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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:39 PM

ChiciB1 (15,435 posts)

When Is The Ed Schultz Show Going To Be Canceled?

Been trying to finds information, but did see that Bernie Sanders blasted Comcast for canceling his show. I heard Thom Hartmann & Mike Papantonio both comment on it. This is the SECOND time this has happened, the first was back in 2013 but protests supported him and they gave him another show. Now, I guess it's because he's talking against TPP and THAT'S NOT ALLOWED!

Democracy Much?? Sickening!

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Reply When Is The Ed Schultz Show Going To Be Canceled? (Original post)
 ChiciB1 Jul 2015 OP
LineReply Democracy has nothing to do with it. It's about ratings - $$$$$$
 Lil Missy Jul 2015 #1
LineLineReply Okay, I'm going to go over this one more time.
 Cleita Jul 2015 #4
LineLineLineReply Probably a valid point, but irrelevant.
 Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #8
LineLineLineLineReply I've seen dirty tricks management does to workers they don't like but can't fire
 Cleita Jul 2015 #9
LineLineLineLineLineReply Sorry, This Is My Thread, Meant To Get Right Back...
 ChiciB1 Jul 2015 #18
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply Cenk had that time slot for awhile at MSNBC.
 Cleita Jul 2015 #21
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply He's Started WolfPac Now, And I Agree With
 ChiciB1 Jul 2015 #23
LineLineLineLineReply Message auto-removed
 Name removed Jul 2015 #12
LineLineLineLineLineReply His ratings are the worst of any show in his slot.
 Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #14
LineLineLineLineReply One problem for both Ed and MSNBC is that
 Jim Beard Jul 2015 #34
LineLineLineLineLineReply And I bet Faux is on basic. nt
 SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #36
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply You bet it is and all its other programming.
 Jim Beard Jul 2015 #43
LineLineLineReply He didn't have enough of a following to get a better time slot.
 Lil Missy Jul 2015 #19
LineLineLineLineReply Just hang on to that fantasy.
 Cleita Jul 2015 #20
LineLineLineReply No, they gave him a primetime slot which he failed in...
 brooklynite Jul 2015 #38
LineLineLineLineReply They didn't want him saying what he said in prime time or
 Cleita Jul 2015 #41
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Again - why did they fire him long ago?
 brooklynite Jul 2015 #44
LineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply I don't ever remember him being fired. He was moved from 5 PM PT or 8 ET to give
 Cleita Jul 2015 #48
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply And to prevent him having airtime was to give him a show?
 mythology Jul 2015 #45
LineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply He had a show. He was moved into a bad time slot.
 Cleita Jul 2015 #47
LineLineReply Phil Donohue had great ratings (for MSNBC)
 dflprincess Jul 2015 #29
LineLineLineReply Which has absolutely nothing to do with Ed's low ratings. n/t
 Lil Missy Jul 2015 #30
LineLineLineLineReply But it does demonostrate that at MSNBC it's not always about ratings
 dflprincess Jul 2015 #31
LineLineLineLineLineReply Yeah, that kinda shoots a hole in the ratings argument. nt
 SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #37
LineLineLineLineNew Reply Phil Donohue had a different time slot if I remember correctly.
 Cleita Jul 2015 #46
LineReply Ed Schultz's ratings have been, consistantly, the worst (Link Below)
 Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #2
LineLineReply The time slots he has are not the best
 still_one Jul 2015 #3
LineLineLineReply Years ago, Air America attempted to create a liberal version of Conservative radio.
 Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #10
LineLineLineLineReply It failed because the operators lied about the money they had to invest and then new
 Cleita Jul 2015 #11
LineLineLineLineLineReply yup. ratings weren't the issue
 Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 #25
LineLineLineLineReply I always thought Sam Seder would have drawn younger viewers
 Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 #27
LineLineReply He's on at 4:00 CST.
 Greybnk48 Jul 2015 #5
LineLineReply See my post #4 above. eom
 Cleita Jul 2015 #6
LineReply I have been trying to find it at all the usual websites and Google and I get crickets.
 Cleita Jul 2015 #7
LineReply wouldn't it be odd ( not really ) if MSNBC
 olddots Jul 2015 #13
LineReply His show has been canceled officially. Tomorrow is his final show...
 PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #15
LineLineReply Meanwhile, Morning Joe gets to plod along with low ratings
 Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 #26
LineReply According to "The New Civil Rights Movement" Friday is the last day. (link below)
 Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #16
LineLineReply Ed wasn't there today (Thursday). Michael Eric Dyson hosted.
 Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #35
LineReply MSNBC is changing to a breaking new format, according ot the article.
 Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #17
LineLineReply WELL, Thanks For ALL The Info, I WAS NOT Aware
 ChiciB1 Jul 2015 #22
LineLineLineNew Reply Your welcome.
 Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #49
LineLineReply We get that hack Chuck Todd and his beltway cocktail party friends now
 Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 #28
LineLineReply "Chuck Todd will bring his unmatched brand of political insight and analysis"
 SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #39
LineLineLineNew Reply I wished for Olberman, and forgot my father's saying, wish in one hand, shit in the other, see which
 Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #50
LineReply Ed should never have given up his radio show
 Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 #24
LineLineReply Its tough for liberal radio
 Jim Beard Jul 2015 #40
LineReply I DVRed Ed Schultz Show today
 BlueStateLib Jul 2015 #32
LineReply I think I read Friday is his last show
 Mira Jul 2015 #33
LineLineReply It was just announced earlier. Ed wasn't even hosting today.
 Cleita Jul 2015 #42
LineNew Reply He was not there last night and from his video it sounds like he is not going back. He said he is
 jwirr Jul 2015 #51
LineNew Reply Ed's show is cancelled for the exact same reason as Joy Reid, Ronan, The Cycle, Karen Finney, etc.
 Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #52
LineLineNew Reply Thank you.
 PragmaticLiberal Jul 2015 #53

Response to ChiciB1 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:47 PM

Lil Missy (17,865 posts)

1. Democracy has nothing to do with it. It's about ratings - $$$$$$

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:09 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

4. Okay, I'm going to go over this one more time.

Ed's fans are working class, union people. When Ed's show is on, they are at work, except back East when they are commuting from work. Ed's show doesn't repeat later in the evening like Chris, Rachel and Lawrence's shows do. The PTB deliberately shoved him in that time slot so his rating would be low.

Frankly, this is probably a good thing for him. It will give him the freedom to move on and do what he thinks is right.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:17 PM

Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)

8. Probably a valid point, but irrelevant.

In order for a show to be a hit, it has to have viewers.

MSNBC has rarely done better than number three, beaten by CNN and FOX.
Ed, from what I read, has had the least viewers.

If liberals want Ed, or someon like him, on Televison, they need ot tune in. People did not.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:22 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

9. I've seen dirty tricks management does to workers they don't like but can't fire

outright because they've done nothing wrong. They might move them into a closet for an office. Make them work hours that are a real hardship for them and any number of BS things to force them to quit or catch them in some petty violation of workplace rules or demands, in this case ratings. Just make sure he doesn't get ratings. This is what happened to Ed, and many before him who wouldn't lie, cheat or steal to keep their jobs.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:30 PM

ChiciB1 (15,435 posts)

18. Sorry, This Is My Thread, Meant To Get Right Back...

but some people came over. I'm reading these replies and I tend to agree with you Cleita and with the fact that HIS time slot has made it very difficult for him. I Googled information about his show and found that his coverage of TPP was a HUGE NO-NO! I'm not very good at posting links, etc., but it seems that COMCAST was at the "inside" table regarding the initial TPP language.

I've been watching FSTV or LINK and other alternative information outlets but was always interested in what Ed has to say, He seemed to be more like Cenk Uger and the others that left, so now I guess it's really curtains for him too! Have never been a COMCAST fan, was a customer once and got rid of them, and now they seem to be pretty much an alternative FOX type Corporation. Thom Hartmann is constantly having trouble with his phone lines, but his show is linked through FSTV.

Oh well, just one m ore time that I've had to had crap shoved in my face!

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:54 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

21. Cenk had that time slot for awhile at MSNBC.

I really think the corporate sponsors put on the pressure not ratings. When you do shows that make the sponsors look bad they can get rid of you.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:05 PM

ChiciB1 (15,435 posts)

23. He's Started WolfPac Now, And I Agree With

you on this matter. Been around long enough now that I've seen so many people and news outlets roll over that I no longer believe we have A Fourth Estate for "we the people!" You have to go to alternative sources now, but too many people are simply stuck drinking the Kool Aid. What's worse is that they are completely UNAWARE of it!

I've been a member here since 2004 and have seen this place change in similar ways. Those of us who came here a long time ago find ourselves getting attacked by what I call DLC types. I used to post all the time, now I find myself reading more than I post because the nastiness has gotten out of control too many times.

YEP, even DU isn't the haven I felt so comfortable with. I understand compromise and am willing to look at different points of view, but I'm not really willing to compromise what I believe is in my heart. I've accepted many changes over the years, but I think this country has strayed so far away from REAL Democracy that I once knew.

As too many say over and over.... IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! We will fall and go the way of Rome if we don't wake up soon. I don't know, it's possible we've already entered the danger zone and it might be too late.

I read Thom Hartmann's "The Crash of 2016" and it made WAY TOO MUCH SENSE and I'm not sure this country is up to a BIG FIX!

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:33 PM

Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)

14. His ratings are the worst of any show in his slot.

In almost all cases, the simplest answer is the most accurate. I am a skeptic, but that means I don't go out of my way to look for a conspiracy.

Ratings determine how much MSNBC can charge for ads. His low ratings means he is not attracting an audience. Those who watch are loyal, but there are not enough.

It is sad, but there is not enough profit in Ed's message.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:58 PM

Jim Beard (2,535 posts)

34. One problem for both Ed and MSNBC is that

 

they are on the 2nd teir of cable and Dish offerings. It just cost more to watch both of them.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:14 PM

SusanCalvin (6,592 posts)

36. And I bet Faux is on basic. nt

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 01:53 AM

Jim Beard (2,535 posts)

43. You bet it is and all its other programming.

 

Even the Latino news.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:39 PM

Lil Missy (17,865 posts)

19. He didn't have enough of a following to get a better time slot.

The threshold is not the same for each time slot. And, DU popularity is not the criteria used to measure success.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:42 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

20. Just hang on to that fantasy.

I'm sure he will come back elsewhere much better. He's too experienced not to.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:19 PM

Star Member brooklynite (89,780 posts)

38. No, they gave him a primetime slot which he failed in...

...then after he shifted to weekends, they gave him another chance at weekdays.

If "the PTB" hated him so much, why didn't they just fire him years ago?

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:01 AM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

41. They didn't want him saying what he said in prime time or

any time for that matter.

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 06:57 AM

Star Member brooklynite (89,780 posts)

44. Again - why did they fire him long ago?

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:59 AM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

48. I don't ever remember him being fired. He was moved from 5 PM PT or 8 ET to give

that time slot to Chris Hayes, who had been promoted from weekends. He did weekends and was moved back to everyday but at 2 PT or 5 ET which is the lowest rating time of the day because they are at work in most time zones and commuting back east. This was his audience the working class.

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:22 AM

mythology (9,527 posts)

45. And to prevent him having airtime was to give him a show?

 

Truly a devious machiavellian scheme.

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:55 AM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

47. He had a show. He was moved into a bad time slot.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:27 PM

Star Member dflprincess (27,768 posts)

29. Phil Donohue had great ratings (for MSNBC)

but they cancelled him for not going along with the Iraq war.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:30 PM

Lil Missy (17,865 posts)

30. Which has absolutely nothing to do with Ed's low ratings. n/t

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:37 PM

Star Member dflprincess (27,768 posts)

31. But it does demonostrate that at MSNBC it's not always about ratings

and is Chuckles Todd going to do any better in that time slot? Doubtful - but they can depend on Chuck not to try and rock the boat.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:16 PM

SusanCalvin (6,592 posts)

37. Yeah, that kinda shoots a hole in the ratings argument. nt

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:47 AM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

46. Phil Donohue had a different time slot if I remember correctly.

Also, everyone who hates Ed because he loves Bernie, wants to make this about his ratings but really it was about his time slot.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:05 PM

Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)

2. Ed Schultz's ratings have been, consistantly, the worst (Link Below)

http://www.mediaite.com/?s=ed+schultz+ratings

MSNBC is a for profit chunk of a for profit company. Democracy has nothing to do with business decisions.

Ed Schultz may say important things, but people do no tune in and listen.

MSNBC is shaking up their entire line up becasue they, consistantly, fall behind both FOX and CNN for viewership.

They have done this repeatedly through out their broadcast history.

If liberals want people like schultz to be on television, they need to turn the TV on and watch it in big numbers.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:09 PM

Star Member still_one (89,299 posts)

3. The time slots he has are not the best

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:26 PM

Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)

10. Years ago, Air America attempted to create a liberal version of Conservative radio.

It failed because liberals did not tune in. Apparanlty, we just did not tune in to radio.

MSNBC's best ratings were when Keith Olberman headlined primetime, for often as not he beat FOX.

For the most parts MSNBC has remaind number three.

I know quite a few young liberals (20 somethings) who simply do not watch cable news, with the daily show and Colbert being a big excepton. They subscribe and binge on shows they like.

It occurs to me that someone needs to reach out to Liberals under the age of forty in a different way.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:12 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

11. It failed because the operators lied about the money they had to invest and then new

investors took over who didn't understand how radio works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_America_(radio_network)

From a personal point of view, the radio corporation that aired AA locally for me, was owned by RWingers so they put it on the lowest frequency station they had. In hilly country it was hard to hear it uninterrupted by weather. When it rained it sometimes stayed off the air for days before they fixed the problem. Then one day they put on different programming and no one aired any progressive radio again. It is the same to this day. The radio owners are all right wingers who prefer to put clowns on like Rush Limbaugh and company instead of good radio hosts.

It seemed like this was happening around the country because radio has been monopolized into about four giant companies all owned and run by reich wingers. None will ever have a chance unless government break up the monopolies and there is true competition in the business.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:10 PM

Adenoid_Hynkel (14,093 posts)

25. yup. ratings weren't the issue

 

It was the grifters who screwed the effort from day one.

Many AAR shows had decent numbers, as far as listeners go. Had the network had secure financing, it could have grown into something great.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:15 PM

Adenoid_Hynkel (14,093 posts)

27. I always thought Sam Seder would have drawn younger viewers

 

look how great his old radio partner Maron is doing. They run in the same circles, and he could have brought all his comedy pals like David Cross to a show.

He could have been MSNBC's Stewart.

Cenk could have worked, too, had MSNBC let him do his thing and not blanded-down his show.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:10 PM

Star Member Greybnk48 (10,027 posts)

5. He's on at 4:00 CST.

When he was prime time his numbers were much higher. They've been trying to trash him for a while.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:10 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

6. See my post #4 above. eom

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:12 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

7. I have been trying to find it at all the usual websites and Google and I get crickets.

Alex Wagner got canceled too.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:24 PM

olddots (10,237 posts)

13. wouldn't it be odd ( not really ) if MSNBC

 

Was starting rumors so we would all watch Ed's show before it is shut down ?

I don't trust main stream media and MSNBC ia very mainstream .
Air America was constantly stopping maybe it could be reborn with a great talent pool the 1% are afraid of.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:20 PM

PoliticAverse (26,366 posts)

15. His show has been canceled officially. Tomorrow is his final show...

See: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-cancels-the-cycle/

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:12 PM

Adenoid_Hynkel (14,093 posts)

26. Meanwhile, Morning Joe gets to plod along with low ratings

 

Because, for whatever reason, Joe DeadIntern is unfireable at "lib'rul" MSNBC.

Gotta keep the Trump slobberfest going in the mornings.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:20 PM

Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)

16. According to "The New Civil Rights Movement" Friday is the last day. (link below)

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/msnbc_cancels_three_shows_hands_out_pink_slips

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:00 PM

Buns_of_Fire (16,702 posts)

35. Ed wasn't there today (Thursday). Michael Eric Dyson hosted.

I hope he's there for the last day, at least. The suits might be afraid to let him play it out, thinking he might pull a Howard Beale on them.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:28 PM

Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)

17. MSNBC is changing to a breaking new format, according ot the article.

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/msnbc_cancels_three_shows_hands_out_pink_slips

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:58 PM

ChiciB1 (15,435 posts)

22. WELL, Thanks For ALL The Info, I WAS NOT Aware

that the other two shows were being axed too! Sooooooo, I guess MSNBC will no longer be part of my viewing anymore. Been watching (listening) to FSTV from 8:00 AM to 3:00 PM already, and just filled in with MSNBC for those several hours until FSTV has something that interests me. Joe Papantonio is becoming one of my regulars so that covers a great deal of information for me along with my internet connections.

I won't be missing the silly crap anyway, it's been a fill in because it's been a gauge of what so many others followers talk about. Thanks for all the info.

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 02:03 PM

Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)

49. Your welcome.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:17 PM

Adenoid_Hynkel (14,093 posts)

28. We get that hack Chuck Todd and his beltway cocktail party friends now

 

Lots of out-of-touch "conventional wisdom" to follow

Chuckles even brought back that old racist, anti-semite Hitler defender Pat Buchanan for last Sunday's "Meet The Press."

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:20 PM

SusanCalvin (6,592 posts)

39. "Chuck Todd will bring his unmatched brand of political insight and analysis"

Barf.

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 02:05 PM

Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)

50. I wished for Olberman, and forgot my father's saying, wish in one hand, shit in the other, see which

one gets full first.

I wished of Olberman, and my hand is full of Chuck Todd.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:09 PM

Adenoid_Hynkel (14,093 posts)

24. Ed should never have given up his radio show

 

He thrived there. He's never been a good fit for TV.

When his show left the air, a lot of progressive stations switched to sports (our local one did), as they no longer had a star to anchor their line-ups.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:21 PM

Jim Beard (2,535 posts)

40. Its tough for liberal radio

 

Stephanie Miller is fighting for dear life to keep broadcasting. Cut staff and doing show from her home. Conservatives own the radio stations and don't want liberals how much it cost them. They are losing money with some of the conservative programs but they don't care. It isn't about profit, its about propaganda.

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:43 PM

BlueStateLib (937 posts)

32. I DVRed Ed Schultz Show today

and he wasn't there, I wonder if he will do a farewell show on Friday

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Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:48 PM

Star Member Mira (22,359 posts)

33. I think I read Friday is his last show

and the same for the others that are canceled.

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:07 AM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

42. It was just announced earlier. Ed wasn't even hosting today.

I doubt if he will tomorrow either. I guess he's gone.

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 04:11 PM

jwirr (39,215 posts)

51. He was not there last night and from his video it sounds like he is not going back. He said he is

in Canada fishing.

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 04:21 PM

Tarheel_Dem (31,144 posts)

52. Ed's show is cancelled for the exact same reason as Joy Reid, Ronan, The Cycle, Karen Finney, etc.

RATINGS & $$$$$$$$!!!!

Stop with the tinfoil shit. I know it baffles some of you that folks didn't fall in love with Ed & Cenk, but there's always a reason, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a conspiracy. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best.

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Fri Jul 31, 2015, 05:06 PM

PragmaticLiberal (903 posts)

53. Thank you.

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