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‘He wasn’t f*cking armed!' (Original Post) L0oniX Aug 2015 OP
W...T...F? Enough is enough. These assholes need to be tested for steroids, and prosecuted by GoneFishin Aug 2015 #1
From the video: 1monster Aug 2015 #2
Why do they always shoot to kill????????!!!! tblue Aug 2015 #3
That is how they are trained. NutmegYankee Aug 2015 #5
Yes and while RWers scream about "Sanctuary Cities" tblue Aug 2015 #6
They have to. eggplant Aug 2015 #8
I suspect that it is part of cop lore that dead bodies are less likely to sue. Dead bodies are GoneFishin Aug 2015 #16
Again?!?!?!? Geez, how many does that make just in the last 3 months? 4lbs Aug 2015 #4
Here you go mountain grammy Aug 2015 #7
that is an amazing database NJCher Aug 2015 #9
Yes, it is, and it took a British paper to do it. mountain grammy Aug 2015 #17
It appears between 15 and 18 unarmed black people were killed by police in the last 3 months. 4lbs Aug 2015 #10
Proving, IMO, that these are certainly NOT "isolated incidents." mountain grammy Aug 2015 #18
When will people start doing to them what they do to us? Feeling the Bern Aug 2015 #11
It doesn't matter if someone was armed or not. lpbk2713 Aug 2015 #12
Yup Takket Aug 2015 #13
slick deal for a murderer NJCher Aug 2015 #19
One thing needs to happen. Individual cops and police unions need to be the ones sued . . . brush Aug 2015 #14
Nazi filth.... Enthusiast Aug 2015 #15
This isn't going to stop until the Federal Govt steps in to protect its own citizens from Police sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #20

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
1. W...T...F? Enough is enough. These assholes need to be tested for steroids, and prosecuted by
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 09:27 PM
Aug 2015

outside prosecution teams.

1monster

(11,045 posts)
2. From the video:
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 10:31 PM
Aug 2015
In the video, a discussion can be heard with one man commenting Hall had been maced by the cop, saying, “He maced him. They should have been away from the car, telling him to get out,” before adding, “This is gonna be big time here — worse than other ones.”

“Is he colored?” the man asks only to be told, “No, he’s white, I think,” before replying, “That don’t even matter, that don’t even matter.”

A third man then adds, “Cause it don’t matter, he was a human.”


All this for missing drug counselling and having having a warrant out for possession of drug paraphernalia.

NutmegYankee

(16,477 posts)
5. That is how they are trained.
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 10:35 PM
Aug 2015

Fucked up isn't it?

Protect and serve, Yeah right! More like terrorize and enslave.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
6. Yes and while RWers scream about "Sanctuary Cities"
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 10:49 PM
Aug 2015

because one person died (and YES that was horrible and the circumstances should be addressed), they are completely numb to the endless list of people getting killed every day by the people who are sworn 'to protect and to serve.'

It's a race issue absolutely, but I think it's a class thing too. If police know you live in a certain part of town and they believe no one 'important' cares about you, then you are a disposable non-entity, if not a menace to be removed. You are not human—you are vermin.

I know black people get stopped and harassed all the time but if you are poor and black you are literally nothing in the eyes of the police. And now we see it can happen to white folks too. I will be very interested to follow this case and see who this victim is and what happens to the police who murdered him.

It's gotta stop! Not one more!!!

eggplant

(4,186 posts)
8. They have to.
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 11:22 PM
Aug 2015

There would be zero justification to fire a weapon for any other purpose.

Sucks that it has become the go-to response. Civility is contagious, if only they'd give it a chance.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
16. I suspect that it is part of cop lore that dead bodies are less likely to sue. Dead bodies are
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:18 AM
Aug 2015

certainly less likely to testify on their own behalf and contradict whatever story a cop pulls out of his ass.

Similar to the way they always say they feared for their life, it's go-to cover-your-ass trick.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
4. Again?!?!?!? Geez, how many does that make just in the last 3 months?
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 10:34 PM
Aug 2015

I am thinking of a particular song by Ice Cube from Straight Outta Compton.


Most will know of which song I'm thinking. The first 8 lines of it keep applying, over and over.

NJCher

(43,102 posts)
9. that is an amazing database
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 11:44 PM
Aug 2015

It is graphically designed so that it puts a face on each shooting. Furthermore, right at the top is a chart showing how each state ranks. My state, for example, is 31 out of 51 (per capita). One can apply filters. I applied the filter to see the number of women shot by police, and it was 30 out of the total of 724.

When you look at the pictures of these women, you wonder what on earth could cause a cop to kill them? Click the picture, and it brings up news stories. According to this, there sure are a lot of women out there shooting guns at police.

Sandra Bland is not on there, and I suppose that is because she "hanged herself" in her cell rather than get shot.

Thanks, mountain grammy. I bookmarked it.



Cher

mountain grammy

(29,006 posts)
17. Yes, it is, and it took a British paper to do it.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 09:59 AM
Aug 2015

Few "deaths in custody" are tracked on this site. There are actually thousands of "deaths in custody." Need a whole new website for that one. As if police killing citizens out in the open isn't bad enough, "deaths in custody" are even more chilling. People go in and don't come out; vigilante justice in a police state.

http://journalistsresource.org/studies/government/criminal-justice/deaths-police-custody-united-states

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
10. It appears between 15 and 18 unarmed black people were killed by police in the last 3 months.
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 11:47 PM
Aug 2015

That's about 1 or 2 per week.



 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
11. When will people start doing to them what they do to us?
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 11:49 PM
Aug 2015

Don't worry. They will investigate themselves and find they did nothing wrong.

lpbk2713

(43,271 posts)
12. It doesn't matter if someone was armed or not.
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 11:55 PM
Aug 2015



The cops just say the magic phrase "I felt my life was in danger" and they
get a paid admin vacation and then it's like nothing ever happened.

Takket

(23,702 posts)
13. Yup
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:06 AM
Aug 2015

And then the case goes to a grand jury where the DA functions as defense counsel and discredits any scrap of evidence so the grand jury does not indict and there is never a day in court.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
14. One thing needs to happen. Individual cops and police unions need to be the ones sued . . .
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:23 AM
Aug 2015

and the ones that cough up the hundreds of thousands and/or millions of dollars to their murdered victims relatives.

These shooting will stop immediately then.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
20. This isn't going to stop until the Federal Govt steps in to protect its own citizens from Police
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:17 PM
Aug 2015

killings and the fact that they get away with it. I hear a lot of rhetoric, but see NO effort to DO something about it. And if the Federal Govt refuses to protect its citizens, then maybe it's time to appeal to the International Community.

Shameful, no other nation would tolerate this, men, women AND children, hundreds murdered by cop since Jan. of THIS YEAR ALONE.

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