(CNN just now) If, as many on the right suggest that we can never stop gun killings and no law on the books will

[kelliekat44]

or would have prevented the mass shootings that have and continue to take place, then why do these same folks favor endless wars in the name of religion? The same thing is true about war. If religious nuts can never be fully erased from society and if people have a right to their own religion and it has been going on all through out history, why do we spend so many lives and resources on fighting wars and taking more lives?

It just strikes me that the arguments in favor of not being able to do anything about guns fits perfectly with the argument that there is nothing you can do about religion. Just listen to the arguments from the NRA and gun lovers and substitute war or fighting ISIS or "Islamic terrorist or extremists."

Take away guns and take away religion ...

[oberliner]

1. Take away religion?

That doesn't seem a particularly progressive thing to suggest.

In fact it seems to play into the right-wing stereotype of a leftist.

[LonePirate]

4. The progressive tactic is to educate people so they can recognize religion as fanciful bullshit

That's how you eradicate religion.

[oberliner]

5. Some very educated people do not see religion that way

I do not understand why the eradication of religion would be a progressive goal. What a person believes privately ought to be their own business as long as it does not impinge on the rights of others.

[LonePirate]

8. When have true believers never tried to impinge the rights of others?

[oberliner]

10. Most of the time

For most religious people I know, their faith is a private matter.

[cherokeeprogressive]

12. And to think; that happened only a couple decades ago...

You'd think people would be carrying pitchforks and torches in the streets still.

[cherokeeprogressive]

14. Been to all those places and more, including the Nevada desert...

Where people dance naked around a "Burning Man".

Your point?

[LondonReign2]

16. Hell, Ralph Reed and all the pontificators that have come after come to mind

[LanternWaste]

18. National borders are "fanciful bullshit" too.

National borders, existing nowhere but our imaginations are "fanciful bullshit" too.

Though I do realize we often hold up some of the imaginary as more real than other imaginary constructs depending on our biases.

[jberryhill]

2. "the argument that there is nothing you can do about religion"

And who, pray tell, has been making that argument, and in response to what?

[Sherman A1]

3. That is an excellent question

I too wonder just where this comment by the OP comes from?

[Bluenorthwest]

6. This OP, the morning after the Nov 2014 election, posted an OP blaming LGBT people for the election

loss.
"The openness and brazenness of the LBGT agenda and the media flaunting of gay marriages all across the country cost Dems dearly and threatens to do so in the future."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025764803#post45

[flamin lib]

7. Guns ARE religion nt

[CTyankee]

9. oh yes, they try to dress it up differently but it certainly IS.

That is why "no can do" when it comes to more stringent regulation of guns.