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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan we ever have a debt crisis? (Krugman answers)
jessefrederik May 19th, 2012 at 2:23 pm 31
Mr Krugman,
How much does the currency user/currency issuer distinction matter? Will the bond markets ever turn on Japan/US/UK?
Mr Krugman,
How much does the currency user/currency issuer distinction matter? Will the bond markets ever turn on Japan/US/UK?
Paul Krugman May 19th, 2012 at 2:32 pm 45In response to jessefrederik @ 31
For those not clued in, all of the debt crisis countries right now are either countries that gave up their own currencies for the euro, or borrowed heavily in someone elses currency (Hungary). Countries that issue their own currency and borrow in it, like us, the British, and the Japanese are able to borrow at very low rates even when, like Japan, they have high debt levels.
So can they (and we) ever have a debt crisis? I think so, but it takes much higher levels of debt than even the Japanese have. People have to believe that theres no way they can service the debt without printing lots of money, even once the economy has recovered.
The closest parallel Ive been able to come up with (too deep in the weeds, but I cant help myself) is France after World War I, which had its own currency but a basically impossible level of debt. Even so, the consequences werent catastrophic: a sharp drop in the franc, a brief bout of inflation that reduced the real value of the debt, and a return to stability.
The important point for now is that America is nothing, nothing like Greece that is, unless the austerians push us into a full-on depression out of misplaced fear that were going to turn into Greece
http://fdlbooksalon.com/2012/05/19/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-paul-krugman-end-this-depression-now/#comment-2219961
For those not clued in, all of the debt crisis countries right now are either countries that gave up their own currencies for the euro, or borrowed heavily in someone elses currency (Hungary). Countries that issue their own currency and borrow in it, like us, the British, and the Japanese are able to borrow at very low rates even when, like Japan, they have high debt levels.
So can they (and we) ever have a debt crisis? I think so, but it takes much higher levels of debt than even the Japanese have. People have to believe that theres no way they can service the debt without printing lots of money, even once the economy has recovered.
The closest parallel Ive been able to come up with (too deep in the weeds, but I cant help myself) is France after World War I, which had its own currency but a basically impossible level of debt. Even so, the consequences werent catastrophic: a sharp drop in the franc, a brief bout of inflation that reduced the real value of the debt, and a return to stability.
The important point for now is that America is nothing, nothing like Greece that is, unless the austerians push us into a full-on depression out of misplaced fear that were going to turn into Greece
http://fdlbooksalon.com/2012/05/19/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-paul-krugman-end-this-depression-now/#comment-2219961
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Can we ever have a debt crisis? (Krugman answers) (Original Post)
cthulu2016
May 2012
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dkf
(37,305 posts)1. Our rates are low because the Fed buys the majority of our new issues.
I guess the question is if the Fed can buy up all the extra treasuries in perpetuity and in unlimited amounts.
pscot
(21,044 posts)2. Bonds don't circulate
so the fed can issue as many as they like without creating inflation. They just keep passing the paper from one hand to the other. I think that's what Krugman is getting at.