Why does Daily Kos allow less Hillary-hate diaries than DU?

[ericson00]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Hassin Bin Sober (a host of the General Discussion forum).

Back in 2008, and even thru the years, the Clintons weren't the most popular people on Daily Kos. "Neocon," "corporatists," and "scandals" and "myths" (like the Perot-myth) were commonplace around there, and still sometimes are, EXCEPT that looking at the diaries about them there, I see, thankfully, nothing about the email "scandal," "Hillary took from private prisons," or Clinton Foundation complaints.

I use DU because in 2008 up to the start of primary season, DU was more fair to Clintonites, and moderate viewpoints on other issues. I also stay away from DKos because sometimes the diaries on other issues are rather extreme. But why is Kos taking the lead on disallowing and not enabling the GOP for 2016? Why is DU allowing email-"scandal" diaries, and then people even bringing up Whitewater, File/Travel "gates" (for purposes other than pointing out the BS behind them being "scandals?&quot

Why is this site enabling the GOP by allowing diaries on the email non-scandal, or the private prisons crap? The jury system seems to be mob rule with regard to this. You literally need to post Monica videos to get unhelpful comments hidden. If we wanna prevent the GOP from winning, we cannot let them point to a Democratic (not socialist or green) blog and say "liberals 'admit' it too." We cannot allow other progressives who are looking for a blog to expose themselves to things likely to keep them home in November 2016.

Everytime someone reports hateful comments, the jury comments are always "its primary season, get over it." That is mob rule, the kind of thing that could elect Donald Trump or John E. Bush as president.

Its ok to support Sanders, O'Malley, Biden, whoever, just as opposing them is also OK. But it is not OK to use cooked-up "scandals" like the email bit, Whitewater, private prisons, or CF attacks. Ever!

Yes, I know I've been here for whatever time I have, but I honour and revere Democratic heroes like the Clintons. We are Democratic, not "socialist" Underground, so no matter your tenure, if you smear Democratic Heroes, you're hurting the cause.

[onehandle]

1. Mob Rule Underground is what this place has come to.

Not to mention the zombies, sockpuppets, and flat out trolls.

I've said repeatedly what we did in this situation in Bartcop's forum, but it falls upon deaf ears over here.

[catnhatnh]

2. Democratic heroes like the Clintons????

There's your problem right there. And that you can name at least four major groups of scandal types you would like to see banned from discussion ON A DISCUSSION BOARD. And Oh-accusing DU of "enabling" the GOP will NOT win you any points with the admins.

[leftofcool]

5. Yes, similar to Bernie supporters touting the words of Anne Coulter

[SidDithers]

3. Because it's not Democratic Underground anymore...

It's become Bernie Underground.

Sid

[treestar]

4. +1

your sig line!

[leftofcool]

7. It certainly has.

[GusBob]

8. Sorta this^^^^

But actually the process started last summer, when the POS used car salesman stuff was allowed to stand

Now if Mrs Clinton gets elected the precedent has been established....those who are opposed to her now shall be allowed to snipe away at every lil' thing

[cwydro]

10. Lol, there're still some of us here who like Hillary.

I'm an old time supporter of hers and may change, but she's still in my top spot.

I don't get annoyed by all the silly squabbling.

[onehandle]

11. Yep.

[SidDithers]

12. I wonder if it's too early to start a pool on when Bernie will drop out...nt

Sid

[sufrommich]

15. For the time being anyway. nt

[Kurska]

6. Jury system means community moderation.

We decide the rules on stuff like this.

If you don't like them, contribute to the jury system.

[Go Vols]

9. Private Prison Corporations Stand With Hillary Clinton

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/24/1405229/-Private-Prison-Corporations-Stand-With-Hillary-Clinton#

[Stellar]

13. LATINO GROUP DEMANDS HILLARY CLINTON AND DNC CUT TIES WITH PRIVATE PRISON INDUSTRY

http://presente.org/press/releases/2015/8/17/latino-group-demands-hillary-cut-ties-private-pris

[Octafish]

14. UBS stands with Bill Clinton

And Phil Gramm:

Since the repeal of Glass-Steagal, both there specialize in Wealth Management:

http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html

Not that it has anything to do with the rich getting richer and the middle class paying for it.

[Doctor_J]

16. I read on du yesterday that kos is a right wing site

Unrec

[Romulox]

17. Member since: Mon Jul 20, 2015. Calls for a purge: Wed Aug 19, 2015. nt

[tkmorris]

18. And who decides what is a "cooked up scandal"?

I guess we are gonna need a Grand Poobah of What Is An Allowable Clinton Discussion Topic. You want the job?

And BTW what the FUCK is this "heroes" nonsense? The Clintons are not heroes, and neither is anyone else running for President. Politicians are not heroic figures, nor should they be. The second you start seeing someone in such terms you lose the ability to objectively evaluate their job performance.

[ericson00]

20. a cooked up scandal is one which sees much hay made of it but wrongdoing is not proven

easy, like Fast/Furious, New Black Panthers, ACORN, Whitewater, File/Travel"gates," etc. Some of the investigations on these wasted taxpayer money too.

[JackInGreen]

19. Because Markos is a shill?

He's said effectively as much.

[Glitterati]

21. Could it be? Maybe?

that some of us are just tired, bone tired, of Clinton scandals?

that some of us just don't want our government, not only like it is today, but consumed with putting a Clinton, any Clinton, in jail by the republicans?

that some of us NEED GOVERNMENT TO WORK.

I don't CARE whether these are "cooked up" scandals or not.

I can't take another 8 years of a Clinton Presidency.