Finally...MSM says the right thing about Trump and GOP wanting a police state! Washington Post Editorial.

[Fred Sanders]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mr-trumps-politics-of-incitement/2015/08/21/c33d0f2e-483d-11e5-8ab4-c73967a143d3_story.html?hpid=z6

Mr. Trump’s immigrant-bashing rhetoric breeds violence


By Editorial Board August 21 at 9:04 PM

"DONALD TRUMP’S rapidly expanding catalogue of bombast is already a weighty tome, and it’s a fool’s errand to take each of his utterances seriously. Still, his loathsome comment on Wednesday, in which he excused violence against a Hispanic man in Boston as “passionate” acts of “people who are following me,” taps into a dark vein in American history and merits special attention.

In the Boston incident, two brothers were charged with using a metal pole to assault a 58-year-old Hispanic man. The man, who was homeless, was left with a broken nose and other injuries to his face, arms and chest. “Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported,” one of the brothers, Scott Leader, told police, the Boston Globe reported.

When Mr. Trump was told of the incident, in which the brothers also are alleged to have urinated on the man before beating him, he said the following: “It would be a shame. . . . I will say that people who are following me are very passionate. They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate.”

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Top Comment


"It's been 24 hours since Trump made his comments defending his passionate supporters who attacked the homeless Hispanic man in Boston after urinating on him.

Perhaps I missed something, but I don't recall the other 16 declared GOP candidates for the presidency stepping forward to condemn Trump's remarks.

The GOP is a morally bankrupt political party. Trump is the perfect incarnation of what the party stands for. As the saying goes, the chickens have come home to roost, and it won't be pretty for the GOP in next year's presidential election."

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[spanone]

1. K&R...

[Fred Sanders]

3. And so here we are with Trump:

"Long left out of a national conversation that focuses on dull things like budgets, legislation and foreign policy, now, at last, the birthers, truthers and trolls have a voice, too."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-and-the-hate-tweeters/2015/08/21/3c863846-4817-11e5-8e7d-9c033e6745d8_story.html?tid=pm_opinions_pop_b&hpid=z3

[malaise]

2. Psssssssssssssst

They all wish they could agree with the Ugliest American publicly

[Fred Sanders]

4. Everybody anywhere near Trump - for instance CNN that sleeps with him - needs to ask Trump

about the Washington Post editorial.

That would be fun.

And what the fuck is wrong with Don Lemon??

[meow2u3]

5. K & R for the truth--for a change

[Fairgo]

6. the U.S. Political circus

People in Australia used to commiserate with me, given the parallels (liberal vs labour : republican vs democratic). Now, they cringe.

[Wellstone ruled]

7. Media just sticking to their game plan.

Agitate the Populace to the point of submission and you see a lame brain Republican steal the Election. It's all about the money,to hell with the issues. This what the Media is having a tough time dealing with Bernie. The Guy speaks truth to power and it scares the hell out of their 1%er masters.

[jtuck004]

8. Huh. He may be so out of touch he does not know they don't allow voting from jail.

" I will say that people who are following me...". Whew. Hey, Evilhair, get a grip.

He already thinks the Constitution is un-constitutional, so it wouldn't surprise me.

[Shrike47]

9. I couldn't find the part about the GOP wanting a police state. What did I miss?

[Fred Sanders]

10. The last two weeks of the planet going around the Sun?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

35. Coffee...monitor... you know the rest. nt

[freshwest]

13. Huckabee wants to call the national guard to arrest women who had abortions for murder.

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Trump wants all illegals (and that will translate to anyone who looks illegal) to be rounded up door to door and shipped off.

Cruz, Rand, Bush, and the rest of the Klown Kar want all government to be replaced with something less accountable like corporations and churches.

This is the exact way that Mussolini described fascism, a combination of corporate power and religion. By the time you get there, no redress is possible and the police will be used to enforce the laws of those groups.

Both GOP candidates and elected have called for the power of the state to force an Old Testament code on the entire population. Such statements as one has to be a Christian to an American citizen; stoning for gays; death penalty for women who have had legal abortions and the list goes on.

But in Trumph's case, he'd start with Mexicans and that will require a police state to root out the five million or more in the USA without documentation.

Why do you think people are being encouraged to be armed to the teeth and have kill lists made up? Do you understand what this will mean for the unpopular, which will eventually include anyone that does not enthusiastically support what the GOP wants?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

18. Wow, when you put it that way, I'm fucking voting Democrat this election!

[freshwest]

21. The Republicans are taking the gloves off. Soon they will offer the fist in our faces. IMO,

this will be our last time to vote if the GOP gets in. They haven't been subtle about their views on who deserves to vote and have a say over our lives and our national course. Yes, please, vote!

Prescription for the 2016 election: read, and re-read this column, as needed, whenever you might feel disappointment about individual candidates, and especially when you find yourself falling into the meme-trap of "both parties are the same". Re-read, rinse and repeat... but the differences between the parties are so clear and dramatic that it’s hard to see how anyone who has been paying attention could be undecided even now, or be induced to change his or her mind between now and the election...

~ Paul Krugman

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/13/opinion/it-takes-a-party.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

to MBS:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016119970

[MBS]

23. chilling but (unfortunately) correct assessment.

This election REALLY matters

[freshwest]

24. Thanks, MBS! n/t

[jomin41]

11. He doesn't seem like either a war-monger or

a religious freak. Tell me if I'm wrong. (Bernie fan here)

[Fred Sanders]

12. Did you also miss the last 2 weeks' of the planet orbiting the Sun?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

20. He is not a religious freak, it's all for show

He seems like a warmonger, but that may be mostly show too. He is the biggest asshole on the planet, so I hope he gets the nomination, because that makes Bernie's job so much easier.

[hifiguy]

22. Head-to-head, Bernie would take tRump apart

like a cheap suit. Bambi v. Godzilla.

[Fred Sanders]

28. Thread has nothing to do with Clinton, but since you ask....Keep dreaming.

Just give in to the smearing....because folks are getting tired of hearing about all the lies against her....yes, that is logical! Cave to the lies!

On the contrary, mon ami!

Clinton will grow stronger, not weaker, folks seem to have complete amnesia about who and what this amazing women is and WHY she is the prohibitive favorite - experience, intelligence, and the same unnerving calm of Obama whom she emulates and who national voters, not once, but twice twice elected the Democratic Parth man and will twice elect the Democratic Party woman.

A black President followed by a female President adding up to an unprecedented 16 years controlling the White House. It will be transformational.....the revolutionaries are, as always, dreamers.

A strong white woman makes some folks as nervous as a strong black man, which is a whole other issue for some folks.

I am not one of those folks!

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

31. I agree.

[gratuitous]

14. I sincerely hope

I sincerely hope that nobody on the Post editorial board is mystified about where all this violence is coming from. Or why our national political issues aren't concerned with income inequality, prison reform, the growing police state or the wanton use of violence - by individual and government alike - to solve our problems.

Because that would be just too fucking precious coming from the Post.

[Fred Sanders]

16. You got that right about the Washington Post perhaps also taking a sane stand on other issues:

A comment on the site:


"Oh please Fred Hiatt and the Board, save us those hypocritical gigantic crocodile tears for the victim. You publish Jennifer Rubin, the biggest right wing hate monger employed by any major newspaper in the country.

You're part of the problem, not the solution."

[n2doc]

33. Great comment n/t

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

17. By Editorial Board August 21 at 9:04 PM

This Ed Board character is an ass!!!

[underthematrix]

19. My white husband and I watched History Channel's

NAZI AMERICA

and you will notice Hitler and Trump's rhetoric is very very similar. There are several parts which you can link through the link I posted.

You may also want to watch the History Channel's KKK in America and PBS American Experience's Histoty of New York.

[awoke_in_2003]

25. I have always wondered

what was going on in that picture of Mussolini. He looks absolutely nuts.

[HassleCat]

26. Great again

This is such a popular theme among Republicans. They are afraid to condemn xenophobic activities, even when they turn criminal, because they're afraid they will offend some of the "patriotic citizens" who believe we can make our country great again by chasing away or even killing people who are not Real Americans. Simmering hatred is a strong political force, and it propels much activity in the Republican base. To repudiate it is risky for the GOP candidates. They're better off just staying silent or perhaps making some wishy-washy condemnation of the violence.

[Uncle Joe]

27. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Fred Sanders.

[The River]

29. The PTB Want Trump Gone

They know he is a disaster that wasn't a part of their plan.
They thought he'd drop out by now. Now they will push him out.
The corporate media has their marching orders.
He will be gone soon enough...

[Fred Sanders]

30. I concur. And when it is all over the GOP will rely, as always, on the reliable mass media to

impose mass amnesia about the GOP fascist summer of '15.

[DonViejo]

32. South Boston...again!...

A Flag, a Busing Fight, and a Famous Photograph

On April 5, 1976, the year of the American bicentennial, Stanley Forman, a photographer with the now defunct Boston Herald American, took 1/250th of a second out of his day to take a picture that remains a defining illustration of race in America. At the time, Boston was in turmoil over court-ordered busing, a scheme that forcibly bused students to schools often far from their homes in an effort to diversify schools. Opposition was strong and sparked a protest at City Hall where white demonstrators ended up severely beating a prominent black attorney, Ted Landsmark. Louis Masur teaches a course on visual culture at Trinity College and has written a biography of the photo, The Soiling of Old Glory: The Photograph That Shocked America. He spoke to U.S. News this week. Excerpts:

Why is The Soiling of Old Glory so iconic?


It's an image that's always fascinated me and obsessed me. It's one of those pictures that instantaneously became iconic; even more so because it was taken in Boston in the year of the bicentennial. The idea of a student protester using an American flag as a weapon against an unarmed black man, in that city, in that year, was just something absolutely terrifying and horrifying. People immediately understood it, and it became a symbol of all the worst kinds of racial hatred imaginable and proof that the civil rights movement of the 1960s hadn't achieved all its goals. Why was the location so important?

http://www.usnews.com/news/national/articles/2008/04/04/a-flag-a-busing-fight-and-a-famous-photograph

[smirkymonkey]

36. Not much has changed in Southie.

*sigh*

[randr]

34. Apparently to the Donald

Pissing on poor people is passionate.