"Black lives matters" specific demands?

[Old Union Guy]

Sorry if this is a naive question, but I'm perfectly willing to be straightened out.

"Black lives matters" a movement not just a slogan, right? And demonstrations tying up traffic, etc.

With the labor movement it's conceptually easy. Strikes have very specific demands and targets being pressured.

"Everybody do something" about police brutality is not a specific demand or target.

Please tell me what I am missing.

[Starry Messenger]

1. They also have a website.

http://blacklivesmatter.com/demands/

I can't paste text on my phone very easily, but there's a list there with specifics.

The recent protests have also demanded that candidates put out stated plans for racial justice.

Bernie and Martin both did so in response to the protests.

[ruffburr]

2. Seems Basic-

Stop systemic racism and systemic murders of POC, And I totally Agree, This has to end now, Equal justice Equal opportunities for all, More law enforcement accountability. That's my take on the matter, So AA Do I have this right?

[Fred Sanders]

7. Did you click on the link provided so you can see the "demands" for yourself? Easy to do!

[bigdarryl]

3. Demands? they should be trying to signup people to vote

[RiverLover]

5. To vote for who? The people they are protesting? /nt

[Fred Sanders]

8. To vote for the politicians and people who get it, maybe? Without being taken for granted, I think.

Being held accountable is uncomfortable for those being held accountable, no doubt.

And there are no "demands" anymore, after 400 years....there has to be a better word for systemic justice interrupted.

[Logical]

12. I bet Bernie gets it but they still shut him down! Brillant! Nt

[jwirr]

15. While I hear what you are saying. Police and prosecutors are elected on

the local level. The only way that will change is voting. I personally think that they also need to find black people who can and will run for election.

There are a lot of things that can be done in other ways. But as long as the present governing structure is hiring and controlling the justice system things are not going to change.

So yes they need to vote. The people who stood in long lines for hours to elect President Obama understood that.

[KG]

9. vote for who? democrats?

let me know when the dem party politicos does something substantive to address the plague of police violence against POC.

[sibelian]

4. Petrifying.

Absolutely petrifying.


"release the names of all officers involved in killing black people within the last five years, both while on patrol and in custody, so they can be brought to justice"

No.

This organisation will never receive any support from me with ideas like that and that's just the end.

This can't be done.

http://blacklivesmatter.com/demands/

I will respond to not a single contradictory response to this post, it would be perfectly obvious to an insensate nitwit what's wrong with that idea.

[Igel]

16. Yeah.

#1 they can't do, as well. Arrest at public demand? And try him--presumably with the outcome decided. Kangaroo court. Can I coin the term "hangaroo court"?

#2 they can do themselves. When they organize and have structure then they can talk. But that's about it, otherwise 13% of the population's driving majority policy. It's still a democracy, like it or not. (Now we insist on the majority's will being done; now we insist on obeying a minority of the population. Again, the principle's clear but isomorphic with "just do what we want, we're right.&quot

#3 is one of those things that's a tough call. I've seen times when the police used the equipment well, to save lives. And times when it's just been scary.

#4 yu handle. If I remember the count correctly.

#5 is a tough call, as well. There's this idea that fewer police = less crime. It may certainly mean "more arrests," but the question was in Baltimore if inactive, fewer police led to more murders and crime. Is that a desirable outcome?

[KG]

6. I lulz'ed

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. Oy vey

[Chathamization]

11. Individuals groups within the movement have specific demands and issues they're working on

One of the big things that people don't seem to realize is that the group that calls itself Black Lives Matter is a small (and seemingly relatively inactive) part of the Black Lives Matter movement (think of the way many gay rights advocates used the equality sign without intending to specifically endorse the Human Rights Campaign). The movement consists of numerous organizations, each with their own goals and their own strategies for achieving said goals (just like particular unions have particular demands).

For instance, of some of the groups here has been focused on ending "jump-out squads" (stop-and-frisk type stuff). They are also working on the issue of body cameras (right now the big battle is how much footage, if any, the government can hide). They're working on specific issues, have specific demands, and have been making progress in getting our elected officials to address them. You're not going to hear as much about this stuff, however, since it's not attractive to the media, and it's not attractive to the prolific commentators online who are more interested in flame-wars.

[Old Union Guy]

13. Thanks to all who answered. n/t

[MineralMan]

14. Sure. "Police! Stop killing unarmed black people!"

I believe that is the basic demand being made.

A plan is different from a demand. A demand simply states what someone insists should happen. Demanding that the Police stop killing unarmed black people is a really, really simple demand to understand. I can't see how it needs further clarification.