War On Planned Parenthood Just Part Of War On Democracy And Push For Fundamentalist Rule.

[TheMastersNemesis]

The coordinated effort against Planned Parenthood is just part of the war on democracy and the US Constitution itself. Years ago Bill Moyers was told by an influential Texas fundamentalist preacher that they intended to take over the US which is really a Christian nation. That the US must be governed by Biblical principles. Planned Parenthood is just a proxy fight over the over all intention of Christian reconstruction.

The apathetic public and lack of real pushback allows these fundamentalist extremists to get elected to political office. Even now pastors of these RW churches are being encouraged to run for office under the GOP banner. And with the help of tax free status and dark money too many will succeed. And this assault is at every level of government and 2016 is the target election.

So you can count on extreme turmoil and action against Planned Parenthood in the near future. The radical Christian fundamentalist movement is just as dangerous as anything else we have faced.

[CanonRay]

1. Ted Cruz is the point man for the Christian Reconstruction movement n/t

[TheMastersNemesis]

2. We Ignore Christian Reconstruction Movement At Our Own Peril.

There is no push back against radical Christians because you cannot attack or criticize religion. Somehow religious freedom no matter how radical is immune from reaL pushback. If you look at all the anti reproductive right laws and all the "conscience" excuses that are passed or are occurring, the religious right is making progress in infiltrating government policy and action.

Until there is aggressive counter attack and push back they will only get more bold. Huckabee's threat of military force over abortion should be taken seriously.

[jonno99]

4. Diagree. Huckabee is a clown. Every cycle he is shown to have less and less influence...nt

[longship]

16. You presume that Hucklebuck is the only one?

I think that would be a naive point of view.

The GOP is full of these idiots, including amongst the 17 candidates. The GOP is, on the whole, a theocratic party. Remember "W was chosen by Jesus?"

[jonno99]

20. No - he is simply the most vocal (as far as I've heard anyway). Hell, the GOP couldn't even band

together to repeal the "great evil" that was the ACA - which they were ALL supposedly against!

What makes you think they have the spine to tackle something even more divisive - like choice or LGBT rights?

No - they might band together on "getting rid of illegals" - to their peril, but most likely they will just play it safe and diddle with tax policy and the Iran treaty.

Before they follow reagan and ride off into the sunset...

[longship]

23. Well, maybe you ought to scan Carson's previous speeches.

Or any of them, especially when speaking to religious right organizations.

They are all nucking futs. All of them.

[jonno99]

27. Who is disputing that? Like I've said elsewhare the GOP knows that they are going to lose on

"social" issues - the outliers not withstanding.

If Carson had strong support, I would believe otherwise...

[lewebley3]

15. True: the figt never ends: We need to keep marching for civil rights: Ted Cruz will take them alway

[hifiguy]

21. The Reconstructionists are bloody well terrifylng.

No exaggeration to call them the American Taliban/Wahhabis. Some go as far as ISIS in their enthusiasm for death-by-stoning. Not sure about beheadings, but I wouldn't doubt if there are a few calling for that.

Years ago I discovered this site: http://yuricareport.com/ It hasn't been updated in a long while, but it is a goldmine of deep-background on the dominionists, reconstructionists and other batshit fundy totalitarians in our midst.

[jonno99]

3. Disagree. If the OP were true then SSM equality would not have happened this year and the

fundamentalists would have won. Instead we are seeing more and more tolerance on issues regarding choice and LGBT rights.

No - Planned Parenthood is getting bad press for the simple reason that they were caught on video appearing callous when discussing the disposition and sale of aborted fetuses.

[BlueIdaho]

8. As per Federal Law

Fetuses may not be sold but processing and shipping fees are allowed. Bottom line - No One may profit from the acquisition or delivery of fetus material to regulated laboratories. Planned Parenthood did not sell anything to anyone - they were discussing the usual and ordinary costs of fetal tissue delivery.

This highly edited series of tapes is propaganda meant to continue the attack on Planned Parienthood and the war on women. The PP representatives were simply mirroring the attitudes of those they were speaking with. A normal human trait in any interaction.

BTW - ChristoFacism is a real and dangerous extremist movement.

[jonno99]

10. "ChristoFacism"? As a movement - is it trending up - or down? I would argue that they have

less influence year over year.

"The PP representatives were simply mirroring the attitudes of those they were speaking with. A normal human trait in any interaction."

Normal? Perhaps. Their problem is that they got "caught". IMO - they should have been better prepared, better trained so as to not appear as callus as they did. I imagine that sufficient training has now been implemented that these sort of videos will not be an issue in the future.

For now they need to ride it out. However, blaming some RW group for "catching" them won't wash with the majority of folks.

My two cents...

[Fred Sanders]

18. Your fact-free opinion supporting the vicious propaganda smear of PP by GOP political operatives is 100% wrong.

But "dead baby parts" is a powerful propganda phrase for folks like Operation Rescue. The power of propaganda on some folks is why it is being used...to some effect.

As you prove.

[jonno99]

22. Since when is pointing out the obvious a sign of support? You're gonna hurt you knee

if you keep jerking it so fast...

[Fred Sanders]

25. Of course responding with insults only helps you dig the hole deeper!

Did you also enjoy ACORN being taken down because too many folks were also conned by that smear?

[jonno99]

29. Sigh...yep, ACORN was "caught" too. You know, it's not that hard to figure out; if you say or do

stupid, or callous stuff, don't be surprised if your political enemies beat you over the head with it.

To use a sports analogy, we've got to play "smarter ball". You may not like it or even agree - but that is the reality of the current "fast food" media environment...

[longship]

17. Sheesh!

Well, for starters, SSM was decided by SCOTUS. And in case people don't notice, the four justices against SSM did so using implicit religious arguments, the "redefining marriage" ploy.

And PP has done nothing wrong.

So much for lame arguments to the contrary.

[jonno99]

24. Show me any polling that suggests that the GOP is supported - over Dems - on "social" issues.

They are a dying breed - IMHO...

[longship]

28. Let's see.

Majority of governorships: Check!
Majority of state legislatures: Check!
Majority in US House of Representatives: Check!
Majority in the US Senate: Check!
SCOTUS at the tipping point: Check!

Seems like they are doing pretty damned well. We ignore that at our peril.

My best to you. But I believe that you are wrong.

[jonno99]

30. You may be right - I could be wrong. I use SSM as my barometer. Polling suggests that

more and more folks are way more accepting of SSM. In terms of it as a political issue, it is a non-starter - that ship has sailed. I think the same thing about immigration - Trump's hysterics notwithstanding. There is no wide-spread support for "rounding up" tens of millions of individuals & families and deporting them - it's NOT going to happen.

And as I've said, the GOP will diddle with tax policy (and Iran on the national level), but they do not have the support to make any headway on "conservative social issues" - especially with the younger generations, who are less tolerant of intolerance.

My best to you too!

[longship]

31. I somewhat agree with you on SSM.

But that is not the only social issue, by far.

As you undoubtedly understand.

[Fred Sanders]

26. To his credit he has not stopped digging! Strangely few posts, until lately, for someone joining in 2008.

Lot of that lately at DU...thinking it is all not obvious is obvious.

[NorthCarolina]

5. It's a War on the Poor. eom

[Scuba]

6. They're after women's suffrage; no doubt about it.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/05/02/barton-hates-women/

Conservative ‘Christian’ Calls For Banning Women From Voting (AUDIO)

[Lars39]

12. Their aiming even farther, imo...ability to own property

[cleanhippie]

7. Until religious beliefs are marginalized in the public policy discussion...

Nothing will ever change.

Any liberal that uses their religion as justification for a policy or action is just as guilty as the fundamentalist for doing the same thing.

[90-percent]

9. I remember Roe v. wade in 1972

A friend of a friend got "knocked up" and she had an abortion. To me, being 18 and a mother seems like a hell of a life. Struggle, poverty and the responsibility of raising a child.

And I've only recently realized the Religious Right PTB's in this country are slowly, but effectively, making it harder and more humiliating for a woman to have an abortion.

They are slowly over turning Roe v. Wade decades at a time, bit by bit, back door loophole engineering, discriminatory rules for clinics, extreme humiliation and invasion of privacy, predators that dress up as abortion providers and try to frighten girls into keeping their fetus to term. Gittin her done by whatever underhanded possibly illegal lying, propagandizing, infiltrating ends justifies the sleazy hypocritical stupid means prove to be effective. What dishonest cruel dishonorable sociopathic people! Only bullies enjoy making other people feel bad.

It's tiring to have to continue to fight these fights decade after decade, but, thats how these people operate.

And they're subverting the cornerstones of our Democracy to do it.

-90% Jimmy

[KT2000]

11. +1 !

[Volaris]

13. And what a gift for the economic oligarchs that

Very nearly 50% of the population is willing to enslave themselves...it must save the oligarchs quite a bit of propaganda money. All they have to do is parrot the religious talking points, and then sit back and watch that train grease it's own wheels.

[MisterP]

19. it's like I always said: if there wasn't any money in it we would not be politically dominated

by the people who think that Celestial Seasonings tea let the Debbil in your home

heck, even the SoBapts had to have a coup before they could be made tractable to the neocon sweep

[safeinOhio]

14. Truth be told

PP prevents way more abortions than it does. Access to birth control is what they are really after.