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struggle4progress

(118,350 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:04 AM Aug 2015

My sister was killed in the Charleston church shooting

Removing the Confederate flag isn’t nearly enough.
Sure, it's a symbol. But our government needs to do much more to protect African Americans
By Malcolm Graham
August 12 at 6:00 AM

... She was a sister, the fourth of six kids. When my parents died 25 years ago, she became the family matriarch, taking charge and making sure that even my oldest brother, Robert, marched in line.

She was an aunt who spoiled my two daughters with books and trips to Charleston. She was involved – sometimes, as a father I have to say, too involved – in their lives. I called her every Sunday from Charlotte to keep up with the rest of the family in Charleston — she had the scoop on everyone.

She was a dedicated librarian for 31 years, helping kids solve their problems. Before the Internet, my big sister, the nerd, read every word of the World Book encyclopedia. When the traveling salesman finally delivered the last volume to our house, she was so excited. That was her first library, her escape. She served on the housing authority board in Charleston, and took seriously the important work of providing safe, affordable and decent shelter for all. She worried that gentrification was driving some African Americans out of the center city.

In the days after the shooting, South Carolina honored those killed by removing the Confederate flag from the state house. It’s a meaningful gesture. But we cannot stop there ...


https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/08/12/my-sister-was-killed-in-the-charleston-church-shooting-removing-the-confederate-flag-isnt-nearly-enough/

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My sister was killed in the Charleston church shooting (Original Post) struggle4progress Aug 2015 OP
Last line... Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #1
YES! passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #18
Thanks for this malaise Aug 2015 #2
From the article. Sissyk Aug 2015 #3
Removing the Dixie Swastika and racist statues in a few places is how white America has managed to excuse Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #4
No, there is more to it than meets the eye. mmonk Aug 2015 #5
Powerful. H2O Man Aug 2015 #6
What a beautiful woman. I grieve for the loss of her and the others in that tragedy. erronis Aug 2015 #7
Much more to do. Absolutely. But where to start? One of the things I would like to see Congress jwirr Aug 2015 #8
Agree strongly. Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2015 #11
Laws are a start AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #12
Well in general I agree with you but I have no reason to agree. My father quit school in 8th grade jwirr Aug 2015 #13
I speak in general terms AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #14
I know that is why I did not disagree with you. jwirr Aug 2015 #15
That's so true. Laws do not change hearts and minds. Boomerproud Aug 2015 #21
"It’s a meaningful gesture. But we cannot stop there ..." blackspade Aug 2015 #9
Good article ShrimpPoboy Aug 2015 #10
So sorry this wonderful human helper is gone. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #16
They light our way, those sisters of ours, for we are all brothers and sisters Demeter Aug 2015 #17
+1 brer cat Aug 2015 #23
Cynthia... Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #19
Horrible loss! Boomerproud Aug 2015 #20
It still sickens and enrages me that for all those years after the war the rightful losers Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2015 #22
I hear you Skittles Aug 2015 #25
powerful Skittles Aug 2015 #24
k and r and thank you niyad Aug 2015 #26
K&R BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #27
K&R nt ion_theory Aug 2015 #28

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
3. From the article.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:16 AM
Aug 2015
Ultimately, the flag is just a symbol. Its removal must be the beginning of bigger reforms that empower America’s African Americans. That might mean opposing restrictive laws that prevent minorities in America from voting or pushing states to expand Medicaid and embrace the Affordable Care Act or fighting bias in the courts, which place too many African Americans behind bars for long sentences for minor offenses or before their cases have been heard.

It must also mean addressing the disparity in education funding or the fact that in states such as North Carolina and South Carolina, historically black colleges and universities get funded disproportionately to white institutions. It has to be about confronting the unconscious bias that means that the white Sarah Johnson with a stellar résumé gets a job, while the black Shamika Johnson with the same accolades can’t even get an interview.

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley and U.S. Sen. Tim Scott provided comfort and condolences to the families of the nine who were murdered, and I appreciated that. But it’s their Republican Party that supports many of these policies that affect African Americans. What are they going to do about it? Are they willing to put their seats on the line to challenge members of their own party and lose standing with many conservative voters they once courted?


K&R!

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. Removing the Dixie Swastika and racist statues in a few places is how white America has managed to excuse
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:46 AM
Aug 2015

itself, or self-pretend to, so as to actually not doing anything more meaningful for black folks (Voting Act reformation, anyone?) and also coincidentily forget again to not do anything meaningful about the insanity of 320 million guns that kill them and terrorize everyone.

What, black folks, that is not enough??? And don't you folks know you need permission if you want to protest?

320 million guns...guns....ponder that for a moment.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
5. No, there is more to it than meets the eye.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:48 AM
Aug 2015

Removing the flag indicates that those that say it is heritage, not hate, is false. Then racists are quite easier to identify.

erronis

(15,335 posts)
7. What a beautiful woman. I grieve for the loss of her and the others in that tragedy.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:03 PM
Aug 2015

Hatred of others and mental instability seem to be too connected. And in this society available weapons make that connection very dangerous. (And I don't mean to limit mental instability to those that have been clinically diagnosed - it's present in all of us to some degree.)

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. Much more to do. Absolutely. But where to start? One of the things I would like to see Congress
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:38 PM
Aug 2015

do is compose and present a new Voters Rights reform to give it teeth. The SCOTUS took the teeth out just when we need them the most.

We have a number of Black Caucus people who fought for the first one. I would like to see the Black Caucus and progressives caucus in Congress put together such a bill and present it. THEN we the people should get behind them. Election year is coming. Rs are up for election. We need to do what we can to get this bill passed before the election. This IMO would be a great first start.

Many of the things she talked about needing to be done are states issues and a voting rights bill would go a long ways to help black people and their supporters to take action in their local communities using the vote. The POC in my community are finally realizing just how important the vote is here in our own area and we are making change with it.

The unequal school finding in communities of color is an old issue and since schools are funded with federal money that should be something that could be handled by all of us regardless of color. We should all care if every classroom in the USA has good teachers, books, supplies, computers and the other things children need for a good education. This issue will guarantee that our nation is stronger and that our economy is better. It is not just a minority issue it is an American issue.

She is absolutely right - taking down the flag does not fix any of these other problems. In the long run taking down the flag may not solve any real problems. It was only an admission that we should be working on these problems not that we will be.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
11. Agree strongly.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:26 PM
Aug 2015

And in the mean time we must register people to vote and promote early paper voting so that they can't get away with computer cheating, because we will have a paper record of the votes.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
12. Laws are a start
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:27 PM
Aug 2015

But laws won't change minds. Only education will change minds and I mean education on all sides. A persons level of bigotry is inversely proportional to their parents education level. Educated parents raise informed children. Uneducated parents raise bigots.

It will take generations to change racial attitudes. There is no quick fix.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
13. Well in general I agree with you but I have no reason to agree. My father quit school in 8th grade
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:43 PM
Aug 2015

to help his family. My mother quit as a junior in high school to get married. Everyone of us four children married people of color and live more in their culture than in our own.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
14. I speak in general terms
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:27 PM
Aug 2015
I barely made it past the 7th grade myself . There are always exceptions to the rule especially on the Democratic side.

Boomerproud

(7,964 posts)
21. That's so true. Laws do not change hearts and minds.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 05:37 PM
Aug 2015

All they can do that is meaningful is to give recourse to the agrieved.

ShrimpPoboy

(301 posts)
10. Good article
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:23 PM
Aug 2015

with some worthy suggestions. Unfortunately there's really nothing the government can do to change what's in our hearts and how we teach the next generation, which is ultimately the only way to stop the next determined terrorist. That's a cultural problem that falls on each of us as individuals. Sadly many have no interest in doing so and i truly don't see an end in sight. The next generation is no less hateful than the last.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
22. It still sickens and enrages me that for all those years after the war the rightful losers
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 05:53 PM
Aug 2015

still proudly flew their battle flag on official government property!

It's as much a symbol of hatred and violence as the swastika and should be banned. Yeah, I know, "freedom." Well, sometimes freedom's just another word...

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
25. I hear you
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 06:12 PM
Aug 2015

that flag revolts me; I cannot even imagine what black folk feel when they see it proudly displayed

BumRushDaShow

(129,491 posts)
27. K&R
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 06:49 PM
Aug 2015

And many still mourn their senseless deaths. But hopefully like others before them, it will not be in vain.

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