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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you have an active friendship with anyone who opposes your political views?
Was it a conscious decision to seek out a friendship with someone of differing views, of was it was a long-term friendship which just evolved to this point?
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I do have an active friendship with someone who opposes my political views. | |
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I do not have an active friendship with anyone who opposes my political views. | |
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MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Not everything is about politics.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... and I have friends with opposing views with whom I have occasional political debates, some heated.
But our friendship transcends our political leanings.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)We've been friends since we were too young to care about such things.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)I've known the guy since high school. He was a troglodyte then and he is now.
But we agree on some nonpolitical stuff and he has a sense of humor. So, I tolerate him and actually have real conversations with him - sometimes.
cloudbase
(5,512 posts)It's not hard to disagree agreeably.
brewens
(13,558 posts)They should wise up and realize republican doesn't mean what it used to or what they belive it does anymore. Of course we have a lot of that, but not as bad, going on with our side.
jorno67
(1,986 posts)I'm the long haired hippie freak it a very RED town. Almost everyone I come in contact with believe FOX News is 100% accurate. But you know you still come to like the people you work with or enjoy the same hobby. I usually end our political talks by saying something like "as a liberal I accept that you have a different point of view based on your background, education and religious affiliation".
Courtesy Flush
(4,558 posts)That's life in a red state. Even my wife is just now coming around. It's kind of like being a Muslim in the Bible Belt.
grilled onions
(1,957 posts)Even now it seems strange to hear her comment about a Republican who she thinks is one of the good guys when twenty years ago he was just a bum. It is hard at times but we just don't talk politics much and rarely if she does and I make a comment by email does she ever "defend" her side or address my fears of a new administration.
emilyg
(22,742 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)I have acquaintances, but that's about it. I don't make friends with morons and since I pride myself on who I associate with, it would be beneath me to befriend a Republican.
I do have family members that are Republican, though, and I begrudgingly love them - but that's it.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)She's a Reaganite through and through. She liked Bush I too. She liked Bush II until Katrina. She did like Clinton though. Only Dem aside from Obama she liked. But Obama she is slowly tolerating. I can't even begrudgingly love her.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)But every Republican I've come in contact with that seems rational makes me sick. They say, "hey, I'm not against gay marriage...I'm pro-environment, I believe a woman has the right to choose..." and in every election, they go out and vote for the most extremist, right-wing Republicans on the ballot. I can't tolerate that shit. You support those ideals and yet you vote for reactionist assholes who are the exact opposite because they're Republican? Puhleeze!
vaberella
(24,634 posts)My mum is super pro-abortion and has the experience to prove it. My mum is super pro-environment, but as she likes to say she's a country girl and the city is too polluted. And she became for gay marriage when she met by best friend and felt him and his boyfriend were the most fantastic people on earth. She hates Romney and despite her issues with Obama, will vote Obama.
Betsy Ross
(3,147 posts)is a bit of a libertarian. For Halloween, I dressed as a union thug and he dressed as the 1%. We toss it back and forth in the hallway.
Prometheus Bound
(3,489 posts)Topics covering Romney's sure defeat of President Obama, gay marriage, austerity, torture, Bin Laden's end. What fun.
I ruin all their fun, because everytime one speaks, he expects a chorus of "Damn right!" And then they all look at me, knowing I'm going to spoil it all. We part all friendly like, but I don't know what they say about me after I leave.
Edit: They always invite me back, so maybe they get tired of the groupspeak.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)cheri010353
(127 posts)I have a friend at work who is a Mormon and Conservative (I know - that's redundant). He is intelligent, well-read, keeps himself informed and is a joy to debate. We never insult or demean one another in our discussions and I love his open-mindedness and willingness to listen to and consider my opinions. I know he is a rare bird, but I appreciate his wit and we learn from one another. It is fun and stimulating to my intellect to talk to people with differing views. I wish there were more around like him.
abolugi
(417 posts)my best friend is a republican. I've known her for over 25 years. It seems over the years I've gotten more liberal and she has gotten more conservative. Her ignorance on current events irk me and she is on food stamps and unemployment but will vote repub every time because she thinks they want her guns. We don't talk politics much but she knows I love Obama and I know she hates him...
But she has been a great friend and is very generous and helpful. And I love her very much.
I swear, I don't get why she is such a teabagger! She just will not listen to facts. All she watches is Faux and I even tease her that Faux is not real news but she choose not to hear it....
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I don't beat any of my lifelong friends over the head with my political beliefs. When we "Ziggy Ziggy Ziggy Oy Oy Oy!" the only thing that's important to us is the fact that we're a gang of about 30 who've been arm-in-arm friends for 30+ years. We don't talk politics EVER.
Politics can seriously fuck up your life if you let it.
We don't let it.
ananda
(28,856 posts)I do have a FB friend who is more hawkish than I am and a bit more conservative.
But he's not an extremist or a teabagger. Our commonality comes through art.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)I will say that I'm a curmudgeon anyway, very wary, I keep a professional distance. I've trusted before and been shit upon so I tend to be reserved in my friendships. That said, I guess I just have left behind all of my Rethug acquaintances/friends. I've grown out of them. Now I simply screen them out.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)One always was ( and is ) a hardcore Republican, and the other 2 were center/left ( at least economic-wise ) but went sharply rightward after Barack Obama was elected president. We both share many common non-political interests and other than the first mentioned, try to keep political discussion in abeyance. None of them really read in deeper than "talking heads" on TV level and it's funny hearing them try to sound more knowledgeable than they are by their clumsy and obvious attempts at paraphrasing the latest right-wing talking points to make them seem like they've arrived at their opinions objectively.
I must say though out my friendships are straining now. Anymore, neither of them just won't STFU about politics; and it seems they try to politicize whatever is being talked about. I'm just hoping at least the latter two will just give up after this november.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)We don't talk politics.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)not as braindead conservative as the average Mormon though- I'd say maybe center right.
We don't talk politics or religion.
i've a couple of winger relatives, but no friends of that ilk. i recently found out that my maternal grandfather (RIP) whom i loved dearly was a lifelong orange county (ca) republican, as were his children and extended family (excluding my mother).
dad was always a dem, and mom voted like him. dad's gone now too, but mom is still a staunch dem. however, her younger sister, my aunt, is always forwarding nasty emails about obama to her, which she promptly discards without reading. my aunt (and her husband) are Xtian fundies too.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)I don't know anybody who is a RWer (but then again, I do live in the Bay Area). All the ones I have seen have either been on TV or on the Internet. And I have yet to get along with any who I encounter on the Internet.
The closest I've gotten to meeting someone of differing politics are a couple of counselors at my college who told me they voted for the Greens in '08.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I couldn't imagine what it's like having a conservative in my immediate family. Many DUers have to deal with that I'm sure.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)Aside from Clinton, she supported only Republicans. When Katrina happened, she felt Bush hated Black people. Then moved away, but still kept the thinking process. She's Caribbean, a lot of Caribbean people are actually Republicans. Mainly because of being highly religious and they hate government involvement. Thing is, after Katrina she supported Dems. Mainly Obama. Currently though, you ask her about Obama and she has a myriad of complaints.
My dad was a Dem. Hardcore Dem. Only voted Dem. The first time my dad voted for a Repub it was Bush. Mainly because he did not want to, or did get involved in the Haiti during the Aristide thing. Aristide says otherwise, most Haitian news said America helped him get out, but didn't help the coup d'etat. He did not like Aristide. However, if my dad was alive today he would vote for Obama.
However, despite my family being split in the middle politically and both were union members. Both weren't happy with unions. I on the other hand love unions and want everyone unionized. I am independent---and if I could vote all progressive thinkers in office I would. I believe being a progressive doesn't shine on one political party. For all intents and purposes many Repubs can be called progressive for siding with the right side of history. While, one too many Dems, a few blue dogs, are far from progressive. Hence my political status. My sister though, straight hard core Dem.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)One of my good friends from high school is a hard core Republican. He dares not even discuss politics with me anymore because I absolutely own and destroy him. It's not a fair fight.
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)but he's moved slightly to the left over the years. He's still mostly a conservative, but he thinks income taxes are a good idea and he agrees with me that Germany's system of requiring Union members be on the boards of the companies they work for to be a good idea.
H2O Man
(73,525 posts)Several, in fact.
LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)but I don't think I have any friends who would correspond to right-wing Republicans or teabaggers in America.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)It's very educational.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)We don't have to agree on everything.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Prometheus Bound
(3,489 posts)If you can keep your sense of humour during the discussions and pretend to show a little understanding for their views, you can really change people's attitudes.
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GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)I have friends who differ from me on varying levels. Only the ones pretty much agree with me on everything are "close" friends. Lord knows I have tried being good friends with righties, but there have always been things that come as part of the package that I just can't live with. Extreme religiosity being one of them. It tends to be very hypocritical, at that. And, around here, there's also often underlying racism, which automatically prevents any friendship in my book. It's really difficult for liberals to become friends with conservatives in my town, because they're always bashing liberals. Why would I want to be friends with someone who thinks that my political beliefs make me "goddamned", "filthy", etc.? Needless to say, I tend to avoid most conservatives like the plague.
pecwae
(8,021 posts)Friendship, true and lasting, can be rare. I cherish my friends no matter what their politics might be. We know we disagree on certain things and let it go at that.
StitchesforSnitches
(45 posts)I cut them all out of my life include family members. They are for all intensive purposes dead to me. I even refuse to acknowledge their existence even if they are in the same room as me.
Best thing I ever did.
madokie
(51,076 posts)but theres getting to be fewer and fewer all the time
Kaleva
(36,291 posts)NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)And we don't talk about politics.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)She was't always this way but she has become more religious and conservative as we've gotten older. We meet as a group once a month and while she is interesting and has a great sense of humor, it's tough to keep a level head at times. We don't avoid topics but try to remain civil. I'm sure she just tolerates me at this point.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Some of us don't have political conversations and some of us engage in very spirited political debates.
treestar
(82,383 posts)They seem to be control freaks and conservatism appeals because of that, with its simple conclusions. They don't like to hear about anything that disturbs their set-up of the way things ought to be. I even think they know on some level but want to hang onto their simple view of the world.
Iggo
(47,546 posts)I've got some family, and a couple of in-laws, but that can't be helped.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)IcyPeas
(21,856 posts)and one is a recovering alcoholic and christian who believes the earth is 6000 years old. seriously. the odd thing is she is a smart woman otherwise - I just don't get it.
we just know not to get in to those subjects with each other.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)to never talk politics or religion. So far, its been nice.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)RZM
(8,556 posts)That would be a pretty bad way, IMO, to find real friends.
If anything, what attracts me to people is interest in politics/world affairs. I would probably have more to talk about with a Republican who follows these things than with a Democrat who doesn't.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Doc_Technical
(3,522 posts)n/t
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)On a few things we disagree. On most we don't.