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marmar

(77,064 posts)
Fri May 18, 2012, 04:10 PM May 2012

WTF?


Fracking bidders top farmers at water auction

Posted: 04/02/2012 04:31:47 AM MDT
Updated: 04/02/2012 08:02:47 AM MDT

By BRUCE FINLEY The Denver Post


DENVER—Front Range farmers bidding for water to grow crops through the coming hot summer and possible drought face new competition from oil and gas drillers.

At Colorado's premier auction for unallocated water this spring, companies that provide water for hydraulic fracturing at well sites were top bidders on supplies once claimed exclusively by farmers.

The prospect of tussling with energy industry giants over water leaves some farmers and environmentalists uneasy.

"What impact to our environment and our agricultural heritage are Coloradans willing to stomach for drilling and fracking?" said Gary Wockner, director of the Save the Poudre Coalition, devoted to protecting the Cache la Poudre River. ................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.denverpost.com/entertainmentcolumnists/ci_20306480/fracking-bidders-top-farmers-at-water-auction



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WTF? (Original Post) marmar May 2012 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2012 #1
Du rec. Nt xchrom May 2012 #2
Let Them Eat Gas Bigmack May 2012 #3
How lovely jayschool May 2012 #4
Well there is an ad just waiting to be made Motown_Johnny May 2012 #5
I grew up there, NE corner and Ft. Collins Viva_La_Revolution May 2012 #8
I was in and around Vail from my late teens to my early 30s Motown_Johnny May 2012 #15
Thousands of gallons per well????? Curmudgeoness May 2012 #16
That's a lawsuit waiting to happen Woody Woodpecker May 2012 #6
It's much worse than just robbing the CO farmers of their water rights to use to water crops with. Major Hogwash May 2012 #7
It's grotesque. madamesilverspurs May 2012 #9
psychopaths and sociopaths are running things now fascisthunter May 2012 #10
We see it, but their greed blinds them to it. CrispyQ May 2012 #19
repigs bongbong May 2012 #11
"Hydraulic Empire". Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #12
We visited Walpi (1st Mesa) the week they celebrated getting water for the first time FailureToCommunicate May 2012 #13
I will suggest and hope that Colorado has as much common sense as....Vermont... MindMover May 2012 #14
k&r Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #17
We must overthrow the 1%. They will inevitably enslave and kill us all if we don't. Zorra May 2012 #18
I'm of two minds on this. As usual. Robb May 2012 #20
The 1% are so addicted to their lifestyle and profits felix_numinous May 2012 #21
 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
5. Well there is an ad just waiting to be made
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:17 PM
May 2012

Every (D) in Colorado should run on this (and I lived there for ~12 years).

This should help Pres. Obama hold Colorado this year.


Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
8. I grew up there, NE corner and Ft. Collins
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:30 PM
May 2012

and up the Poudre river to Grandpa's cabin.

If there's one thing that will turn the farmers against fracking, it's the water. It destroys thousands of gallons per well and you can never get that pure water back.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
15. I was in and around Vail from my late teens to my early 30s
Sat May 19, 2012, 07:29 AM
May 2012

(not counting the time off I took to go to school in New York and work in Ohio)


so I have less direct contact with farmers than those of you from the Ft. Collins area but I do agree with your assessment.

Colorado is a state where they/we know that water is a serious issue and this is exactly the kind of news that reaches voters beyond the farming community.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
16. Thousands of gallons per well?????
Sat May 19, 2012, 11:44 AM
May 2012

Try millions of gallons...per well.

Hydraulic fracturing of a typical Chesapeake horizontal deep shale natural gas or oil well requires an average of 4.5 million gallons per well.


http://www.hydraulicfracturing.com/Water-Usage/Pages/Information.aspx

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
7. It's much worse than just robbing the CO farmers of their water rights to use to water crops with.
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:17 PM
May 2012

After the water is pumped 100s of feet deep into the ground mixed with an unknown chemical mix that the natural gas company does not have to publicly reveal because it is considered "a trade secret", the excess chemical-laden water is transported by water trucks to Utah.

And then the chemicalized water is dumped in the south end of an Indian reservation, located about 30 miles within the Utah border.
Senator Hatch was the one that helped to author that deal.

madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
9. It's grotesque.
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:21 PM
May 2012

I live in Weld County, Colorado, where we have well over 17000 of these wells. Our county commission is orgasmic over that. Here's what one of them said about it:

http://www.timescall.com/news/longmont-local-news/ci_20649497/weld-commissioner-defends-fracking-contrasts-welds-policies-boulder

And here's what WE say about it:

https://www.facebook.com/?ref=tn_tnmn#!/profile.php?id=100003590225095

(If the link doesn't work, PLEASE go to Facebook, find Frack Files)

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CrispyQ

(36,437 posts)
19. We see it, but their greed blinds them to it.
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:32 PM
May 2012

We get these fucking corporate behemoths under control or we all go down.

Corporations are not humans & money is not speech.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
11. repigs
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:44 PM
May 2012

repigs have a plan to surpass China's economy.

Unfortunately the only area their plans are for is "produce more industrial pollution than China". A tall order, but the hatred the repigs have for America and Americans lets them do it easily.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,011 posts)
13. We visited Walpi (1st Mesa) the week they celebrated getting water for the first time
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:48 PM
May 2012

EVER! (It always had to hauled up prior to that)

That this Senate bill would jeopardize the Hopi water supply is awful!

Thanks for the heads up, Fire.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
14. I will suggest and hope that Colorado has as much common sense as....Vermont...
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:03 AM
May 2012

Colorado is also much closer to the SUPER VOLCANO and we wouldn't want to screw with mother nature.......


Vermont....... http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/17/us/vermont-fracking/index.html

Fracking is dangerous to everybodys health...... http://dangersoffracking.com/

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
18. We must overthrow the 1%. They will inevitably enslave and kill us all if we don't.
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:14 PM
May 2012

End of story.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
20. I'm of two minds on this. As usual.
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:37 PM
May 2012

Setting aside fracking's obvious major problems, I'm less inclined to romanticize Colorado's "agricultural heritage" than most.

We turned the desert of the Western Slope into a peach factory by damming rivers and diverting water, environment be damned. We dug what was the longest water tunnel in the world to suck life from fragile ecosystems and put it into ditches to grow grass for cattle.

Fracking sucks. But let's not gloss over things here. A peach has about as much natural reason to grow en masse in Fruita as Kentucky Bluegrass has to grow in Phoenix.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
21. The 1% are so addicted to their lifestyle and profits
Sat May 19, 2012, 01:36 PM
May 2012

that they are willing to endanger all life on this planet--they are unable to stop themselves. It is up to the 99% to do it.

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