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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:00 PM May 2012

This is the response from the Dems in Az concerning SoS demanding Obama's Birth Certificate....

Last edited Mon May 21, 2012, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Via Raymond E Linafelter: Please join me in the Birther 2.0 movement. The following link is where you can email Secretary Bennett and demand he check the validity of candidate Mitt Romney's birth certificate. The following is my message to Secretary Bennett. Feel free to copy and paste my message. JUST PLEASE DO IT!
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As one of your constituents I am formally requesting that you verify the validity of Presidential candidate Mitt Romney's birth certificate. The understandable concern over the current President's being, or not being, a natural born citizen forces you to adhere to your constituents concerns regarding this matter. Much like our President Mr. Romney spent a considerable part of his formative years, thirty months to be exact, residing on foreign soil. This combined with his father been born born in Chihuahua Mexico bears a striking resemblance to our Presidents situation. Has anyone even seen a copy of Mitt Romney's birth certificate? Does or did Mitt Romney ever possess Mexican or French citizenship? I am sure you share these concerns considering your admirable actions to find answers regarding the President and will hold Mr. Romney to an equal standard. I look forward to your response.

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Any one in Az that is reading this - please join us & help this go viral.
The ONLY difference between President Obama and R'money's situation is the color of their skin.

http://www.azsos.gov/info/contact_us.htm

____________________

Anyone from a different state wanting to help out - here are some zip codes you can use:
85286 85248 85202 85206 85207 85208 85209 85719 85720 85257 85044
Thanks

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This is the response from the Dems in Az concerning SoS demanding Obama's Birth Certificate.... (Original Post) jillan May 2012 OP
k/r Voice for Peace May 2012 #1
Mormon polygamy loggerboots May 2012 #21
Done, kicked, recd. Please X-post in the Arizona forum OffWithTheirHeads May 2012 #2
Great idea - I went ahead and x-posted it there. jillan May 2012 #4
i sent it barbtries May 2012 #3
You are wonderful! jillan May 2012 #5
I'd prefer you remove "understandable" from the second sentence. savalez May 2012 #6
I didn't write that - in fact I used my own words when I emailed him.... but jillan May 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author savalez May 2012 #19
grammer kardonb May 2012 #23
This is a BBS. savalez May 2012 #29
bbs kardonb May 2012 #36
So, you can slam a legitimate poster over a misspelling, Dogtown May 2012 #45
So, you can slam a legitimate poster over a misspelling, AlbertCat May 2012 #50
Grammar is not the issue savalez May 2012 #26
I believe a response is in order gratuitous May 2012 #7
Very good, but they should have proof read it for punctuation. nt Deep13 May 2012 #9
That was just one person's email - the person whose idea this was. jillan May 2012 #10
Very good! treestar May 2012 #11
A serious question -- why ISN'T he checking Romney's BC? brooklynite May 2012 #12
Exactly. Both of their fathers were born outside of the US. jillan May 2012 #14
Secondly, birthers also claim that since Iliyah May 2012 #13
Neither was Washington's, or Adams, or Jefferson.... Wounded Bear May 2012 #39
How many "Mothers" are named on Romney's birth certificate? itsrobert May 2012 #15
Done The Blue Flower May 2012 #16
Sent.... one_voice May 2012 #17
count me in ajk2821 May 2012 #18
If 0.0185% of the AZ population can force this idiot to request a birth certificate... LynneSin May 2012 #20
He can "request" all he wants.....Hawaii will not let him at the original thelordofhell May 2012 #22
Done - nt avebury May 2012 #24
Done. AllyCat May 2012 #25
That should also be a LTE... GoCubsGo May 2012 #27
I'd like to see the patent filed on Mitt Romney and his wiring schematics aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #28
Most of his electronics are foxconn crafted, he was "assembled" in one of those islands Dragonfli May 2012 #30
text for LTTE Sedona May 2012 #31
Excellent - what papers are you going to send this to? jillan May 2012 #33
I think our state needs a political enema ThoughtCriminal May 2012 #32
We're just going to have to work even harder making calls, knocking on doors for November. jillan May 2012 #34
It's official, I'm now a Birther W T F May 2012 #35
K and R goclark May 2012 #37
He certainly was. polmaven May 2012 #44
Well we need to pick that question up really fast goclark May 2012 #54
DAMN this is so cool bonniebgood May 2012 #38
+100,000,000! peacebird May 2012 #41
LOL Excellent. nt Lucky Luciano May 2012 #40
This is a very weak response, IMO zaj May 2012 #42
Done davidpdx May 2012 #43
Done. Dogtown May 2012 #46
Done Borchkins May 2012 #47
K&R and done. 99Forever May 2012 #48
Mito's family men look just like my friend's family men...exactly goclark May 2012 #49
Among other things, AZ AoS Bennett is also a Mormon. BlueMTexpat May 2012 #51
Well, well, well... sound like someone is doing his bit to fulfill the beac May 2012 #53
Sent one more to him. mlevans May 2012 #52
 

loggerboots

(11 posts)
21. Mormon polygamy
Mon May 21, 2012, 02:13 PM
May 2012

GGgrandaddy Romney was a polygamist. Romney's father was born of polygamist's.Lets see those Birth certificates.

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
2. Done, kicked, recd. Please X-post in the Arizona forum
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:18 PM
May 2012

Edited to add; The site does not ask if you live in Az. so, if you've ever been to Az., if you ever want to visit Az., if you never want to go to Az. or if you have simply had enough of the birther crap, please let our SacOfShit know.

The fucking teabag said he is going birther because he received 1,200 e-mails asking him to. Lets beat that #

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
3. i sent it
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:37 PM
May 2012

just left off "as one of your constituents" since i'm just a concerned citizen from another state.

savalez

(3,517 posts)
6. I'd prefer you remove "understandable" from the second sentence.
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:41 PM
May 2012

Because it's not. It'll read the same.

Great letter and point though!

jillan

(39,451 posts)
8. I didn't write that - in fact I used my own words when I emailed him.... but
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:45 PM
May 2012

I think in this case, volume is going to speak louder than good grammar

Response to jillan (Reply #8)

savalez

(3,517 posts)
29. This is a BBS.
Mon May 21, 2012, 04:34 PM
May 2012

Messages are typed fast and sometimes words are misspelled as a result. Most overlook it.

That said, spaces are not normally placed before periods.




Dogtown

(4,668 posts)
45. So, you can slam a legitimate poster over a misspelling,
Tue May 22, 2012, 08:40 AM
May 2012

but get to make up your own grammar rules for "emphasis"?

That's a bullshit evasion and you've lost your credibility.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
50. So, you can slam a legitimate poster over a misspelling,
Tue May 22, 2012, 10:52 AM
May 2012

Also, "is" is spelled with an "s" not just an "i".

"grammer i not the issue"

I mean, if you can't spell a two letter word.....

savalez

(3,517 posts)
26. Grammar is not the issue
Mon May 21, 2012, 03:29 PM
May 2012

It is the use of the word "understandable" which in my view gives credence to his request.

The understandable concern over the current...

vs.

The concern over the current...

Just saying.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. I believe a response is in order
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:43 PM
May 2012

As soon as the Arizona Secretary of State produces the original legislation that gives him the authority to rule on a party's qualification to be the nominee for president. No copies of any alleged "enrolled" legislation. No citations to any so-called Arizona Revised Statutes. I want to see the original law, written with a quill pen, or the Secretary of State doesn't possess any authority.

How's that?

jillan

(39,451 posts)
10. That was just one person's email - the person whose idea this was.
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:54 PM
May 2012

It's volume we are after, not grammar and punctuation.
Besides, I'm beginning to wonder if the a-holes that run this state would even know the difference.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
12. A serious question -- why ISN'T he checking Romney's BC?
Mon May 21, 2012, 01:07 PM
May 2012

Either there's a State Law that sets a standard which should apply to all candidates, or the SOS is claiming that's there's a legal ambiguity about President Obama's status -- which was NOT an ambiguity for the State in 2008. If this is the case, he should be prepared to explain what the issue and what the evidence is.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
14. Exactly. Both of their fathers were born outside of the US.
Mon May 21, 2012, 01:13 PM
May 2012

It's so obvious what is going on here.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
13. Secondly, birthers also claim that since
Mon May 21, 2012, 01:11 PM
May 2012

Pres O's father was not an American Citizen that also disqualifies him, which is total bullshit, but as mentioned above, shouldn't this disqualify Mittens as well. Also, I want to see Mittens tax records!

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
39. Neither was Washington's, or Adams, or Jefferson....
Mon May 21, 2012, 09:47 PM
May 2012

Probably a couple of other Presidents. Nobody alive during the Revolution had parents born "in the US."

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
20. If 0.0185% of the AZ population can force this idiot to request a birth certificate...
Mon May 21, 2012, 02:11 PM
May 2012

then he should do the same for Romney requests

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
22. He can "request" all he wants.....Hawaii will not let him at the original
Mon May 21, 2012, 02:14 PM
May 2012

Hawaii needs a valid reason to let him see the original BC. He already has the copy.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
27. That should also be a LTE...
Mon May 21, 2012, 04:19 PM
May 2012

Any AZ residents here should consider sending a version of that as a Letter to the Editor to the Arizona Republic and every other newspaper in the state. It might not affect the SOS's actions, but it will certainly cast doubt about Romney's citizenship in the minds of many of the papers' readers. If they want to play the "birther" game, fine. Bring it on. Time to fight fire with fire.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
28. I'd like to see the patent filed on Mitt Romney and his wiring schematics
Mon May 21, 2012, 04:20 PM
May 2012

Last edited Tue May 22, 2012, 11:37 AM - Edit history (1)

Was the manufacturing of Mitt Romney off-shored to China? Was his synthetic skin at least made from plastic derived from domestic oil production or from the middle east?

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
30. Most of his electronics are foxconn crafted, he was "assembled" in one of those islands
Mon May 21, 2012, 05:06 PM
May 2012

that lets you stick a Made in the USA sticker on it however so it's all good!

Tom Delay says if it's assembled by slave labor on the right island it is legally made in USA, that would make the Rmoneybot 2.17 a US citizen like product.

Sedona

(3,769 posts)
31. text for LTTE
Mon May 21, 2012, 06:47 PM
May 2012

I fixed up the pronouns and grammar a little for LTTE:


As one of Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett’s constituents I am
formally requesting that he verify the validity of Presidential candidate
Mitt Romney's birth certificate. The concern over the current President's
being, or not being, natural born citizen forces him to adhere to his
constituent’s concerns regarding this matter. Much like our President, Mr.
Romney spent a considerable part of his formative years, thirty months to
be exact, residing on foreign soil. This combined with his father being
born in Chihuahua, Mexico bears a striking resemblance to our President’s
situation. Has anyone even seen a copy of Mitt Romney's birth certificate?
Does or did Mitt Romney ever possess Mexican or French citizenship? I am
sure he shares these concerns considering his recent actions to find
answers regarding the President and will hold Mr. Romney to an equal
standard. I look forward to Mr. Bennett’s response.


jillan

(39,451 posts)
33. Excellent - what papers are you going to send this to?
Mon May 21, 2012, 07:39 PM
May 2012

The Az Republic is so anti-Obama that I don't know if they would dare publish this - they are horrid.

Let me know if your LTTE gets published

jillan

(39,451 posts)
34. We're just going to have to work even harder making calls, knocking on doors for November.
Mon May 21, 2012, 07:42 PM
May 2012

Hopefully we can get Carmona elected to the Senate to take over Kyl's seat.
If we can, that might help down the ticket.

We are stuck with Brewer for a couple more years tho and this jerk (being kind here) thinks he is next in line.

polmaven

(9,463 posts)
44. He certainly was.
Tue May 22, 2012, 08:02 AM
May 2012

And when he ran for president in 1968 the question of "natural born" was raised very briefly and dropped very quickly.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
54. Well we need to pick that question up really fast
Tue May 22, 2012, 12:01 PM
May 2012

I have a post in this thread that talks about how much his looks like my friend's family.

My dear friends are from Mexico and they are MEXICAN!

From now on, I will refer to MITOS family as the ROMO family.



Edit: for spelling


 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
42. This is a very weak response, IMO
Tue May 22, 2012, 12:03 AM
May 2012

I was reading the emails on TPM's site and the Hawaii AG made the point about asking Bennett if (paraphrase) everyone on the list you are compiling is being treated to the same record's scrutiny.

That effectively required Bennett to do the same for both Romney, Obama and any other Presidential candidate on the ballot in AZ.

That's such an easy out for Bennett, to just ask the same thing of Romney's camp/state.

It allows them to claim the pseudo-high road while advancing all of the very xenophobia, racism and ignorance that is at the heart of the entire birther movement. Just doing it under the same false equivilancy that the media uses to protect the crap that the GOP has been doing for years now.

For the Dems here in Arizona to consider this their strong response, is very disappointing. It give Bennett his out, all the while letting him advance his intended cause.

They need to try to shame him such that he's toxic and never able to be a serious political figure in Arizona again. At least not so among independents and swing voters.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
49. Mito's family men look just like my friend's family men...exactly
Tue May 22, 2012, 10:52 AM
May 2012

They must be related!
The Romo's Family IS Mexican imo.
My friend's family men are mexican
How I wish I had a photo to show you ...they must be related.

"Deport the ROMO
family now!!!!"

We need to see the birth certificates for the entire family.

BlueMTexpat

(15,367 posts)
51. Among other things, AZ AoS Bennett is also a Mormon.
Tue May 22, 2012, 11:00 AM
May 2012

Perhaps he thinks that's why it's OK only to check the birth certificate of the non-Mormon candidate.

"A fan of sports and music, Bennett also is active in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. From 1978 to 1980, he was an LDS missionary in southern Japan. Bennett is an Eagle Scout, and graduated from Arizona State University in 1984 with an accounting degree."


http://www.azsos.gov/info/bio.htm
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