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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Sat May 19, 2012, 05:51 AM May 2012

Where Are the Missing Five Million Workers?

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/274-41/11496-where-are-the-missing-five-million-workers

Where have all the workers gone?" David Wessel of the Wall St. Journal wondered about the labor force this week:

“In the past two years, the number of people in the U.S. who are older than 16 (and not in the military or prison) has grown by 5.4 million. The number of people working or looking for work hasn't grown at all.”

So, where have all the workers gone? Have they retired, suspended their labors temporarily, or are they languishing on public assistance? Asks Wessel.

There are some other possibilities. Since the crash of 2008 there’s no question that millions of Americans have indeed stopped looking for a job. But that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re not working. Look around, it’s much more likely that the officially “unemployed” are busy, doing their best to make ends meet in whatever ways they can. Sex-work drugs and crime spring to mind, but the underground or “shadow” economy includes all sorts of off-the-books toil. From baby-sitting, bartering, mending, kitchen-garden farming, and selling goods in a yard sale, all sorts of people -- from the tamale seller on your corner, to the dancer who teachers yoga – are all contributing to the underground economy along with “employed” who pay them for their wares.

The “underground” is always with us. For better and often for worse, it’s how marginalized populations tend to survive —often not very well. (Think of the old, the young, the formerly incarcerated, or foreign.) In recessions – surprise, surprise– “irregular” employment grows. Consider recent stories from Greece, about wageless public “workers” swopping skills, and trading food for teaching. Austrian economist, Friedrich Schneider, an expert in underground economies, has documentd a surge in shadow economy activity in 2009 and ’10 in Europe. University of Wisconsin-Madison economist Edgar Feige has been doing his best to follow what’s happened here.

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“Let us remind ourselves that the informal economy is, in fact, the larger part of the world's total economy. When you add in the domestic and household economy of the world's households, the subsistence economy, the barter economy, the volunteer economy, the "under the table" economy, the criminal economy and a few other smaller players, you get something that adds up to 3/4 of the world's total economic activity. The formal economy - the territory of professional and paid work, of tax statements and GDP - is only 1/4 of the world's total economic activity.”

Looking ahead at our employment and energy future, it’s not at all clear what the economy will look like in years to come. With fewer dirty satanic mills to labor in, regular Joe and Jane workers are going to have find income that doesn’t depend on them transmuting into celebrities or high-rolling mobsters of high finance. What are they going to do? For those who believe that stocks and bonds and 9-5 jobs are the only economy there is, the picture's dire.
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bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
1. The BabyBoomer generation is retiring at an increasingly high rate.
Sat May 19, 2012, 07:21 AM
May 2012

Babyboomers are by far the largest, most highly skilled group in american. Their retirement numbers swamp those of babies of babybusters reaching age sixteen or older. Babyboomer retirements will have a warping effect on USA labor within the next 2 years, creating critical worker shortages that will negatively impact the capacity of companies to operate efficiently.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
2. Some are forced to work off the books
Sat May 19, 2012, 07:38 AM
May 2012

just so their employers don't need to adhere to labor laws.


Simply more exploitation of the masses by the wealthy and powerful.


NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
3. Have an unemployed sister in-law who takes care of her mother with alzheimer's
Sat May 19, 2012, 07:50 AM
May 2012

Doesn't pay much(just room and board and a little spending money) but it is more than a full time job.

My wife and I have my mother with dementia living with us.

Imagine there is a lot of that going on with the number of elderly people increasing.

Don

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
5. If you are unemployed and have been discouraged for more than a year, you're removed.
Sun May 20, 2012, 02:48 AM
May 2012

You are not showing up in the unemployment numbers.

The popularly followed unemployment measure reported in the media is the U3 unemployment index, which is hovering around 8%.

The U6 unemployment index is the broadest measure of unemployment reported by the BLS.

To date, that index stands at just under 15% unemployment.

However, if you added in back all those workers who have both depleted their unemployment insurance and have been discouraged for more than a year, you're looking at a number that could be far north of just 15%. The most pessimistic numbers are numbers around the 20% unemployment range. If true, you're in a job market not much better than during the Great Depression. The only major difference is that unlike then, people have Social Security, food stamps, low income housing, and other programs to help them scrape by.

These programs are preventing the misery from being worse than what it already is, and some are seeking to destroy this safety net.

If they want people to starve to death on the streets like they did back in 1932, so be it. They'll just do nothing but antagonize an already angry and desperate workforce, and the people might do something "stupid" and try another Franklin Roosevelt out of sheer desperation, and if the people are truly ignorant and self-destructive, they'll elect somebody who thinks Adolf Hitler's solution to the Great Depression was a good idea: Mobilization and the waging of war.

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