret that my pursuit of an activity I love and practice responsibly and legally resulted in the taking of this lion,' the statement concluded.
Professional Zimbabwean hunter Theo Bronkhorst and local landowner Honest Ndlovu are due to appear in court this week on poaching charges for allegedly killing Cecil.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3177303/PICTURED-American-dentist-passion-hunting-killed-Cecil-Lion-bow-arrow-Zimbabwe.html#ixzz3hDNGVDsq
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Here he is with a leopard he killed

misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)I remember reading this here http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024149401
Unfortunately it was in pictures, most of which are gone.
The gist of it was - the lion just sits there, confident in its power. Shooting one requires no stealth, no tracking ability, and entails no physical risk. It's the moral equivalent of shooting a fish in a barrell.
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misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)And only sloppy gruel for food and no air conditioning and is forced out on a daily work program with a shovel & a bucket, cleaning up lion & other wild animal dung in an animal sanctuary, for the next five years of his pathetic life. EDIT to make the 20 not 5 years.
He should be forced to return the trophied lion parts to the people he stole them from for proper burial.
It should never be displayed on his office wall.
I loathe this man today.
Lochloosa
(16,667 posts)
He's sleeping...not dead
mnhtnbb
(33,106 posts)Typical response of a Republican. Who me? I didn't know. Somebody else is at fault.
Besides, if he didn't get his jollies from killing magnificent creatures--instead of hunting them with a camera--
he wouldn't be in this predicament.
He's just an a$$hole. Total a$$hole.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Not sure it can be said enough, actually.
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mnhtnbb
(33,106 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,676 posts)Seriously. He's a piece of shit.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)msongs
(73,047 posts)has had any patients die under his care
City Lights
(25,578 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)City Lights
(25,578 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)City Lights
(25,578 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)off the hook too. What a lame asshole!
Igel
(37,334 posts)And that is the difference he's pointing at.
(In fact, we used to have such. They were called "bounty hunters."
WDIM
(1,662 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)stupid slaughter houses do the same thing, sub the word slaughter/kill with 'processing'.
Gothmog
(174,622 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)I'm not normally a fan of the public shaming, but I do make exceptions.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,141 posts)Wow...I did not hear about THAT.
The Telegraph article does say
I
dixiegrrrrl
(60,141 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Even as I was marking them, new ones were added so fast I could barely keep up.
Page after page of 1-star rants.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Romulox
(25,960 posts)Kingofalldems
(40,024 posts)If on the extreme outside chance he's a Dem, he should be excommunicated and told he should vote for the other party. We don't want him.
shanti
(21,784 posts)he voted for Romney.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)
AllFieldsRequired
(489 posts)of not paying taxes and discriminating against everyone who does not look like him.
Because there is no other reason to support a prick like Romney.
0rganism
(25,458 posts)glad this foolio has his priorities straight
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)enlightenment
(8,830 posts)the dentist - but the guides are entirely culpable. They baited the animal to leave the reserve, which presumably makes the kill "legal".
The guide, the land-owner, and the dentist are all guilty. They should toss them into a snake pit with stick and a pack of matches. Seems about as fair as a canned hunt
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)hunt is and that it draws animals for miles including from next door preserves. The wealthy do the same exact thing in America next to our parks and protected lands to draw out the wildlife.
Heck those kind of 'outdoor experts' even do that with our protected wild horses to draw them off/attract the wild horses off their federally protected lands by limiting water sources. Then they can round them up and sell them cheap to slaughterhouses as 'strays' on 'private land'
Those men are pros, they know full well what they wanted to kill, the 'quality' male lions off the 'preserve'
dixiegrrrrl
(60,141 posts)There are "hunting preserves" here in the USA, where wild animals are hunted, in a fenced range, so they cannot escape.
Some of those places are in Texas. People pay big bucks to go there and shoot an animal so they can brag about it.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)and how those damn Feral Hogs infested Texas.
csziggy
(34,189 posts)
I don't know where it was taken but considering how endangered rhinos are that is obscene.
ETA - here is the source: http://trophyhuntamerica.smugmug.com/Other/SAFARI-CONNECTION-Africa/4034720_LkPBFc/234882651_7DR52sJ#!i=234882651&k=7DR52sJ
Caption: "Walt Palmer with the "WORLD RECORD" archery White Rhino taken in South Africa while hunting with PH Pierre Vorster."
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)there is one live male and 5 live females,. but they think this is the last generation, the male seems to have lost interest. Probably because he has no buddies.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)There's a price on every animal.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)since there are only 5 left and the only male is old.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)He will probably see a day of patients and send 200k to Africa as a fine.
CountAllVotes
(22,063 posts)and this douchebag o'shyte deserves life!
olddots
(10,237 posts)Here is one that just commited career suicide .
n2doc
(47,953 posts)I am pretty sure he won't though. Hope he loses every cent he has.
Igel
(37,334 posts)Right?
Fair trial? Zimbabwe?
Oh. That's why people want him to go. Because Zimbabwe isn't known for the fairness of its trials.
Then again, he enjoys "white privilege" and all the benefits of "structural racism", so perhaps he'll be okay in Zimbabwe.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Sounds real peachy keen.
sub.theory
(652 posts)His white privileged card has frequent flier usage. He does this all the time. He's shocked his bribes didn't keep the peasants quiet.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)I'm sure the courts will destroy the man.
gmafb
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The link you posted is to Kruger Park in South Africa. .ZA is the country-code for South Africa.
You do realize these are different countries, yes?
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)has been in trouble with his hunting
GusBob
(8,111 posts)Just to get him off their ass.
Its a bad idea to throw the guides under the bus, they are a close knit group of a tough take no prisoners sort.
His next safari will not go well
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)ann---
(1,933 posts)didn't enjoy killing living things, this would not
have happened. I hope he loses his dental practice.
Wouldn't want those dirty, bloody hands in my
mouth.
MerryBlooms
(12,137 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Not the first time he's been caught...
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)As a hunter, he has the responsibility of performing due diligence. Claiming ignorance is not a valid excuse.
TDale313
(7,822 posts)Killing such beautiful animals for "fun". I hope this follows him for years. He deserves for his career to be over and to face serious penalties/consequences for his actions.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I have no thoughts for this guy, but bad ones. Curse his name and his house. Killing animals for slaughter and glory are signs of a small mind and soul imo.
ellie
(6,974 posts)I can't really say what I want to happen to him in a public forum.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)I can understand, and make sense of, why people kill for food or clothing to keep warm, or self defense, or to protect the property or animals.
But, pleasure..?
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)DinahMoeHum
(23,342 posts)(snip)
In 2008, Palmer admitted he lied to Wisconsin authorities after shooting a black bear 40 miles outside the zone where he was authorized to hunt two years prior. He served one year of probation, paid a $2,938 fine and forfeited the bear's remains.
(snip)
Minnesota court records show that in 2003, Palmer was cited in Otter Tail County for fishing without a license.
(snip)
The Minnesota Board of Dentistry referenced his conviction for the Wisconsin bear hunt, as well as sexual harassment claims, in 2009 while punishing him for unprofessional conduct.
According to a corrective action agreement he reached with the board, Palmer's insurer paid $127,500 to a former employee and patient who accused him of ongoing sexual harassment. The woman claimed he made unwelcome comments about and physical contact with her breasts, buttocks and genitals.
Palmer denied the harassment allegations and said he agreed to the settlement to "conclude the matter quickly and efficiently," according to the agreement. He was required to pass a jurisprudence exam and complete an ethics course.
(snip)
Real piece of work, this guy.
AllFieldsRequired
(489 posts)to the campaign.
And I dont think he is a piece of work (as to imply uniqueness), sadly I think this is your standard non liberal in America.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)but I think the backlash will be enough to put him out of business.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)Paladin
(32,244 posts)Genuinely disgusting. I hope this guy spends the rest of his days living this down.
Faux pas
(16,140 posts)BS wafting from his mouth.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)tortuous death?
Well, bad news Mr. "How Could I Have Known?" Now you're the one with a target on your back. How does it feel?
Can't wait for you to head back to Zimbabwe to face the music, murderous animal-torturing creep.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)just like all the other animals he has hunted and killed.
the_pauley
(1 post)BBC News has reported the American dentist lion hunting story and they read out a statement that the dentist has just made in the US, claiming that he didn't know he was hunting a protected lion and how he was misled by the guides that organised the hunt, etc. etc. Not that we believe a word of it, but...
1. So fucking what? Protected lion or not he still forked out $55,000 to satisfy his sick, twisted bloodlust to kill a beautiful animal that was harming no one.
2. He has hunted illegally before and lied about it when caught. In 2008, he faced prison time and eventually was placed on probation after admitting to making a false statement to a federal agent in connection with his hunt of a black bear in Wisconsin. Palmer shot a black bear in 2006 about 40 miles outside the zone where he was licensed to hunt, and then lied about it to a U.S. Fish and Wildlife agent, claiming he shot it in the correct zone.
http://www.weau.com/home/headlines/18015589.html
Lars39
(26,486 posts)Thanks for that info! I hope he's extradited. They also need to go after the owners of the hunting company....you just know his hunting guides didn't get much more than chump change. The bulk of the money went to whoever owns the company.
Blue Owl
(58,149 posts)n/t
Coventina
(29,091 posts)hunter
(40,353 posts)No better than the international sex tourist who "didn't know" the girl was twelve.
He's just sorry he got caught.
MH1
(19,053 posts)The poor creature suffered for 40 hours.
Fucking bastards. Palmer, the people who set up this hunt, and everyone else who participates in this "sport".
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)Why do these people have to kill Lions and cheetahs?? What the moose and deer here are not game enough for them?? Heck here in Florida you can kill a bear too. What is the purpose of going to another country and killing the animals that did nothing to them?? They don't eat them. It's just a trophy to them. That's rather sick
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)he knows how much trouble he is an and now the whiney loser bully folds like a cheap suit
no sympathy
enjoy prison in zimbabwe you pos.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Fuck him. I hope he suffers for the rest of his days.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Have the mighty hunter magazines started to offer Panda hunt of a lifetime package hunt yet?
C_U_L8R
(48,818 posts)Of course he's a republican.
Initech
(107,312 posts)benld74
(10,249 posts)Xolodno
(7,304 posts)1. You know you are hunting next to a preserve and there is a good chance an animal from the preserve could wander off.
2. He had to know they were baiting for a lion, which makes getting one from the preserve all more likely.
3. After seeing a radio collar and your guides trying to destroy it...should at least give you some concern that something isn't right. Anything "radio collared" is where you say, we made a mistake, we need to find out who was monitoring and let them know.
4. His excuse "I relied on the guides" implies he had already concocted a story in case he got caught.
Oh and...when has "officer, I thought the speed limit was 65, I didn't know it was 45" ever worked. Just because "you didn't know" doesn't excuse from the crime.
I hope the extradite his sorry ass and he goes broke to trying to fight it....and still ends up in a Zimbabwe prison.
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DebbieCDC
(2,548 posts)He should be transported to the preserve in Africa and turned loose without food, water or weapons and let the lions hunt him.
Baitball Blogger
(51,657 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)and apparently there are a couple fake facebook pages up for him to replace the one he took down.
Looks like his website has been taken down too.
www.riverbluffdental.com/meet-dr-palmer
Ah, his Yelp page was still at 4 1/2 stars when I first starting liking posts there. Now he's down to 1 1/2 stars.
Heh. Yelp is deleting 1 and 2 star reviews, but the people come back and review again. Yelp claims it's not related to service he provide. So they come back and mention that people have a right to know they are dealing with an unethical, lying, sexually perverted, torturer. With 5-star reviews. This one nails it:
7/28/2015
Here's what I look for in a healthcare professional: a disgusting and thorough lack of compassion, sociopathic tendencies, a vile propensity for torture of the innocent, a bombastic self-importance, a demented and narcissistic sense of fun, a self-serving and egocentric disposition, a knack for betraying others' trust, a history of lying to officials, a criminal record, and most of all a smug mug. I found all that in Dr. Walter Palmer at River Bluff Dental!
I don't give many 5-star reviews, so you know that Dr. Palmer really fits the bill! With Dr. Palmer at his best, your soul will be black, your hands will be bloody, your head will spin, your stomach will turn, and your heart will hurt, but hell if your teeth won't be white!!!!
The main con with Dr. Palmer is that he doesn't have any balls, but he more than compensates for it with his BIG bow and arrow. Pssssshhh. In case there's any doubt, he will be happy to prove it by illegally slaying "mature, magnificent" creatures who are beloved and protected. And when he needs reinforcements, he doesn't hesitate to bribe the right people to back him up. Highly recommended!
DebbieCDC
(2,548 posts)Let's show some DU love
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Iggo
(49,627 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)2naSalit
(99,867 posts)tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)Because being conservative is never having to take responsibility.
tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)eom.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)CrispyQ
(40,651 posts)Coventina
(29,091 posts)They shouldn't be raised by a sociopath.
werknotgoin2takeit
(172 posts)From what I understand. Works for a broker and has joined him on his "hunts". The entire family sounds like nasty pieces of work. Public shaming ats it's best, like most of you I hope he loses everything. As Eddie Murphy says in trading places (paraphrased from memory) "the worst thing you can do to rich people is to make them poor". He's already poor in spirit and humanity let's all work to make it physical as well!
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Solly Mack
(96,299 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)werknotgoin2takeit
(172 posts)Gone now and his cubs. I have no words just tears😩.
Flaxbee
(13,661 posts)I have no idea what kind of mental defect allows a person to kill any creature for "sport". And if you add to that the animal is endangered, well, the person is a dangerous sociopath as well. To take joy and pride from killing any creature is the sign of true illness.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)...When I find myself in total agreement with my mortal enemy Glenn Fuckin' Greenwald:
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/626009443759689728
Release The Hounds
(467 posts)oasis
(53,332 posts)Skittles
(169,397 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)ALBliberal
(3,205 posts)Wouldn't he have seen it? And certainly when he took the photos with the dead lion? But he continued on and has the head chopped off and now he lies about the collar. The guy is sick.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)He probably shot the lion wearing his pajamas.
RIPCecil
(1 post)What other rare animals did the selfish prick illegally kill?
RIP Cecil and may God bless and give your babies strength.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Sorry to say I read his offspring will most likely be killed by the next dominant male in the pride so the females will mate with him.
This tragic death has tragic repercussions.
MH1
(19,053 posts)They're the only ones I feel sorry for. Although I suspect that they will grow up to be republican scum also. They've grown up so far surrounded by the notion that killing magnificent animals and displaying animal parts as trophies is "normal" and something to be proud of. Far from understanding the sentiment behind it, they will probably defend their father against the world's reaction to his reprehensible behavior. I hope I'm wrong of course. And in any case, their lives will be much harder if he does lose his practice. (which by the way I suspect he won't, or he will be able to move and set up somewhere else. People have short memories and "Palmer" is a common name.)
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)csziggy
(34,189 posts)http://trophyhuntamerica.smugmug.com/Other/SAFARI-CONNECTION-Africa/4034720_LkPBFc/234882651_7DR52sJ#!i=234884042&k=GmHzjM9
I think this is him with a wart hog, too:
http://trophyhuntamerica.smugmug.com/Other/SAFARI-CONNECTION-Africa/4034720_LkPBFc/234882651_7DR52sJ#!i=1355355154&k=JB9jSq3
And here is the picture of him with Cecil the Lion:
http://trophyhuntamerica.smugmug.com/Other/SAFARI-CONNECTION-Africa/4034720_LkPBFc/234882651_7DR52sJ#!i=234882628&k=cbr9s8N
It's sickening to see how many animals have been killed by assholes that these guides have taken out. One of the captions on a picture of an asshole with a dead leopard says, "The animal harvested is not as important as the hunt..." BULLSHIT - the animal is much more important than the hunt, you pricks.
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)I can't find the words to describe the disgust I feel about this. This guy is a fucking weasel.
Marr
(20,317 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)Look at all the damn articles defending this asshole. Its in the most read section.
http://www.startribune.com/police-poised-for-protest-at-shuttered-dentist-office-of-twin-cities-hunter-who-killed-lion/319428081/
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and kiss him.
What a shitheel.
customerserviceguy
(25,406 posts)But if the owner of the private land where the lion was shot had gone through the technicality of applying for a 'quota', and if this lion had not been famous (and thus, named), then none of us ever would have heard about this.
While you're expressing disgust and revulsion towards the dentist, all properly deserved, add some for the Zimbabwean government that profits from this in the first place, as part of 'sustainable tourism'.