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Long overdue Debbie Wasserman Schultz Appreciation thread (Original Post) FlatBaroque Aug 2015 OP
Better than all the rest? nt Rex Aug 2015 #1
LOL trumad Aug 2015 #2
For some reason the pic in the OP reminded me of the movie Pan's Labyrinth... Electric Monk Aug 2015 #23
ROFL. I can see her eating one of those little flying guys. CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #41
That's brilliant LittleBlue Aug 2015 #43
Aw, I thought you might be a Once Upon a Time fan! BuelahWitch Aug 2015 #51
Damn you..... daleanime Aug 2015 #55
You're shittin' me, right? HappyPlace Aug 2015 #3
LOL FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #5
Yes! earthside Aug 2015 #4
We may have lost many more seats were it not for Debbie FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #6
like the one where she supported the R over the D candidate? hobbit709 Aug 2015 #16
Well ya know. Political realities FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #19
Some advice.... daleanime Aug 2015 #56
Limiting debates is really going to boost Democratic enthusiasm too!!! highprincipleswork Aug 2015 #60
OMG, were you serious in appreciating her? I assumed thiis was a sarcastic OP. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #77
If I didn't know better, H2O Man Aug 2015 #78
not her fault dems sit on their assets during midterm elections Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #7
It might be partially her fault. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #38
Isn't it part of her job to inspire voters... SMC22307 Aug 2015 #39
The uninspired should just sit home treestar Aug 2015 #87
They do sit home. Obama called out minorities and young'uns who sit out mid-terms. SMC22307 Aug 2015 #91
maybe but repubs would crawl thru broken glass to vote. we need self motivation.also Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #93
Do you think they're self-motivated? I don't. SMC22307 Aug 2015 #94
Then who is? Who in the Democratic Party's organizational... JHB Aug 2015 #47
You know that, broadly speaking, that's not her job? brooklynite Aug 2015 #49
No, it's to "advance President Obama's agenda and to elect Democratic candidates across the country" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #63
This right here is one of the best, most revealing posts FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #66
You found a press release. I'm telling you what she does. brooklynite Aug 2015 #68
She's misrepresenting her job to the public, for a start muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #71
And yet, the President appointed her and seems happy with her... brooklynite Aug 2015 #74
I would advise the other poster in this exchange to stop digging FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #75
LOL, sure she did! nt Logical Aug 2015 #73
She just blocked a DNC resolution to support the Iran Deal. Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #8
She knows who she works for. FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #12
Apparently the Corporations and AIPAC. dieter Aug 2015 #27
And she voted for TPA as well... cascadiance Aug 2015 #18
the TPA was being promoted by the man who gave her the DNC gig dsc Aug 2015 #88
It just doesn't get any better than this - LiberalElite Aug 2015 #9
never having this thread would not even be long overdue NRaleighLiberal Aug 2015 #10
I had to think about that - LiberalElite Aug 2015 #13
Yesterday this thread would have not been underdue. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #22
That there's funny, I don't care who you are. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #11
“If you’re in a foxhole, you want Debbie alongside you because not only is she charming... PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #14
Nice FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #15
That's "President Obama" philosslayer Aug 2015 #54
I don't think Obama has ever been in a fox hole INdemo Aug 2015 #80
The best at what? The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #17
We all have our special talent, right? n/t FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #20
Barf. hifiguy Aug 2015 #21
... spanone Aug 2015 #24
I want to rec this thread! Wilms Aug 2015 #25
PLEASE do NOT rec. FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #26
I kinda hate to let people miss some funny .. . . . .n/t annabanana Aug 2015 #30
Good lord left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #28
Depreciation? NRaleighLiberal Aug 2015 #29
GOOD one!. . .n/t annabanana Aug 2015 #31
I'm 'flat broke' here. pacalo Aug 2015 #32
Kick. But how the hell can you be the first to recommend? Lochloosa Aug 2015 #33
The first thing that picture reminded me of was... Medusa. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2015 #34
I can see it... Electric Monk Aug 2015 #37
Unrec. Aerows Aug 2015 #46
Is she trying to start a wave? (She's not much of a Democrat.) nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #35
She's doing "jazz hands" -nt Liberal Veteran Aug 2015 #50
"I surrender"? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #64
She's up there with Donna Brazile. Octafish Aug 2015 #36
Nice to see you posting here, Debbie. /nt Marr Aug 2015 #40
Simply the best at incompetency and killing the Democrats chances in the Lorien Aug 2015 #42
I've met her on several occasions tavernier Aug 2015 #45
harrumph... Deuce Aug 2015 #44
I heard her speak at a convention in 2000. hay rick Aug 2015 #48
Goes to show... SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #53
Kidding, right? nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #52
Is this a joke? roody Aug 2015 #57
I'll have what you're smoking. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #58
Don't bogart it either when you get it, that must be some good shit. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #62
Thread winner. (nt) Paladin Aug 2015 #69
I have nothing against her personally or as a member of Congress. But she has been a terrible chair. phleshdef Aug 2015 #59
Redstate.com, eh? RandiFan1290 Aug 2015 #61
Just outed itself. PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #65
She's awful (nt) bigwillq Aug 2015 #67
Supporting Florida Republicans against Democrats is good? eridani Aug 2015 #70
When there are former/or currrent Republicans that are in charge of the INdemo Aug 2015 #79
LOL! Good one! You had me fooled and thinking you were drunk!! :-) Logical Aug 2015 #72
Not me, thanks. nruthie Aug 2015 #76
DWS stood up to Romney in 2012 campaign when he talkied about INdemo Aug 2015 #81
This is a thankless job and I think that she is doing a good job Gothmog Aug 2015 #82
Wait...checking...well, I am on Democratic Underground... MineralMan Aug 2015 #83
Goes to show how some DUers really like Democrats who are Democrats. Octafish Aug 2015 #85
Goes to show something, I suppose... MineralMan Aug 2015 #86
I don't think she has time to read all that she needs to know the stuff she needs to do her job. Octafish Aug 2015 #89
Time To REMOVE Debbie Wasserman Schultz As DNC Chair? WAY PAST TIME! Electric Monk Aug 2015 #92
Exactly. H2O Man Aug 2015 #90
Allen Dulles and John Foster Dulles live! Octafish Aug 2015 #95
If you can appreciate that republicans took the house and senate onecaliberal Aug 2015 #84

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
51. Aw, I thought you might be a Once Upon a Time fan!
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:02 AM
Aug 2015

Rumpelstiltskin meets a seer with eyes in the palms of her hands!

earthside

(6,960 posts)
4. Yes!
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 06:45 PM
Aug 2015

Here's to her great success leading the Democratic Party to victory in the 2014 Congressional elections!!!

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
56. Some advice....
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:18 AM
Aug 2015

get a shovel and be careful of your back, we don't want to lose you. Have a great night.

H2O Man

(73,065 posts)
78. If I didn't know better,
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 09:25 AM
Aug 2015

I'd think it might be an attempt to divide Democrats. But it can't be: no one really thinks she's doing an adequate job. So it must be sarcasm.

SMC22307

(8,087 posts)
39. Isn't it part of her job to inspire voters...
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 07:48 PM
Aug 2015

to get them to understand what the Democratic Party can do for them?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
87. The uninspired should just sit home
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 11:29 AM
Aug 2015

and dream and wait to be inspired. That'll get them what they want. In their dreams.

SMC22307

(8,087 posts)
91. They do sit home. Obama called out minorities and young'uns who sit out mid-terms.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 01:06 PM
Aug 2015

Shouldn't DWS be doing SOMETHING to convince them to vote for Democrats? I mean, what the hell is she paid for? And wasn't it Kaine who gave us the all-inspiring Circle D logo? How'd that work out?

Dean understood we needed to reach out to voters who moved away from the Democratic Party. I forget his exact words, but it had to do with good ol' boys in trucks who are just as concerned about the economy as the rest of us. There is a MASSIVE pool of dissatisfied Americans the Democratic Party should be tapping into.

The conventions are nice and shiny, but what is the Democratic Party doing the off years to inspire voters?

SMC22307

(8,087 posts)
94. Do you think they're self-motivated? I don't.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:50 PM
Aug 2015

They've been brainwashed for decades by hate radio, FUX and wacko mega-preachers. They're angry. They've been taught to fear. Their strings are being pulled over God, gays, guns, Mexicans, Muslims, you name it.

What EXACTLY is it that the head of the DNC does, besides fundraise? What coherent message are we hearing from DWS's DNC, other than "open your wallets"?

JHB

(37,106 posts)
47. Then who is? Who in the Democratic Party's organizational...
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:39 PM
Aug 2015

...structure is responsible for making every effort to get Democratic voters to the polls? Or at least is responsible at the national level for coordinating state and local assets to do so?

Because if the answer is "nobody", then that's a problem right there, and it makes it DWS's problem that it hasn't been addressed.

brooklynite

(93,271 posts)
49. You know that, broadly speaking, that's not her job?
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:15 PM
Aug 2015

Her job is to raise funds and organize at the State level. Not to set Party campaign policy or select candidates.

muriel_volestrangler

(100,993 posts)
63. No, it's to "advance President Obama's agenda and to elect Democratic candidates across the country"
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:42 AM
Aug 2015

You should check with the Democratic Party:

As the chair of the Democratic National Committee, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz works every day to advance President Obama's agenda and to elect Democratic candidates across the country.

First elected to Congress in 2004, Rep. Wasserman Schultz has been a rising presence in the House and a tireless advocate for Democratic values. Prior to becoming Chair, Rep. Wasserman Schultz was DNC Vice Chair.

Rep. Wasserman Schultz became the Democratic National Committee Chair on May 4th, 2011.

https://www.democrats.org/person/debbie-wasserman-schultz

See, there's the problem - you're heavily involved in the Democratic Party, and I found that from a paid Google advertisement, just searching for "Democratic Party" "chair". The party is paying to get the message out about what she does, and the people working with it don't even have an idea! No wonder things aren't going smoothly.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
66. This right here is one of the best, most revealing posts
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:56 AM
Aug 2015

I have read in a long while. Well done Voletsrangler, well done.

brooklynite

(93,271 posts)
68. You found a press release. I'm telling you what she does.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 07:19 AM
Aug 2015

She chairs the Democratic National Committee and helps set broad Party goals. She raises money. She acts as a conduit between the President, the Party and it's major supporters (Unions, advocacy groups etc.) She occasionally acts as a spokesperson for the Party. She works to build up and support State Parties.

What she does NOT do is select candidates (that's left up to the DSCC, DCCC, DGA and DLCC). Or decide what the Party's position is on national Policy (to the extent that anyone does, it's the President). Or act as the sole voice for the Party (again, the President takes the lead).

The complain is that she "lost" the 2014 Election. Now, I'll concur that she didn't find a way to address the off-year turnout problem, but neither did her predecessors. Beyond that, what exactly did she do that was wrong?

muriel_volestrangler

(100,993 posts)
71. She's misrepresenting her job to the public, for a start
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:27 AM
Aug 2015

If she claims her job is to get Democrats elected, but it isn't, then she's misleading the voters. Not a good idea.

She has just blocked an attempt to advance Obama's agenda (on Iran, probably his signature foreign policy accomplishment). Not a good idea.

"She acts as a conduit between the President, the Party and it's major supporters (Unions, advocacy groups etc.)" - except, it seems, when she doesn't like what the President is doing. Not a good idea.

"What she does NOT do is select candidates" - leave your red herring out of this. No-one was saying she selected candidates. "that's left up to the DSCC, DCCC, DGA and DLCC" - I thought it happened through primaries.

" Or decide what the Party's position is on national Policy" - again, you're the only one here flogging that dead red herring.

I think what people are looking for is someone successful, like Howard Dean, at encouraging activity in the party. And not someone who blocks people who want to support the President.

 

dieter

(94 posts)
27. Apparently the Corporations and AIPAC.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 07:11 PM
Aug 2015

If you look at her voting record on TPP and lack of support for the Iran Deal.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
18. And she voted for TPA as well...
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 07:01 PM
Aug 2015

Real friend of the corporate sector she is!

BTW, our county's PCPs a few days ago UNANIMOUSLY voted in support of a resolution supporting the Iran deal too. I don't remember that much solid support for a resolution in a long time! She's really out of touch with the grass roots!

http://www.washcodems.org/sites/washington.oregondemocrats.org/files/attachments/Iran%20Resolution%20009_0.pdf

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
14. “If you’re in a foxhole, you want Debbie alongside you because not only is she charming...
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 06:54 PM
Aug 2015

and she has that dazzling smile, she’s tough as nails.
And that’s what’s needed during challenging times,” - Barack Obama

(See: http://miami.cbslocal.com/2011/06/13/president-obama-heading-to-miami/ )

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
25. I want to rec this thread!
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 07:06 PM
Aug 2015

Yes I do. No I don't.

Thank you, Flat. This thread is fun...in a depressing kind of way.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,042 posts)
34. The first thing that picture reminded me of was... Medusa.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 07:29 PM
Aug 2015

I'm sorry, that's not nice, but... Medusa. Definitely. Medusa.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
42. Simply the best at incompetency and killing the Democrats chances in the
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:04 PM
Aug 2015

General election. The best at corruption and brown nosing that the party has to offer. She needs to be drop kicked from the DNC before she does any more damage.

Those dead, dead eyes...

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tavernier

(12,271 posts)
45. I've met her on several occasions
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:24 PM
Aug 2015

She has very pretty eyes, probably her best feature. She is also very hard working and dedicated. Unfortunately, she's not any good at the bottom line. She should be replaced, but not villainized for her appearance.

hay rick

(7,441 posts)
48. I heard her speak at a convention in 2000.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:46 PM
Aug 2015

She spoke like a fire-breathing populist and had my union brothers (NALC) standing and cheering.

Seems like a long time ago. Very, very sad. That DWS is obviously dead. Apropos to the current DWS: LOL.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
59. I have nothing against her personally or as a member of Congress. But she has been a terrible chair.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 01:15 AM
Aug 2015

She just isn't very good in that role.

INdemo

(6,993 posts)
79. When there are former/or currrent Republicans that are in charge of the
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 09:25 AM
Aug 2015

Florida state Democratic Party what exactly does that say about Debbie.

INdemo

(6,993 posts)
81. DWS stood up to Romney in 2012 campaign when he talkied about
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 09:38 AM
Aug 2015

"gutting" Obama Care. I don't agree with her on the DNC leadership tactics but I respect her for what she did as a Cancer survivor to encourage other Women.

MineralMan

(146,060 posts)
83. Wait...checking...well, I am on Democratic Underground...
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 10:07 AM
Aug 2015

How strange. It seemed like I clicked the wrong link or something.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
85. Goes to show how some DUers really like Democrats who are Democrats.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 10:12 AM
Aug 2015

For instance with Debbie Wasserman Schultz, she has sided with the warmongers over the peacemakers when it comes to the Iran nuclear deal. That's the GOP/War Party/PNAC position than traditional Democratic policy. So, there's that.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
89. I don't think she has time to read all that she needs to know the stuff she needs to do her job.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:09 PM
Aug 2015
The remarkable, unfathomable ignorance of Debbie Wasserman Schultz

The Chair of the Democratic National Committee is completely unaware of one of the biggest stories of the Obama years

Glenn Greenwald
theguardian.com, Friday 19 October 2012 20.38 EDT

On 29 May 2012, the New York Times published a remarkable 6,000-word story on its front page about what it termed President Obama's "kill list". It detailed the president's personal role in deciding which individuals will end up being targeted for assassination by the CIA based on Obama's secret, unchecked decree that they are "terrorists" and deserve to die.

Based on interviews with "three dozen of his current and former advisers", the Times' Jo Becker and Scott Shane provided extraordinary detail about Obama's actions, including how he "por[es] over terrorist suspects' biographies on what one official calls the macabre 'baseball cards'" and how he "insist[s] on approving every new name on an expanding 'kill list'". At a weekly White House meeting dubbed "Terror Tuesdays", Obama then decides who will die without a whiff of due process, transparency or oversight. It was this process that resulted in the death of US citizen Anwar Awlaki in Yemen, and then two weeks later, the killing of his 16-year-old American son, Abdulrahman, by drone.

The Times "kill list" story made a huge impact and was widely discussed and condemned by media figures, politicians, analysts, and commentators. Among other outlets, the New York Times itself harshly editorialized against Obama's program in an editorial entitled "Too Much Power For a President", denouncing the revelations as "very troubling" and argued: "No one in that position should be able to unilaterally order the killing of American citizens or foreigners located far from a battlefield - depriving Americans of their due-process rights - without the consent of someone outside his political inner circle."

That Obama has a "kill list" has been known since January, 2010, and has been widely reported and discussed in every major American newspaper since April 2010. A major controversy over chronic White House leaks often featured complaints about this article (New York Times, 5 June 2012: "Senators to Open Inquiry Into 'Kill List' and Iran Security Leaks&quot . The Attorney General, Eric Holder, gave a major speech defending it.

But Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Democratic Congresswoman from Florida and the Chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, does not know about any of this. She has never heard of any of it. She has managed to remain completely ignorant about the fact that President Obama has asserted and exercised the power to secretly place human beings, including US citizens, on his "kill list" and then order the CIA to extinguish their lives.

CONTINUED...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/20/wasserman-schultz-kill-list

H2O Man

(73,065 posts)
90. Exactly.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:11 PM
Aug 2015

I believe that DWS has betrayed the Democratic Party. And I believe that it is justified when people express their disgust with her on DU.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
95. Allen Dulles and John Foster Dulles live!
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 05:33 PM
Aug 2015

The foreign policy of the United States did a 180 the second Jimmy Carter became an ex-president. Funny how history "works."



The October Surprise Was Real

by CARMELO RUIZ-MARRERO
CounterPunch, JULY 11, 2014

In January 1992 I published my first journalistic article ever. Published in Puerto Rico’s Claridad weekly newspaper, it was titled “The October Surprise”. In it I affirmed that the 1980 Reagan-Bush campaign bargained secretly with Iranian radicals for the postponement of the liberation of 52 Americans that they were holding hostage. These hostages were employees of the US embassy in Iran’s capital city of Teheran, which had been stormed by militants loyal to the Ayatollah Khomeini in November 1979. This secret deal, known as the October Surprise, frustrated the attempts of US president Jimmy Carter to obtain the hostages’ release in time for the elections in November. This failure cost Carter his reelection, and swept Republican candidate Ronald Reagan into the presidency. Polls carried out before the election showed that the hostage issue was of top importance in the minds of the American electorate.

The Republican campaign’s main negotiators in this deal were George H. W. Bush, vice presidential candidate and former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) director, and William Casey, the campaign’s director and veteran spook who spied for the Office of Strategic Services during World War Two. Once elected, president Reagan appointed Casey to direct the CIA.

The hostages were freed the same day Reagan was sworn in as his nation’s fortieth president on January 1981. What was in it for the Iranians? Weapons, tons of them. Iran needed them badly in order to repel an invasion by Iraq. The Iran-Iraq war lasted from 1980 to 1988 and took approximately one million lives. The much-publicized wars in Central America in those years positively pale in comparison to the horror and carnage of this Middle East war, which was almost certainly the bloodiest of that decade. The October Surprise conspiracy and the arms deals related to the Iran-Iraq war led to the Iran-Contra affair, the biggest political scandal of the 1980’s.

This is very serious business: aiding and abetting a kidnapping, secretly undermining a president’s foreign policy- with the express purpose of tilting election results at home, high treason. You could fry in the electric chair for less than this.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/11/the-october-surprise-was-real/



If the nation's news media did their job, this would all be front page news: The Carter Administration was sabotaged from within by Traitors who would foist Reagan, Bush, another Bush and who knows what else upon America in the form of left behind molery through the three branches of government. Certainly Treason should not be the second story to Kimandkanyelina.

PS: Like a field of poppy covered commas, bending and waving in waves of red; each frigging green blade of grass says during the hurricane: "There is much power in the wind. And it's free."

onecaliberal

(32,181 posts)
84. If you can appreciate that republicans took the house and senate
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 10:08 AM
Aug 2015

Along with many statehouses on her watch.
She is a Multi car train wreck.

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