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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Sun May 20, 2012, 09:45 AM May 2012

Face it, Most of them HATE Obama being a smart, good looking, successful and articulate Black Man!

This is sort of a rant, but this has been bugging me for a while! I hate to simplify it too much but I think I am correct!

I cannot see any other reason to despise this man!

He is not a radical left wing democrat. Hell, many of us think he is not left enough!

He has protected this country and does not despise the military. He has kicked ass on this topic. No one can logically think Obama has been a weak president on military issues!

His policy's have not been radical. No way can anyone think they have! Hell, policy wise I think the Dems have more to be upset about at times than the GOP does.

Hmmmmmmm, is it because he is a Black man, who is smart, who has been successful? Is it because he is clever and witty? Is it because he makes Boehner and the other GOP leaders look stupid in comparison? Is it because he can go on Letterman and crack up an audience and looks damn good doing it? Is it because he can discuss world topics with ease and at the same time talk about the NCAA Final Four in detail?

He is funnier, smarter and more successful than 99% of the GOP voters. And this pisses them off because he is not their color!!!!

And having a wife who is smart, successful and likable makes them even madder.

If I am missing something let me know!



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Face it, Most of them HATE Obama being a smart, good looking, successful and articulate Black Man! (Original Post) Logical May 2012 OP
no, I think you nailed it. veganlush May 2012 #1
This angry CRK7376 May 2012 #47
He has style. randome May 2012 #2
He is also young goclark May 2012 #49
yeah- and he is cool blondie58 May 2012 #3
They have to hate him malaise May 2012 #4
Exactly madokie May 2012 #8
Scary Black Man in the White House..Run awaaaaay SoCalDem May 2012 #5
Thanks for this!! n-t Logical May 2012 #7
Even scarier was I heard this from supposedly educated people... Phentex May 2012 #13
Great post malaise May 2012 #15
You got it right madokie May 2012 #6
Obama slipped through the cracks of oppression and ran with it siligut May 2012 #9
+1 freshwest May 2012 #32
K/R and changing my sigline in Celebration of Our POTUS NYC_SKP May 2012 #10
LOL...+1! Logical May 2012 #12
He never makes his race an issue. undeterred May 2012 #11
And clean - soc7 May 2012 #14
Of course. Amster Dan May 2012 #16
I love watching their faces when you call them on it NNN0LHI May 2012 #17
They despised Bill Clinton to the point of impeaching him. Nye Bevan May 2012 #18
I have to agree with you. The political landscape is so divided right now that any Democrat Arkansas Granny May 2012 #30
I agree, too. But, the race thing... GoCubsGo May 2012 #37
If they ever read " The Six Black Presidents ~ Black Blood, White Masks" goclark May 2012 #51
They despise Democrats & blacks JonLP24 May 2012 #54
Damn right. n/t ProfessionalLeftist May 2012 #19
They've done this to successful black men before... ProfessionalLeftist May 2012 #20
I also read that he has the military vote too, which also must piss them off... n/t ejbr May 2012 #21
I Noticed A Glaring Omission In Your Description Of Michelle Obama...... TinkerTot55 May 2012 #22
Weak self-concepts are threatened by practically anything. Groupthink assuages vulnerabilities. patrice May 2012 #23
What really baffles me lillypaddle May 2012 #24
I agree! I am not happy with many things Obama has done but he is our only choice! Logical May 2012 #29
They only like.... Swede Atlanta May 2012 #25
Of course and don't forget the blatant racism. Cleita May 2012 #26
Jealousy Gregorian May 2012 #27
All about privilage,and,whom has it. Wellstone ruled May 2012 #28
He breaks their memes. toddwv May 2012 #31
He destroys the stereotypes needed to propagate the GOP Southern Strategy. JoePhilly May 2012 #55
Yes likely but this won't work in the Presidential debates. progress2k12nbynd May 2012 #33
The hate part is what I am talking about! Not political differences! Logical May 2012 #39
K & R Scurrilous May 2012 #34
they also hate the fact that you think this way bigtree May 2012 #35
blows MY mind that the only reason to dislike him is race ProdigalJunkMail May 2012 #36
The hatred is because of race! The voting against him may be other reasons! Logical May 2012 #38
ah, ok, sorry...i would be more inclined to believe that ProdigalJunkMail May 2012 #40
Well, that is true. I know maybe I am stretching but this absolute dislike of Obama is.... Logical May 2012 #42
i think everything has become so charged up ProdigalJunkMail May 2012 #44
Not at all. Difficult topic. Logical May 2012 #46
There Are A Lot of White People, Including Some Liberals, That Are Very Uncomfortable with.... Yavin4 May 2012 #41
I think most republicans hate him because they are told to hate him Marrah_G May 2012 #43
this : ProdigalJunkMail May 2012 #45
Some of us have realized this from the jump. CakeGrrl May 2012 #48
They hate him because he has all the abilities they Rex May 2012 #50
Exactly goclark May 2012 #53
No doubt about it. nt Zorra May 2012 #52

veganlush

(2,049 posts)
1. no, I think you nailed it.
Sun May 20, 2012, 10:02 AM
May 2012

I think it accounts for most of it. The angry, ignorant white male is scared, no doubt about it.

CRK7376

(2,198 posts)
47. This angry
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:53 PM
May 2012

white male is absolutely thrilled that there is a black family living in the white house. I'm So glad we have a man with some real brains residing there with his family(also pretty smart family) instead of the Stupids that the GOP push on us. Four more years of a black family living in the white house if you please!!!! Oh yeah, this white military guy is also very proud to call our Black President "Commander in Chief"!

goclark

(30,404 posts)
49. He is also young
Mon May 21, 2012, 01:12 PM
May 2012

According to wikipedia......

Barack Obama was the fifth-youngest person inaugurated as President, at 47 years and 169 days old.

Not sure where his lovely wife ranks in age with other First Ladies but for sure, they both demonstrate every day that AGE MATTERS in 2012.

Whenever I watch him exit his Jet , I worry that he will miss a step but so far ~he takes each step with confidence.

Go My President, Go! Go!


blondie58

(2,570 posts)
3. yeah- and he is cool
Sun May 20, 2012, 10:13 AM
May 2012

He is really a smooth guy. And he has a voice. He can sing. Sounded pretty close to Al Green.

malaise

(268,724 posts)
4. They have to hate him
Sun May 20, 2012, 10:16 AM
May 2012

He has destroyed their caricature of the black man which has been the lynchpin of institutional racism.

Notice the Morris ad - they wanted an articulate intelligent black man to destroy Obama because not one of them is credible and fools like West or KochCain are being laughed to scorn these days.

Obama is the single best role model for young men of all races.
Fuck the racists

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
5. Scary Black Man in the White House..Run awaaaaay
Sun May 20, 2012, 10:19 AM
May 2012

SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-04-09 01:00 PM
Original message

Scary black man in White House...run away, run away.

The nut-cases are doing now, what they could not manage to do in '08....and they are doing it with the aid & comfort of the same media who shut them down last year.

What a difference a year makes.

They were unsuccessful last year because "their" candidate was un-electable, and the press did not want to waste precious time on a bunch of whiny racists. They did show the most outrageous of the bunch who shouted "Kill him" or "Traitor" at Palin rallies, but the coverage was about "free speech" and little more.

Another reason they were unsuccessful last year, was the fact that Hillary Clinton stayed in the race for such a long time, that many of the most racist of the GOP base were torn between two longstanding "hates", and probably waited too long to gin up much rabble-rousing.

There was a time when they tipped their hand though, by suddenly masking their Clinton-hate, and crossing over to actually vote for her (Texas primaries & beyond).. Does anyone really think they all-of-a-sudden "liked" her? and would vote for her over their party-chosen-hack?.. This was when they realized that a black man just might win this thing.

Given a choice between Hillary and "the black guy", they would choose Hillary.. They already hated her, and had a quiverful of arrows just for her, but would need more time to craft a barrage designed especially for a black man... they had to be careful with this attack, or they would be once again be called out on their racism. Republican racism is best left just under the surface..like a stealthy submarine, cruising unnoticed by the masses.

These are the same people who overlooked every blunder that GW made..that was a daily event, for at least 8 long years.

They were willing to suspend disbelief, as he failed to deliver on almost everything he promised them.

They willingly "gave him" their husbands, daughters, fathers, sons, grandsons, etc. to go off and fight in two wars, one a meaningless war for profiteering contractors and friends-of-Bush, the other a hastily exited, poorly executed one in Afghanistan. They were willing to trade their flesh & blood loved ones, for a few lines of text in a paper and a folded flag.

They cooed and clucked as he vacationed his way through two terms, claiming that he "needed his rest", and wasn't he quite a manly figure...with that cowboy hat & that chainsaw.

They looked the other way as he proffered yearly budgets without money for either war, and as he added bloated, yet unfunded spending legislation onto their back (and onto the backs of their progeny).

The editorialists they claim as their own, gleefully climbed aboard the war-bus, and told them all how important and necessary these two wars were, and how the cost was nothing to worry about now, because "it had to be done".

AND THEN THE BLACK GUY WON!

After the initial shock, and the obligatory pats on their own backs for "electing the first black man to be president" (even though 99% of them did not vote for him), they set out to undermine him, even if it meant destroying their party in the process. The ends justify the means.

They cannot attack his intellect..or his stage presence..or his ability to communicate....but he IS still black.

No matter how hard it is to clean up the messes left by "their guy", or how necessary it is to HAVE the mess cleaned up.....for all of us, they are still willing to do everything they can to undermine him.

The only effective tool left to them is FEAR. They have to make him scary, questionable, controversial.

Media is only too happy to comply. they were on their best-behavior last year, because they too, were worried about just how to cover the first black man running for the highest office in the country. After 8 long years of bumbling, stumbling, & stammering, they were happy to finally have a literate, composed and intellectual to cover, and they went all in. But that was then, and this is now.

They could not attack Barack, the black man..but as president, they are unfettered now, and anything goes, so they are happy to report on all the nonsensical birthers, deathers, teabaggers, town-brawlers, gun-toters..

Media coverage, to these people is like water to fish.. It's what they need, in order to exist and to prosper.

So now we are where we are.

The black man is going to scare the children..
The black man wants us all to have health care
The black man is trying to clean up the messes left to us by 30 years of neglect
His wife wears SHORTS
His daughter wears a "Peace" shirt


How dare he!

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
13. Even scarier was I heard this from supposedly educated people...
Sun May 20, 2012, 10:44 AM
May 2012

and not what you'd consider nutcases at all. I think they are just plain racist deep down, but it was so odd to hear these kinds of things coming from them.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
6. You got it right
Sun May 20, 2012, 10:19 AM
May 2012

I've been trying to make this argument that its the color of his skin all along although I hadn't been tying all the rest that you have here in with my thoughts. The old white mans presidential club does not want to admit that someone other than one of them can run this country. Thats why they hated on Hillary so bad when it looked like she might be the nominee back in '08.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
9. Obama slipped through the cracks of oppression and ran with it
Sun May 20, 2012, 10:28 AM
May 2012

Against all the odds and despite their efforts, Obama became what he had the capacity to be. The people in power, a portion of the 1%, have a vested interest in holding non-complicit people back.

Obama represents a weakness in their system, they aren't as powerful as they want to believe. He gives us real hope.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
17. I love watching their faces when you call them on it
Sun May 20, 2012, 11:26 AM
May 2012

They look like the cat who ate the canary.



Don

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. They despised Bill Clinton to the point of impeaching him.
Sun May 20, 2012, 11:37 AM
May 2012

And they *still* despise and ridicule Jimmy Carter.

Do you think the Republicans would have gone easier on a white Dem who had implemented the same policies as Obama?

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
30. I have to agree with you. The political landscape is so divided right now that any Democrat
Sun May 20, 2012, 02:30 PM
May 2012

would have been a target for their hatred regardless of race. To be sure, there are some who hate the fact that a black man is in the White House, but most of them just hate the fact that a Democrat is in the White House.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
37. I agree, too. But, the race thing...
Mon May 21, 2012, 09:42 AM
May 2012

...is driving them over the edge. I know it just galls them that, despite everything they did to take down Bill Clinton, and, everything Bill did to help them, most people still like him. It's the same with President Obama. They're doing everything they can to discredit him, and when they can't find anything resembling a whiff of a real scandal, they pull out all the stops trying to portray him as "not one of us". It's often subtle, but it has always been there. And, the President's race is a big part of that. Hell, all one has to do is look at what the Ricketts Klan was trying to do recently. Or, Rancid Priebus claiming that the Obama campaign put the Rev. Wright ad out there. They all may not hate him simply for his race, but they sure as hell are trying to exploit it for their own benefit.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
51. If they ever read " The Six Black Presidents ~ Black Blood, White Masks"
Mon May 21, 2012, 01:31 PM
May 2012

they will really go crazy!

They won't want to believe it -- I had a hard time at first with the book and I am African American.

I just happened to get a used copy about 6 years ago.

Now we have a President that is proud to have "White Blood and Black Blood too."

He doesn't have to hide his heritage.






TinkerTot55

(198 posts)
22. I Noticed A Glaring Omission In Your Description Of Michelle Obama......
Sun May 20, 2012, 11:59 AM
May 2012

....you forgot "BEAUTIFUL, GRACIOUS, and C L A S S Y."

patrice

(47,992 posts)
23. Weak self-concepts are threatened by practically anything. Groupthink assuages vulnerabilities.
Sun May 20, 2012, 12:03 PM
May 2012

One of the oldest roots of groupthink is "race" or ethnicity.

There isn't much biological ground for "race", most of it is cultural; people either don't know or don't care about this fact, preferring instead to think and act as though racism is somekind of eternal and absolute truth, when it is actually more like a defense mechanism that grows out of their own insecurities and perceived inabilities to function in more open systems.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
24. What really baffles me
Sun May 20, 2012, 12:15 PM
May 2012

are the "progressive" websites (think "old tree&quot who hate him. I mean really, really hate him, to the point they either aren't voting for him or not voting at all. What's up with that? I just don't get it.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
25. They only like....
Sun May 20, 2012, 12:42 PM
May 2012

(1) Old white men that have amassed millions or billions at the expense of the middle class
(2) Hateful religious types that bash women, gays, latinos, immigrants, the poor, the sick, the infirm

Love - those that think just like them...ahhhhhh...to be among brethren that are as stupid, uneducated, uncaring and down-right mean as me!!!

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
26. Of course and don't forget the blatant racism.
Sun May 20, 2012, 12:43 PM
May 2012

None of those racist RWingers want to admit that an African American can be smarter, better looking and cooler than them. I can't believe the racism that has emerged from that cabal right up front and naked to the eye.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
31. He breaks their memes.
Sun May 20, 2012, 02:39 PM
May 2012

He jeopardizes their thinking.

One of the favorite right-wing (and others) tactics:
If a black man lives in poverty and leads a life of crime, it is because he is lazy and violent.

If a black man is well-educated and successful, it's only because he had it easy because of Affirmative Action.

I hear this ALL the time on various forums.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
55. He destroys the stereotypes needed to propagate the GOP Southern Strategy.
Mon May 21, 2012, 03:25 PM
May 2012

That's why they hate him.

The GOP needs those sterotypes to keep the racist right wing sheep in-line.

If those stereotypes break down, the children of those racist right wing sheep will overcome their parents racism.

This terrifies the GOP.

 

progress2k12nbynd

(221 posts)
33. Yes likely but this won't work in the Presidential debates.
Sun May 20, 2012, 09:13 PM
May 2012

We'll have to have more of a response to Mitten's attacks than "You just hate him cause he's black."

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
35. they also hate the fact that you think this way
Mon May 21, 2012, 07:43 AM
May 2012

. . . and some even hate the fact that you'd take the time to express this here, I believe.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
36. blows MY mind that the only reason to dislike him is race
Mon May 21, 2012, 08:26 AM
May 2012

Last edited Mon May 21, 2012, 11:15 AM - Edit history (1)

you really think that all the opponent sees is race? you cannot think of ANY other reason to hate him? did all the african american folks who did NOT vote for McCain do it because HE is white?

sP

OnEdit : I misinterpreted Logical's post and said something mean...sorry about that.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
40. ah, ok, sorry...i would be more inclined to believe that
Mon May 21, 2012, 11:13 AM
May 2012

but i know that a lot of them hated Clinton...and he was a good ole boy from Arkansas...

sP

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
42. Well, that is true. I know maybe I am stretching but this absolute dislike of Obama is....
Mon May 21, 2012, 11:23 AM
May 2012

confusing to me. It seems way beyond political at times.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
44. i think everything has become so charged up
Mon May 21, 2012, 11:27 AM
May 2012

that everything seems like hate. some of it honestly is. some of it is not. some people don't know how to just disagree with someone on a political issue without making an ass of themselves (i tend toward that last one).

MAYBE one day we can get past skin...and appearance in general and see people for WHO they are...

hope my comment wasn't too harsh...apologies...again.

sP

Yavin4

(35,423 posts)
41. There Are A Lot of White People, Including Some Liberals, That Are Very Uncomfortable with....
Mon May 21, 2012, 11:15 AM
May 2012

articulate, bright, accomplished African Americans. Sure, they may like rappers or other African American stereotypes, but someone smarter than then themselves and they feel threatened.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
43. I think most republicans hate him because they are told to hate him
Mon May 21, 2012, 11:25 AM
May 2012

They don't even really know why, except that the RW media tells them he is BAD. I think the same goes for alot of issues. They know what they are for or against, but they can't give you a logical, factual reason why.

IMHO they are easily led and seem to be incapable of free, logical thought.

Politics has become a sporting event. They obsessively cheer for their team and demonize the other teams as the "enemies". (Think Yankees/RedSox fans; they despise each other but they don't really know why)

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
45. this :
Mon May 21, 2012, 11:33 AM
May 2012

"Politics has become a sporting event. They obsessively cheer for their team and demonize the other teams as the "enemies". (Think Yankees/RedSox fans; they despise each other but they don't really know why)"

very aptly put...

sP

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
48. Some of us have realized this from the jump.
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:57 PM
May 2012

Just saying.

But whatever gets people to that realization, ok.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
50. They hate him because he has all the abilities they
Mon May 21, 2012, 01:16 PM
May 2012

secretly dream of having in a GOP politician. And since that will never happen, they hate him for being as dam good as he is!

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