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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207319053157888&set=p.10207319053157888&type=1&pnref=storyYou decide!
Seen this reported in a few places and mentioned on Twitter. Also read that BLM has apologized for the disruption. Help me find the truth about this.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Her friends seem to be rather zealous too!
Melissa Robinson Johnson Palin 2016
1 · July 20 at 10:47am
Sarah Palin 2016!?! wtf
Dwayne Hicks
(637 posts)Looks like a right wing schill to me.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)And it's quite apparent that BLM leadership is just using the movement as a vehicle for their own power-trip. At some point the rank and file will figure out they're being played, while leaders are being paid.
pugetres
(507 posts)The apology (on both twitter and facebook) was put out by a young woman in Seattle. She says she is a 16 year old who wanted to be involved in the BLM movement and didn't mean any harm. I believe her. She has been operating the facebook page since Feb and the kid seems sincere. Her facebook page has been renamed and her twitter account deleted since BLM contacted her voicing their displeasure about her claiming to be a part of their group.
Her latest post on her now renamed facebook page (Used to be called Black Lives Matter Seattle now it is called Black in Seattle):
1.) I started this page under the name Black Lives Matter Seattle with out realizing I had to check with the official chapter members of Seattle and the national network. The name has since been changed to Black in Seattle
2.) The two women that were at the rally yesterday were actually members of BLM Seattle
3.) I have spoken to them and as far as I know, they are not conspirators with any other democratic candidates or the GOP
4.) I personally support Bernie Sanders. But I can not apologize for them or speak for them about what happened yesterday and they have not apologized
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)My reaction when I saw the video from Seattle was that this woman was a twit. This confirms it. Palin?????
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)jmowreader
(53,168 posts)BLM appears, to me at least, to be an organization with no real centralized leadership. I wouldn't put it past the Republicans to start a few strategically placed BLM groups to discredit the whole movement.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)about how the GOP should have groomed her right then. Something's not right about this woman.
melman
(7,681 posts)she's a suggestible person that was looking for something to latch onto. A joiner in other words.
glinda
(14,807 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)be the center of something and have plenty of suckers to manipulate.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Her "personal philosophy", reproduced in the OP of this thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027060520 , reads like something Charlie Manson concocted in one of his less lucid moments.
Crazier than a shithouse rat, that one..
Brother Buzz
(39,878 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)
They were so happy together, back then.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Imagine The Donald serenading Hillary over the phone:
If I should call you up, invest a dime
And you say you belong to me
And ease my mind
Imagine how the world could be
So very fine
So happy together
It's creepy... Hillary looks at The Donald the same way Monica looked at The Wizard of Is.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)The guy is now worth $10 billion? How many of his thousands of employees are in a union?
Truly,what a great country.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Dinner parties with disliked industry vendors are both a part of my job description and something I tolerate. Though I can imagine the irrational and undisciplined mind would jump to associate me with any of them if it better fit their biases-- though I think a list of blue links and irrelevant text would serve them even better as part of their moon-landing denial toolkit.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Hillary sucks up to the middle class: What her TPP flip-flop is really about
The presidential hopeful is trying to distance herself from the 12-nation trade deal. She can't escape her record
DAVID SIROTA
Salon, Aug. 7, 2015
EXCERPT...
I did not work on TPP, she said after a meeting with leaders of labor unions who oppose the pact. I advocated for a multinational trade agreement that would be the gold standard. But that was the responsibility of the United States Trade Representative.
The trouble, of course, is that Clintons declaration does not square with the facts.
CNN has reported that during her tenure as U.S. secretary of state, Clinton publicly promoted the pact 45 separate times. At a congressional hearing in 2011, Clinton told lawmakers that with respect to the TPP, although the State Department does not have the lead on this it is the United States Trade Representative we work closely with the USTR. Additionally, secret State Department cables published by the website WikiLeaks show that her agency including her top aides were deeply involved in the diplomatic deliberations over the trade deal.
In a series of cables in late 2009 and 2010, State Department officials outlined their extensive discussions about the pact with government officials from New Zealand. At one point, State Department officials in that country requested an additional employee to specifically allow the Economics Officer to focus on preparations for Trans-Pacific Partnership trade negotiations.
Similarly, a September 2009 cable detailed Clintons Deputy Secretary of State, James Steinberg, specifically discussing the TPP with Vietnams Deputy Prime Minister. In a November 2009 cable, the U.S. embassy in Tokyo detailed TPP discussions between Japanese government officials and Robert Hormats, a former Goldman Sachs executive who was then serving as Clintons undersecretary of state. In a December 2009 cable, State Department officials in Hanoi reported that the U.S. Ambassador hosted a dinner on December 21 for Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Agreement country representatives. The cable thanked the Clinton-run State Department for providing regular updates that have been key to helping us answer the many TPP-related inquiries we receive.
CONTINUED...
http://www.salon.com/2015/08/07/hillary_sucks_up_to_the_middle_class_what_her_tpp_flip_flop_is_really_about_partner/
I wonder what else Goldman Sachs does, all legal-like, LanternWaste?

btw: How does that fit in with your worldview on "the irrational and undisciplined mind would jump to associate me with any of them if it better fit their biases-- though I think a list of blue links and irrelevant text would serve them even better as part of their moon-landing denial toolkit"?
backscatter712
(26,357 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)gee, i wonder why she's not disrupting the GOP candidates?
Hmmmmm.
markpkessinger
(8,909 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Like bear droppings, an official Sarah Palin button carries great weight on the GOP tea scale.
Marr
(20,317 posts)But that's just me.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)As far as I am concerned they all owe the rest of DU a public apology for their complete idiocy about this entire incident.
Marr
(20,317 posts)Some of the accusations I've seen around this issue have been just sickeningly over the line and intentionally divisive. Honestly though, I think I'd settle for a bit of critical thought next time some idiots choose to sabotage Hillary's competition, rather than just mindlessly backing them up because hey, fuck that guy.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)I tried but the file is too big for my old computer to handle opening.
TDale313
(7,822 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)dupes caught up in homeland security terror plots.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)She wore a Palin button in high school does not mean she is a Republican. Glad we're looking into her background, let's not think we have answers we don't have though.
Anyone have more than that to say she is a Republican or is workign on their behalf? One of her posts seems to indicate otherwise:
Marissa Jenae GOP shoulda groomed me right then...now they gotta see me on the other side *shrugs*
JHB
(38,178 posts)One of McCain's rationales for picking Palin was that religious conservatives liked her. Johnson would have been about 16 at the time, and only a couple of years later she went to a religiously-oriented college, first majoring in business administrations, then switching to theology. She's described herself as a church lady. So a very religious conservative-favoring person probably didn't have much use for white progressives back then.
Later, she becomes radicalized at some point and joins BLM by last November (news reports from a Black Friday protest quote her as an organizer, so it's not as if she popped up at the event Bernie was at), but still has no use for white progressives.
It's hardly out of the ordinary for someone who has radically changed on some points to still grind an axe about old foes. And it makes a whole lot more sense than the Republicans (or Hillary, depending on the theory du jour) planting an operative in BLM months before Bernie declared a run, just for the chance that he would come to Seattle and appear at an event that they'd be able to disrupt.
Just because ratfucking exists doesn't mean everything is ratfucking.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)Doesn't mean I agree with her militant activism but I can't condemn it. Something close to her may have really changed her views. The black slayings potentially triggered it.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)there is no reason she would have to have been planted beforehand, more likely is someone contacted them because they were already in that group, asking them to disrupt Sanders.
I agree, though, there doesn't have to be any such person or agent behind her, and I'm not saying there is, just sorting through the few things we know.
Do you know how old she is now? Plenty of us believe something in our teens (Palin or possibly conservatism in her case) that we no longer buy into fairly soon thereafter, it is a dynamic period of life. I was raised fundie christian myself and didn't break out of it until late teens, very difficult too, that programming goes deep. I read she had some Palin 2016 something or other on her Facebook page, that didn't sound good, didn't see it myself though, maybe I'll take another look.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)I think that she's convinced that voting for a woman is progressive - even Sarah Palin or Hillary Clinton.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Gneder qualifies nor disqualifies. Actions and ideas do.
For that matter: her idea of acting in this way: not smart. Those with skeletons in the cupboard should not cast stones at those who only have tea and cookies in theirs.