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FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 11:05 AM Aug 2015

Trade Deal Targets Medicare, New Leak Reveals

Trade Deal Targets Medicare, New Leak Reveals

For the second time in a week, Medicare is complicating an already fraught debate over the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal.

A recent draft of the health care transparency section of TPP released by Wikileaks on Wednesday reveals the deal would make Medicare vulnerable to legal challenges from pharmaceutical companies and jeopardize future attempts by the insurer to negotiate lower drug prices.

In a modest victory for global health care advocates, however, the leaked draft does not contain previous language explicitly protecting prescription drug prices from being marked down by government insurers.


“The language previously was a little more specifically designed to attack the reimbursement rates” of government drug insurance programs, Maybarduk told The Huffington Post. “Now it is more about process rather than outcomes,” but the intent to undermine government drug price negotiation remains the same.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/10/tpp-medicare-leak_n_7555232.html
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Trade Deal Targets Medicare, New Leak Reveals (Original Post) FreakinDJ Aug 2015 OP
Well that sucks. We seem to be damned if we do and Autumn Aug 2015 #1
No, it's only damned if we do. PSPS Aug 2015 #6
There is an upside.... AllyCat Aug 2015 #8
And we can all be Oilygarchs! Just work hard, don't complain erronis Aug 2015 #16
Everyone can join the oligarchy. That's what the loto is for. L0oniX Aug 2015 #18
A simple solution- ruffburr Aug 2015 #2
How can anyone who calls themselves a Democrat support this Jake2413 Aug 2015 #3
What they are calling a Democrat is really strange lately n/t Hydra Aug 2015 #4
Funny how Jeb Bush was recently talking about cutting Medicare, and revealed a huge, Marr Aug 2015 #5
Wasn't Obama all giddy over working with the Republicans on the chained CPI? jalan48 Aug 2015 #7
Of course. hifiguy Aug 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Aug 2015 #12
The Clintons were certainly lavishly rewarded for hifiguy Aug 2015 #23
...and now our/their party is chosing another oligarchy friend. L0oniX Aug 2015 #13
Well, old people. I guess we get to go die in a ditch with the feral cats. Cleita Aug 2015 #9
Mass graves. erronis Aug 2015 #15
The TPP oligarchy will have us being burried in China... L0oniX Aug 2015 #17
Hell, no. They will just dessicate us and burn us for fuel in their factories. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #19
Yep. hifiguy Aug 2015 #25
Damn the oligarchy drug dealers! L0oniX Aug 2015 #11
TPP = TOTAL PLANET PRIVATIZATION! Zorra Aug 2015 #14
Legalese. Please explain how this is going to work? jwirr Aug 2015 #20
You can read the linked article FreakinDJ Aug 2015 #21
Thank you. It would appear that when it comes to drugs we are not going to be able to work to jwirr Aug 2015 #24
The fact Medicare can't negotiate drug prices now is absolutely ridiculous. Vinca Aug 2015 #22
We have to invade Canada to get the same drugs for half the price. L0oniX Aug 2015 #26

PSPS

(15,320 posts)
6. No, it's only damned if we do.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 12:47 PM
Aug 2015

There really is little or no upside to this travesty.

erronis

(23,869 posts)
16. And we can all be Oilygarchs! Just work hard, don't complain
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:10 PM
Aug 2015

And be born into the right family.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
5. Funny how Jeb Bush was recently talking about cutting Medicare, and revealed a huge,
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 12:29 PM
Aug 2015

bubble-grown disconnect with average people, who actually like Medicare.

And yet our whole establishment, Republican and Democrat alike, seem to be on the same page with things like this. It's almost like the work for the same interests.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
10. Of course.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 01:59 PM
Aug 2015

He has been a fine friend of the oligarchs since the day be was sworn in.

Response to hifiguy (Reply #10)

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
23. The Clintons were certainly lavishly rewarded for
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:49 PM
Aug 2015

the wildly profitable services Bill provided to the plutocratic class: banking deregulation, NAFTA and the Telecom Act. I am sure Obama noticed and wants in on some of that action. He sure as hell doesn't want to be building houses for charity with Jimmy Carter.

And if he's really lucky he will be invited to become an honorary member of the Bush Crime Family, like Bill and Hill have.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
9. Well, old people. I guess we get to go die in a ditch with the feral cats.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 01:46 PM
Aug 2015

Something I don't need to hear in my old age when I don't have the time, resources or strength to fight this.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
17. The TPP oligarchy will have us being burried in China...
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:12 PM
Aug 2015

cause it's cheaper and they don't mind the pollution.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
25. Yep.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:54 PM
Aug 2015

An extensive, yet passive culling of the herd has been on the boards ever since War Criminal (and BFF of Hillary Clinton, don't ever forget that, kids!) Henry Kissinger let the cat out of the bag and started talking about the need to reduce the number of useless eaters on the planet some 40 years ago. Destroy the social safety net and simply neglect people to death - creating the conditions for starvation, rampant disease and lack of shelter to do their work is dirt cheap, unlike spendy and attention-grabbing concentration/extermination camps.

Let the magic of the market facilitate the planned die-off!!!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
24. Thank you. It would appear that when it comes to drugs we are not going to be able to work to
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:52 PM
Aug 2015

keep the costs down. I already have a grandson who needs a pill that will cost $1000 for each pill. The insurance is saying no even though he can die from the problem.

What I really do not understand is why they are doing this when it can really hurt the ACA by raising drug costs. All the Rs need is a reason to get rid of it. This could be it.

Oh, that's right this is targeting Medicare not ACA. To bad for the elderly.

Vinca

(53,986 posts)
22. The fact Medicare can't negotiate drug prices now is absolutely ridiculous.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 02:29 PM
Aug 2015

In fact, it's negligence on the part of the Congress to require Medicare to buy drugs without negotiating. The TPP is only adding fuel to an already burning fire.

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