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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 02:59 PM Aug 2015

Time To REMOVE Debbie Wasserman Schultz As DNC Chair? WAY PAST TIME!





There are far too many self-serving careerist Democrats in politics to be able to say Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the worst. But people do say it. And she is certainly one of the worst. When she was a state senator in Florida she cut a gerrymandering deal with the Republicans that gave her an unassailably Jewish congressional district made for her forever. In return the GOP got far more narrowly safe congressional seats than their share of the statewide vote would make reasonable. And in the state legislature, as in Congress, she was and has been a deal-maker with all the worst crooks with special interests they needed taken care of-- from the private prison industry to the Fanjul brothers and their sugar empire.

Politically, her conservatism has been a catastrophe for Florida Democrats. As the head of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, she endorsed three corrupt conservative Republicans instead of their Democratic challengers! She has been disrespectful-- and downright evil-- towards Democratic candidates who were not conservative self-funders. A New Dem sleazebag, she is constantly pushing the Democratic Party to the economic right from within. And she's been rewarded for her efforts with the chairmanship of the DNC.

As chair of the DNC she has raised immense sums of money for herself and has undermined Democratic Party values and principles and pushed her own reactionary agenda, giving credence to right-wing nonsense from the "dangers" of medical marijuana to the "dangers" of opening up to Cuba. Yesterday Dan Balz and Philip Rucker reported in the Washington Post that Wasserman Schultz used her position as party chair to block a resolution at the DNC conclave in Minneapolis backing Obama on the Iran deal.




Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz prevented consideration of a resolution at the party’s summer meeting here that praised President Obama and offered backing for the nuclear agreement with Iran, according to knowledgeable Democrats.

The resolution was drafted with the intention of putting the national committee on record in support of the agreement as Congress prepares to take up the issue when members return from their August recess.

As a fallback, James Zogby, the co-chair of the Resolutions Committee, led a move to prepare a letter of support for the president and the Iran agreement that eventually gained signatures from a sizable majority of the members of the national committee. Zogby said Saturday that, in the end, this produced a satisfactory outcome.

“We wanted to show support for the president,” he said. “We found that the best way to show support was a letter that members would sign on to, and the overwhelming majority of DNC members signed onto the letter. This is the President Obama we elected in 2008 who said, ‘I choose diplomacy over conflict,’ and he did it.”

...Some Democrats on the national committee who were unhappy that the resolution did not come up for consideration said that, as DNC chair, Wasserman Schultz owed her allegiance in this instance to the president, regardless of her own local political considerations.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/29/dems-say-party-chair-blocked-iran-resolution-at-dnc-meeting/





MoveOn.org had a petition up within hours to remove her as DNC chair. You can read it and sign it here.

Isn't one Republican Party enough?


http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com
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Time To REMOVE Debbie Wasserman Schultz As DNC Chair? WAY PAST TIME! (Original Post) Segami Aug 2015 OP
Done! I signed the petition. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #1
Amen billhicks76 Aug 2015 #16
I SIGNED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! trueblue2007 Aug 2015 #54
So did I! calimary Aug 2015 #135
Also signed!!! Bubzer Aug 2015 #138
Right there with you. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2015 #86
Bet this gets hidden... Blus4u Aug 2015 #2
This is NOT primary RobertEarl Aug 2015 #6
Obligatory: there are probably no fruits in their knickers..... erronis Aug 2015 #12
Why would you assume that? merrily Aug 2015 #96
95 recs and 4 hours later, it would appear that you lost that bet. nt Electric Monk Aug 2015 #47
Guess you were wrong. nt Logical Aug 2015 #60
Wrong... gettin' wronger by the minute. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #68
As long as she isn't photoshopped to look like Jar Jar... cascadiance Aug 2015 #132
But...appreciation thread redux? Rex Aug 2015 #3
Nothing left for us to do Segami Aug 2015 #4
Yes, but singing the EXPLICIT version . . . DrBulldog Aug 2015 #32
Or we could just listen. merrily Aug 2015 #97
That's too lenient. Elwood P Dowd Aug 2015 #5
Been done with Debby for a long time now. How she keeps her position is a mystery to me. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2015 #87
Maybe you should take this up with the President... brooklynite Aug 2015 #7
Hillary wants more debates RobertEarl Aug 2015 #8
..because all petitions are just feel good self exercises. L0oniX Aug 2015 #15
Internet petitions? Pretty much... brooklynite Aug 2015 #38
Ah so they still have snail mail petitions? L0oniX Aug 2015 #39
Better than that... brooklynite Aug 2015 #69
Yeah, that'll work. lol nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #92
Snail Mail is still the best. bvar22 Aug 2015 #141
I've been informed that there is a difference between internet and email. L0oniX Aug 2015 #149
Funny you should say that a2liberal Aug 2015 #20
It's only been a few hours . . . DrBulldog Aug 2015 #33
You really hate democracy don't you? nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #74
Not at all; I just hate slacktivism... brooklynite Aug 2015 #77
She should have been removed last November Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #9
they really, sincerely think the campaign was perfect--it's not the creators' fault voters didn't MisterP Aug 2015 #11
If the Wall Street Democrats have to resort to that lame excuse after every election, then . . . Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #43
it works out GREAT--for them: their delaying tactics have worked so far MisterP Aug 2015 #45
+ 1kW Marty McGraw Aug 2015 #134
Welcome to DU, Mr. McGraw Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #136
Thank you Marty McGraw Aug 2015 #137
Not the fault of the voters, but the fault of liberals who failed to vote. merrily Aug 2015 #101
She should have been kicked to the curb in 2008: bvar22 Aug 2015 #65
That's nothing. Democrats began 2010 with massive control of both houses. Kaine got a Senate seat. merrily Aug 2015 #99
Done. Phlem Aug 2015 #10
DWS is more of a Republican than she is a Democrat. bvar22 Aug 2015 #19
Nice. Phlem Aug 2015 #25
This encapusalates exactly what is wrong with today's Democratic Party. bvar22 Aug 2015 #28
This I'm not surprised by. Phlem Aug 2015 #34
Not so sure of Max Baucus' reward Sienna86 Aug 2015 #59
With the lucre Baucus is pulling in today, bvar22 Aug 2015 #66
Max Baucus won't be mixing with the crowd that has to breathe that air. delrem Aug 2015 #89
If ambassadorships are not intended as rewards, why do so many go to big donors? merrily Aug 2015 #100
Ambassadorships are NOT rewards.<wink, wink> They ALWAYS go to the most qualified citizens.<wink> Raster Aug 2015 #112
Just think: the face of the USA in any given country may be that of the richest donor. merrily Aug 2015 #113
And "treated like royalty" is not far from the mark. Many exclusive perks and incentives go... Raster Aug 2015 #115
Two of my cousins married ambassadors (not from America). merrily Aug 2015 #117
A "Democratic Socialist movement"? former9thward Aug 2015 #42
Thanks for your concern. Phlem Aug 2015 #44
Thanks for yours.... former9thward Aug 2015 #48
Democratic socialists operate in a capitalistic system--and within the Democratic Party. merrily Aug 2015 #102
Both FDR and LBJ would laugh at being described as socialists. former9thward Aug 2015 #147
Exactly my point. Democratic Socialist is not the same as socialist. merrily Sep 2015 #150
Yep. Poli sci 101 nt laundry_queen Sep 2015 #152
Thanks. Google 101 will also do it. Even DU Site search. merrily Sep 2015 #153
Who said they were? former9thward Sep 2015 #154
No they absolutely would not laugh at that. merrily Sep 2015 #155
They were liberal capitalist. former9thward Sep 2015 #156
Sanders has always been a liberal capitalist. That is exactly what Democratic Socialists are. merrily Sep 2015 #157
I understand your definitions. former9thward Sep 2015 #158
They are not my definitions. merrily Sep 2015 #159
What makes anyone think that she is a real democrat? A virus in sheep's clothing, perhaps? erronis Aug 2015 #13
Signed! Milliesmom Aug 2015 #14
A thread which is WAY overdue. K&R closeupready Aug 2015 #17
K&R DocMac Aug 2015 #18
Done. n/t Bonhomme Richard Aug 2015 #21
The clown make-up proves that she belongs in the clown car. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #22
God, I wish. Hulk Aug 2015 #23
Done and thanks for posting. wilsonbooks Aug 2015 #24
Tried to email her oldandhappy Aug 2015 #26
You can give feedback regarding her, and the debate schedule, at the DNC contact page Babel_17 Aug 2015 #61
Appreciate this. Thank you. oldandhappy Aug 2015 #76
Snail Mail works better. bvar22 Aug 2015 #142
I used the Zip Code +4 from her office in Aventura, FL cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #71
Cool! Thanks. oldandhappy Aug 2015 #75
Signed with gusto! City Lights Aug 2015 #27
I really believe the Democrats and Republicans have been working a deal to split America 50/50. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #50
Not only that, but they are using their best [i]Madison Ave[/i] tech... bvar22 Aug 2015 #63
Kick and signed. glinda Aug 2015 #30
Done with her! I signed the petition. DrBulldog Aug 2015 #31
Your petition will have zero effect on the DNC. MohRokTah Aug 2015 #35
I've never been able to take this woman seriously. connecticut yankee Aug 2015 #36
I used to think "Curly" was cute, then I stopped looking at her . . . DrBulldog Aug 2015 #37
Who exactly supports her? world wide wally Aug 2015 #40
The very wealthy Cuban exile community in South Florida, bvar22 Aug 2015 #143
With friends like this, who needs enemas? world wide wally Aug 2015 #145
The head of the DNC endorses REPUBLICANS? Why CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #41
After she bravely sided with Sheldon Adelson in favor of arresting cancer patients who smoke pot? Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #46
To be fair, she told the originator of that bill, John Morgan, that she would back djean111 Aug 2015 #52
yeah, someone finally clued her in that it's not 1996, and "lets lock up drug users" doesnt play as Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #53
How Israel Became A Medical Marijuana Powerhouse Segami Aug 2015 #55
I always think it's funny when Xtian Fundies get all goopy for Israel. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #56
Heh heh...yup Segami Aug 2015 #57
Israel is seen as necessary for the Second Coming. merrily Aug 2015 #104
Yeah, I understand the comic book, sunday school "reasoning", so to speak. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #144
Well, no one ever said that the religious right doesn't have a great sense of humor about merrily Aug 2015 #146
I cannot rec this enough. Bubzer Aug 2015 #49
SIGNED! passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #51
There's another petition at whitehouse.gov as well Babel_17 Aug 2015 #58
That's a fake "White House" website George II Aug 2015 #84
Nope, it's legit. Babel_17 Aug 2015 #85
K&R - Hell Yah!! Petition signed -nt- 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #62
DONE! Auggie Aug 2015 #64
Done rbrnmw Aug 2015 #67
She'll be there until the election is over. Historic NY Aug 2015 #70
It simple really V0ltairesGh0st Aug 2015 #72
Thanks OP - signed <end> PumpkinAle Aug 2015 #73
I do not like her. Lifelong Protester Aug 2015 #78
Signed it left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #79
Signed. ReallyIAmAnOptimist Aug 2015 #80
Come to think of it svpadgham Aug 2015 #81
Done... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #82
First petition I've signed in a while. n/t FourScore Aug 2015 #83
Over 7,000 signatures LittleGirl Aug 2015 #88
Signed! BeanMusical Aug 2015 #90
Signed. nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #91
Move-on states it very clearly. Maybe Bernie needs to demand her resignation SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2015 #93
Signed and I agree emsimon33 Aug 2015 #94
Usually, when you fail spectacularly at your job, you are replaced. PBass Aug 2015 #95
. merrily Aug 2015 #105
It is called "failing upwards", bvar22 Aug 2015 #148
What she did was unconscionable . . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #98
DWS = self-serving pol JNelson6563 Aug 2015 #103
K and R bigwillq Aug 2015 #106
Before removing DWS (and I don't say she should stay), who would you put in her place? Sancho Aug 2015 #107
Is there a worse person? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #109
Reince Prebus. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #123
They let him into the party now? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #130
Well...not much difference between him and DWS.... (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #131
WTH? 4 Debates???? 4?? Wasn't it 6 before? As if 6 weren't already too few, now Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #108
4 before Iowa. jeff47 Aug 2015 #125
She needs to go, SmittynMo Aug 2015 #110
Does DWS really work for the republicans? Botany Aug 2015 #111
And not just African-Americans. Raster Aug 2015 #114
But what about Hillary's emails? Botany Aug 2015 #118
Why, don't you know a good fixer is hard to find? Raster Aug 2015 #120
We have more Ds then Rs in this country and the future demographics for the Rs is just ..... Botany Aug 2015 #121
OKAY: rm -fR DNC/Debbie* Helen Borg Aug 2015 #116
Her conservative stance AGAINST marijuana legalization should disqualify her from B Calm Aug 2015 #119
She needs to be primaried pronto! d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #122
You'll get right on that? brooklynite Aug 2015 #124
Seeing as how the Dems are P.O.'ed at DWS d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #140
I'm afraid of clowns. I'm afraid of Debbie. Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #126
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #127
Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT Jokerman Aug 2015 #128
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #129
And she joined Pelosi in refusing to impeach Bush or Cheney too! cascadiance Aug 2015 #133
R'd with enthusiasm fadedrose Aug 2015 #139
She was elected to a 4 year term by DNC members and you want to impeach BlueStateLib Sep 2015 #151

calimary

(90,021 posts)
135. So did I!
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 01:03 PM
Aug 2015

Been agitating about this for some time now. Two of the WORST-EVER Democratic election losses in recent history have happened on HER watch. 2014 of course, and more critically, 2010 - in which the teabaggers got their big launch and they've never looked back from that, either. And what did she do about it? NOTHING.

Where is Howard Dean when we need him?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
6. This is NOT primary
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:20 PM
Aug 2015

It is about the Party.

Of course some will get their knickers in a twist over such freedom of speech. Yee shall know them by their fruits.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
132. As long as she isn't photoshopped to look like Jar Jar...
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 12:10 PM
Aug 2015

... I guess it can stay up. In another thread I had a post hidden when I made that mistake not trying to comment on her appearance, which some people were claiming, but to be more illustrative that she was a DINO, that Jar Jar looks a lot like. Just be careful. Words are more focused on what you mean and are harder to alert on. Images can be interpreted in different ways.

Fully agree with your sentiments though here!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. But...appreciation thread redux?
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:03 PM
Aug 2015

The notice the DU D.C. crowd is staying far away from these threads, I guess they finally gave up defending the indefendable.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
7. Maybe you should take this up with the President...
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:26 PM
Aug 2015

...pretty much his call.

But I'm sure 7,500 signatures (0.002% of likely Democratic voters) on an internet petition will change his mind.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
8. Hillary wants more debates
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:39 PM
Aug 2015

Well, she did in 2008.

Now she and DWS are gaming the system. Rigging it would be more like it. And the Hillary group is all in favor of the rigging. No wonder we are getting fed up with the Hillary group, eh?

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
69. Better than that...
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:57 PM
Aug 2015

there's this thing called email, where you can write a message in your own words, rather than "sign" the same message as everyone else.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
141. Snail Mail is still the best.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 03:37 PM
Aug 2015

A secretary can delete a million negative E-Mails with a single keystroke every morning.

They are forced to at least OPEN every single snail mail, because there may be money inside.
I don't do too many I-Net Polls, but will participate in Snail Mail protests.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
149. I've been informed that there is a difference between internet and email.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 06:50 PM
Aug 2015

I guess email is sent and received over 2 cans and a string.

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
20. Funny you should say that
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:25 PM
Aug 2015

because those blaming the President in another thread for what was, as you state, de facto his call, were criticized for it because technically the DNC votes on it (even though tradition is that the President makes the call and it's rubber stamped, and they knew it)

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
77. Not at all; I just hate slacktivism...
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 09:34 PM
Aug 2015

...if you REALLY want to shake things up in the DNC, I'd suggest you talk to your State Party (who appoints the State's DNC members) or let the President know....in your own words.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
9. She should have been removed last November
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:58 PM
Aug 2015

The Democrats began 2014 with the House in play and the Senate likely to be held. Somebody needs to take responsibility for that failing.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
11. they really, sincerely think the campaign was perfect--it's not the creators' fault voters didn't
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:04 PM
Aug 2015

respond to it! every loss HAS to be the voters' fault; heck, everything the GOP passes is the voters' fault for not voting for Dems who'll pass GOP programs

that's how they see the world--no wonder they're not able to really respond to the Sanders challenge: they got too greedy and had to seize the whole party and now everyone can see it's not working

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
43. If the Wall Street Democrats have to resort to that lame excuse after every election, then . . .
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:41 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sun Aug 30, 2015, 07:38 PM - Edit history (1)

. . . it must be the fault of the Wall Street Democrats. What an inspiring message they have: mosre catfood for everyone. Or vote for us and we'll put Larry Summers in charge of the economy. Or: What was wrong with the way Eric Holder didn't prosecute Legs Dimon and Pretty Boy Lloyd?

In 2006, the country was so sick of the Frat Boy and the Big Dick that there was no way the Wall Street Democrats could fuck it up, but just to be safe, Howard Dean chaired the DNC. In 2008 and 2012, we had Obama successfully masquerading as a progressive. In 2010 and 2014, there was no excuse.

The reason Hillary had been so dominant until recently is that most Democrats didn't realize that there is an alternative to Republican Lite. Now that they do, Hillary is slipping.

The 2016 election is too important to let the Wall Street Democrats blow it again.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
45. it works out GREAT--for them: their delaying tactics have worked so far
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:51 PM
Aug 2015

besides if you lose that's a great way to both beg for more money and restrict the commoners' influence, since after all they're the ones who failed to vote

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
134. + 1kW
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 12:58 PM
Aug 2015

or Rather + 1gW (giga) for the exuberant Energy potential you statement gives hope toward.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
65. She should have been kicked to the curb in 2008:
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:24 PM
Aug 2015

In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:

Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia

Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez

Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo

All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.




FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>

Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.

While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:

But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.

Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:

The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537










The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.

They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."

This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html


Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing




A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly.

bvar22
Cursed with a memory

"I want to thank Debbie Wasserman-Schultz for being an outstanding chair of our party. (Applause.) She is a great partner."--President Obama


With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
99. That's nothing. Democrats began 2010 with massive control of both houses. Kaine got a Senate seat.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 07:04 AM
Aug 2015

Before that, Dean, who was a huge success at the job 2005-2009 got booted and replaced by Kaine. The rewards and punishments seem to vary inversely with results at the polls. Kaine's midterm strategy was--and I quote---"Don't give 'em back the keys." Even Dem loyalist Jon Stewart could not believe his ears and correctly predicted disaster at the polls.

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/x3j2f8/tim-kaine

Debbie Republican Shultz's 2014 midterm strategy was "Since Obama seems to enjoy singing, let's see how he does belting out 'Say My Name.'"





It's not only DWS who needs to go. The DNC leadership needs a shake up. Third Way is not selling and their reaction to the 2014 rout was to double down.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025769052

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
10. Done.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:02 PM
Aug 2015

We, as a Democratic Socialist movement can't stop here. Every single Thirdwayer and DINO in the party needs to be gone. That's how restore order in the party. Remove the Conservative Right Wing attribute of the party because it's been controlling the party for too long and have brought us here, walking the third world path, as a country.

If they want to be Right Wing Conservatives, they shouldn't be in the Democratic Party, big tent and all.


bvar22

(39,909 posts)
19. DWS is more of a Republican than she is a Democrat.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:22 PM
Aug 2015

She endorses Republicans over solid Democrats, and appears at Republican fund raisers.




"I want to thank Debbie Wasserman-Schultz for being an outstanding chair of our party. (Applause.) She is a great partner."--President Obama

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
25. Nice.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:43 PM
Aug 2015

Obama's endorsement just wraps up everything I've been watching and following nicely.

We need to clean house!

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
28. This encapusalates exactly what is wrong with today's Democratic Party.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:53 PM
Aug 2015

Did you hear what happened to Max Baucus,
the Democratic Senator who refused to let anyone mention "Medicare for All" at his "Senate Hearing"?
...and, in fact, had some doctors and nurses (for Medicare) arrested and physically removed from the hearing room.

He was rewarded by Obama with the Ambassadorship to China...
one of the most sought after foreign assignments in the US.

Old Max will surely be filling all those off shore accounts now.
That is a BIG, WET, Thank You from President Obama.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
34. This I'm not surprised by.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 05:14 PM
Aug 2015

He went from "Populist" to "New Democrat" in the blink of an eye during his election. In his acceptance speech even. That set the tone for his whole administration and what surprises me is the amount of damage he is willing fulfill. TPP.

Ugh.

Sienna86

(2,153 posts)
59. Not so sure of Max Baucus' reward
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:04 PM
Aug 2015

I think of him everything there's a hazardous air warning in Beijing...about every other day. The air pollution is horrible there.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
66. With the lucre Baucus is pulling in today,
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:29 PM
Aug 2015

he probably commutes from Montana, and has HEPA filters on his palace in Bejing.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
89. Max Baucus won't be mixing with the crowd that has to breathe that air.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 01:28 AM
Aug 2015

He'll be the centre of some of the most lucrative investment deals on the planet.
So, of course, will his friends.

He will be part of the elite, those who don't have to owe any loyalty to any country and so who don't. Who will always be winners.

That's the kind of deal that was handed to Max Baucus.

Raster

(21,010 posts)
112. Ambassadorships are NOT rewards.<wink, wink> They ALWAYS go to the most qualified citizens.<wink>
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:29 AM
Aug 2015

merrily

(45,251 posts)
113. Just think: the face of the USA in any given country may be that of the richest donor.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:31 AM
Aug 2015

Being treated like royalty, courtesy of your tax dollar!

Raster

(21,010 posts)
115. And "treated like royalty" is not far from the mark. Many exclusive perks and incentives go...
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:43 AM
Aug 2015

hand-in-hand with Ambassadorial cred. For one, absolute diplomatic immunity. Two, privileged access to the movers and shakers and wealthy upper crust of the host country.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
117. Two of my cousins married ambassadors (not from America).
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:46 AM
Aug 2015

One second cousin married an ambassador to the UN and another second cousin married an ambassador to France. Both were career diplomats, not donors.

VERY nice, huge apartments in Manhattan and Paris, servants, the whole nine yards.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
42. A "Democratic Socialist movement"?
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:37 PM
Aug 2015

You may be a democratic socialist but the Democratic Party is not, never has been and never will be. It is one of two parties that operate in a capitalist system. Most rank and file people that vote for Democrats are not socialists. If you want a democratic socialist party you may have to find another vehicle.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
102. Democratic socialists operate in a capitalistic system--and within the Democratic Party.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 07:33 AM
Aug 2015

In the US, there is no such thing as a Democratic Socialist Party, only a Democratic Socialist movement within the Democratic Party.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12806844

The domestic policies of FDR and LBJ were very much the kinds of policies Democratic Socialists seek.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
154. Who said they were?
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 02:37 PM
Sep 2015

FDR and LBJ would laugh at being called "democratic socialists" also.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
155. No they absolutely would not laugh at that.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 02:43 PM
Sep 2015

Hey, if you can pretend to know what people who have been dead for decades would or would not laugh at if they were alive today, so can I.

But what they would or would not laugh at is beside the point anyway. Fact is, their policies were democratic socialist policies. Most decent policies are.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
156. They were liberal capitalist.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 04:55 PM
Sep 2015

Which by the way is why Sanders has never (until this campaign) identified himself as a Democrat. He has to be a Democrat for ballot purposes. I guess we have to disagree.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
157. Sanders has always been a liberal capitalist. That is exactly what Democratic Socialists are.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 04:33 AM
Sep 2015

Please see Reply 102 again. You say you get the difference between a Democratic Socialist and a socialist, but your posts have not been reflecting that difference. I wonder why that is? Do you not understand the difference, after all, or are you choosing not to understand it?

On the theory that you have been posting in good faith and simply need clarification, even though I've already given you other links, try listening to this:



Also:

"What am I trying to do in this campaign is to tell Americans what many of them don't know: that the benefits for working people are a lot, lot stronger in many other countries around the world," he has said.

Sanders points out that in many races for mayor and Congress he ran and won as an independent, not as a member of any socialist party.

And he says the kind of socialism he advocates is the Democratic socialism seen in Scandinavia and other countries in Europe. Those governments support paid sick leave, universal health care and free higher education.

"How many Americans know that in virtually every major industrialized country people are guaranteed vacation time, paid vacation time? That when you have a baby, moms and dads are guaranteed ... family leave?" he said.


http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/27/434872755/exactly-what-kind-of-socialist-is-bernie-sanders

merrily

(45,251 posts)
159. They are not my definitions.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:45 PM
Sep 2015

I have linked you to many things over these many posts, not a single one of which contains material of authorship that was original to me. But, you knew that.

What a waste of time!

erronis

(23,880 posts)
13. What makes anyone think that she is a real democrat? A virus in sheep's clothing, perhaps?
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:07 PM
Aug 2015
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
17. A thread which is WAY overdue. K&R
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:20 PM
Aug 2015

She's undoubtedly a nice person, but a horrible party boss.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
23. God, I wish.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:41 PM
Aug 2015

What a complete incompetent clown for that position. We went from Howard Dean to this? No wonder the repuKKKe party is still surviving. We play stupid and put our heads up our collective butts so they can keep up.

I'm ALL for getting someone who is NOT beholding to Israel for being elected to office.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
26. Tried to email her
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:48 PM
Aug 2015

but her email only accepts email if your zip code (including the 4 digit tag) is in her district. A note is ready to mail in the morning. Thank you for the petition link.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
61. You can give feedback regarding her, and the debate schedule, at the DNC contact page
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:07 PM
Aug 2015
http://my.democrats.org/page/s/contact-the-democrats

Please submit all political and public policy—related questions and comments, as well as any technical issues or questions about Democrats.org here.

You can also reach us via mail or phone.

Mailing address:
Democratic National Committee
430 South Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003

Main phone number: 202-863-8000


I called as well. A polite person will answer the phone, and they will listen.

P.S. You can e-mail them from the link.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
142. Snail Mail works better.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 03:52 PM
Aug 2015

At the very least it always gets opend because there may be money inside.

A million E-Mails can be deleted with a single keystroke.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
29. I really believe the Democrats and Republicans have been working a deal to split America 50/50.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:57 PM
Aug 2015

Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #29)

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
63. Not only that, but they are using their best [i]Madison Ave[/i] tech...
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:20 PM
Aug 2015

...to keep the nation appearing to be divided 50/50. That way, every election season brings in $100 BILLION,
and the "losers" get to go home and tell the locals, "WE almost won that one, and if we had had a little more money, everything would be OK."....So start donating TODAY!!!

This method applies not only to elections, but for almost every issue that comes before Congress.
SEND MORE MONEY FOR MORE REPRESENTATION!
This is the USA!


 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
31. Done with her! I signed the petition.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 05:10 PM
Aug 2015

And I passed it on to all my YOUNG relatives. After all, they have the most to lose, don't they?

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
35. Your petition will have zero effect on the DNC.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 05:17 PM
Aug 2015

Precisely none.

She is the DNC chair through the 2016 election.

End of story.

connecticut yankee

(1,730 posts)
36. I've never been able to take this woman seriously.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 05:25 PM
Aug 2015

Something about her manner just turns me off.

Also, why does the petition say "Democrat" instead of "Democratic?"

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
37. I used to think "Curly" was cute, then I stopped looking at her . . .
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 05:27 PM
Aug 2015

. . . and started listening to her mouth.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
143. The very wealthy Cuban exile community in South Florida,
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:01 PM
Aug 2015

*AIPAC

*Republicans

*President Obama and the "3rd Way" Party Leadership

"I want to thank Debbie Wasserman-Schultz for being an outstanding chair of our party. (Applause.) She is a great partner."--President Obama


With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
46. After she bravely sided with Sheldon Adelson in favor of arresting cancer patients who smoke pot?
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:53 PM
Aug 2015

why in heavens name would anyone think she's out of touch?

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
52. To be fair, she told the originator of that bill, John Morgan, that she would back
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 07:16 PM
Aug 2015

the bill if he stopped saying exactly what he thought of her. Morgan declined, and sent the email to Politico.
No more graphic illustration that she has no core, no beliefs, just is after contributions and power.
There is no there, there.


I live in Florida, so am more familiar with her GOP-loving ways. Pisses me off when we are told oh, elect Progressives locally and they will move on up. They will not get past Debbie.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
53. yeah, someone finally clued her in that it's not 1996, and "lets lock up drug users" doesnt play as
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 07:22 PM
Aug 2015

well as it used to.

Still, she's one of a handful of house Dems to consistently vote against getting the Feds out of meddling in state marijuana laws, and I don't see any indication that she's changed on that position.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/06/03/house-votes-to-ban-some-pot-law-enforcement-cut-dea-budget

As a resident of a state that has voted to legalize recreational marijuana, I don't appreciate Debbie Wasserman Schultz in Florida trying to tell Oregon what we can or cannot do here.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
55. How Israel Became A Medical Marijuana Powerhouse
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 07:34 PM
Aug 2015
Mimi Peleg’s job is to teach people how to use pot—how long to inhale smoke or vapor, how to administer sublingual drops, or how to ration out a pot cookie.

Peleg directs large-scale cannabis training for the Israeli government’s state-supported, discreet, successful and expanding medical cannabis distribution center, MECHKAR. MECHKAR began as a tiny program serving about 1,800 people from 2008-2009. Today, supplied by eight farms located all over the country, the program distributes cannabis to 12,000 patients.

While medical marijuana has been approved in 18 U.S. states, and recreational use in two, U.S. federal law still criminalizes the drug, and its future remains uncertain. In Israel, however, the $40-million-per-year medical-marijuana industry is thriving. And, while research efforts have been continually hindered in the states by the National Institute on Drug Abuse and the DEA, the Israeli government is funding and supporting breakthrough research on the many healing potentials of the cannabis plant.

http://nocamels.com/2014/01/how-israel-became-a-medical-marijuana-powerhouse/




Cannabis Heals Bone Fractures, Makes New Bones Even Stronger


Cannabis, or marijuana, was used as a go-to medical remedy by societies around the world for centuries. But the therapeutic use of marijuana was banned in most countries in the 1930s and ’40s due to a growing awareness of the dangers of addiction. The significant medical benefits of marijuana in alleviating symptoms of such diseases as Parkinson’s, cancer, and multiple sclerosis have only recently been reinvestigated.

A new study by Tel Aviv and Hebrew University researchers explores another promising new medical application for marijuana. According to the research, the administration of the non-psychotropic component cannabinoid cannabidiol (CBD) significantly helps heal bone fractures, possibly even preventing them in the future.

The study, conducted on rats with mid-femoral fractures, a serious fracture in the thigh bone, found that CBD — even when isolated from tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the major psychoactive component of cannabis — markedly enhanced the healing process of the bone fractures after just eight weeks.


Undeniable clinical potential

In earlier research, the same research team discovered that cannabinoid receptors within our bodies stimulated bone formation and inhibited bone loss. This paves the way for the future use of cannabinoid drugs to combat osteoporosis and other bone-related diseases.

“The clinical potential of cannabinoid-related compounds is simply undeniable at this point,” said Dr. Yankel Gabet of TAU’s Bone Research Laboratory. “While there is still a lot of work to be done to develop appropriate therapies, it is clear that it is possible to detach a clinical therapy objective from the psychoactivity of cannabis. CBD, the principal agent in our study, is primarily anti-inflammatory and has no psychoactivity,” meaning they do not results in alterations in perception, mood, or consciousness.

http://nocamels.com/2015/07/cannabis-heals-bone-fractures-study/

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
56. I always think it's funny when Xtian Fundies get all goopy for Israel.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 07:37 PM
Aug 2015

Yeah, Israel: pro-choice, where Ru-486 is easily available, pro LGBT equality, cutting edge tech and science and research...

merrily

(45,251 posts)
104. Israel is seen as necessary for the Second Coming.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 07:42 AM
Aug 2015

After the Second Coming, everyone, including Jews, who has not accepted Jesus as the Son of God and his or her personal savior, will begin to burn in hell for all eternity because...mericiful, but just God. Until then, though, true believer Christians are resolutely on the side of Israel.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
144. Yeah, I understand the comic book, sunday school "reasoning", so to speak.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:10 PM
Aug 2015

It's just pretty funny given the reality.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
146. Well, no one ever said that the religious right doesn't have a great sense of humor about
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:14 PM
Aug 2015

such things.

Oh, wait....

They were even trying to breed a certain type of cow that went extinct long ago because the Bible referred to its ashes in connection with the Second Coming.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
85. Nope, it's legit.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 12:06 AM
Aug 2015
https://www.whitehouse.gov/

Go there and click on "Participate" up top. Click on "We the People Petitions". That takes you to the petitions page.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions
From there you can click on "Popular".
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions/popular/0/2/0/
Scroll down and there it is.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-debbie-wasserman-schulz-effective-immediately-chairwoman-dnc-democratic-national-committee

If you google https://www.whitehouse.gov/ you'll see this.

The White House | whitehouse.gov
https://www.whitehouse.gov/
White House
Official White House site presents issue positions, news, Cabinet, appointments, offices and major speeches. Includes biography, video tour and photo essays.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhiteHouse.gov

WhiteHouse.gov is the official website of the White House and is owned by the United States government. Launched in October 1994,[3] it contains general American history information, as well as current news pertaining to the President, press briefings, proclamations, executive orders, and any speeches the president has made on the radio.

The website is the responsibility of the incumbent administration. As a result the site is completely redesigned for each new president, and the site's structure and URLs are often inconsistent from one administration to the next.

Content of website is in the public domain or licensed under Creative Commons Attribution license.[4]
 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
72. It simple really
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 09:15 PM
Aug 2015

If you are Bernie Sanders you call her out. You say " She doesn't act like a democrat at all, in fact she acts, and sides with GOP interests." then cite all the examples in this article. If you put that kind of heat on her she will crumble.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
78. I do not like her.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 10:18 PM
Aug 2015

When she said it didn't matter who won the recall in WI, Walker or the Dem.(Barrett), that did it for me.

svpadgham

(670 posts)
81. Come to think of it
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 11:12 PM
Aug 2015

I've never seen an attack on DWS by a Republican, and as head of the DNC she would seem to be a pretty big target. Every other Democrat and even family members they'll build a time machine to go after them, but not ol' Deb.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
93. Move-on states it very clearly. Maybe Bernie needs to demand her resignation
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:29 AM
Aug 2015

"Bring back Howard Dean.

That's why I signed a petition to Debbie Wasserman Schultz, DNC Chair, which says:

"As a result of a complete, and total lack of coordinated messaging and horrific dissemination of available resources all ending in the absolute failure of her mission, Debbie Wasserman Schultz must resign or be removed as DNC Chair. "

Will you sign the petition too? Click here to add your name:

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/remove-debbie-wasserman?source=s.fwd&r_by=1779938 "

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
94. Signed and I agree
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:58 AM
Aug 2015

Wasserman is a shill for Israel. She is incompetent as DNC chsir and should have been fired after the 3014 debacle.

PBass

(1,537 posts)
95. Usually, when you fail spectacularly at your job, you are replaced.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 05:31 AM
Aug 2015

Why is Debbie Wasserman-Schultz still DNC chair after all this time? Dems have been getting their clocks cleaned under her watch.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
148. It is called "failing upwards",
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 05:17 PM
Aug 2015

and it happens all the time in Politics and the Corporate World.

markpkessinger

(8,912 posts)
98. What she did was unconscionable . . . .
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 06:56 AM
Aug 2015

. . . I mean, I get that opinions on the Iran deal are probably mixed among her constituents. And if she feels she must therefore vote against the deal, so be it. INdeed, if she feels strongly opposed to the deal, she is free, as a member of Congress, to make use of any tactic or procedure available to her under the rules of the House to oppose it. But to effectively privelege her own wishes or those of her own constituency, in her capacity as chair of the DNC, is an abuse her chairmanship. The position of DNC chair should not be seen as some kind of legislative leg up that allows one member of Congress who happens also to hold that position to wield that much influence over what the wider party chooses to endorse or not to endorse.

Sancho

(9,205 posts)
107. Before removing DWS (and I don't say she should stay), who would you put in her place?
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:30 AM
Aug 2015

Someone that Obama approves of and the DNC delegates would vote for? It looks like 2-3 years is typical, so DWS is due to move out anyway.

Joe Biden?

The DNC Chair always has it's controversy, but there needs to be a better person or simply removing DWS would not help.

http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/democratic-committee-chairs.html

Democratic National Committee Chairs Since 1944
See a complete list below of Democratic National Committee Chairs since 1944.


Chairman and (state)—Democratic Term
Robert E. Hannegan (Mo.) 1944–1947
J. Howard McGrath (R.I.) 1947–1949
William M. Boyle, Jr. (Mo.) 1949–1951
Frank E. McKinney (Ind.) 1951–1952
Stephen A. Mitchell (Ill.) 1952–1954
Paul M. Butler (Ind.) 1955–1960
Henry M. Jackson (Wash.) 1960–1961
John M. Bailey (Conn.) 1961–1968
Lawrence F. O'Brien (Mass.) 1968–1969
Fred R. Harris (Okla.) 1969–1970
Lawrence F. O'Brien (Mass.) 1970–1972
Jean Westwood (Utah) 1972
Robert S. Strauss (Tex.) 1972–1977
Kenneth M. Curtis (Maine) 1977
John C. White (Tex.) 1977–1981
Charles T. Manatt (Calif.) 1981–1985
Paul G. Kirk Jr. (Mass.) 1985–1989
Ronald H. Brown (D.C.) 1989–1993
David Wilhelm (Ill.) 1993–1994
Christopher J. Dodd (Conn.) 1995–1996
Steven Grossman (Mass.) 1996–1999
Joe Andrew (Ind.) 1999–2001
Terry McAuliffe (Va.) 2001–2005
Howard Dean (Vt.) 2005–2009
Tim Kaine (Va.) 2009–2011
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fla.) 2011–

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
109. Is there a worse person?
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:42 AM
Aug 2015

I think you could choose a replacement by lottery and get a better person.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
108. WTH? 4 Debates???? 4?? Wasn't it 6 before? As if 6 weren't already too few, now
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:40 AM
Aug 2015

O'Malley is saying it's been chopped down to 4??????

DWS must go. She is too blatant in her partisan corruption.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
125. 4 before Iowa.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 11:45 AM
Aug 2015

5 & 6 are scheduled for "February/March". Since Iowa is Feb 1, there's no time for #5 before Iowa.

NH is about a week later. It will be very, very, very, very difficult to get #5 in that week.

Then NV on Feb 20th. It's possible to squeeze #5 in there, but it will be hard.

Then on the 27th is SC. Again, only a week so it'll be hard to get it in.

Super Tuesday is March 1st. No way in hell to get a debate in between SC and then.

And it's unusual for the candidate to not be decided by Super Tuesday, so it's unlikely that any debates will actually be held after that.

So yes, 4 debates, with two that will be canceled.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
110. She needs to go,
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 09:09 AM
Aug 2015

and go now!!! Before she totally blows this election too. Remember 2014? It was like a room full of crickets. Nothing!! Nada!!!

She stands for no democratic values and policies. She represents no one in the democratic party. It's time for her find her next job.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
111. Does DWS really work for the republicans?
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 09:50 AM
Aug 2015

Exclusive: Allison Tant was lobbyist for firm that purged African-Americans from
voter rolls before, during and after 2000 recount.

http://thepoliticalhurricane.com/2012/12/19/breaking-news-allison-tant-was-lobbyist-for-firm-that-purged-african-americans-from-voter-rolls-in-2000/

And who put Ms. Tant as head of the Florida Dem. Party? Why good old DWS.

Raster

(21,010 posts)
114. And not just African-Americans.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:39 AM
Aug 2015

Primarily two types of persons of Hispanic heritage in South Florida: (1) those of Cuban descent, whom most of which are heavily GOP-leaning and voting; and (2) those of other Hispanic heritage: Puerto Ricans, Mexican, etc., those whom most definitely tend to vote Democrat. Tant and her purges specifically targeted the non-Cuban Hispanics, selectively purging those areas of Hispanic South Florida with a Democratic lean. Over and over again. This was selective electoral dirty trick NUMBER ONE, removing legal, qualified voters from the voting roles because they probably would NOT have voted for Cheney*/Bush*.
Botany!

Botany

(77,323 posts)
118. But what about Hillary's emails?
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:51 AM
Aug 2015

DWS knows of Tant's background and what she did in 2000 and still helped to
make her chair of the FDP.

Please tell me how and why Tant is The Honorable Allison Tant, Chairwoman of
the Florida Democratic Party?

http://www.floridadems.org/our-party/party-staff

Raster

(21,010 posts)
120. Why, don't you know a good fixer is hard to find?
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:55 AM
Aug 2015

Kabuki Theater = American politics.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
121. We have more Ds then Rs in this country and the future demographics for the Rs is just .....
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:59 AM
Aug 2015

..... so they have to:

put plants into the other side

rig elections and the vote

control the media

gerrymander districts

I have always thought that in 2004 in both Kerry's campaign and the ODP we had moles.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
119. Her conservative stance AGAINST marijuana legalization should disqualify her from
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:55 AM
Aug 2015

holding any public office!

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
122. She needs to be primaried pronto!
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 11:31 AM
Aug 2015

Complete and utter sell out! This is beyond third way politics: this is selling out her constituents and the American people. I can't believe she's my rep!

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
124. You'll get right on that?
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 11:44 AM
Aug 2015

You've got a suitably progressive candidate in mind and will be willing to provide the financial support that candidate will need to knock off an incumbent and national Party Chair?

Or is that someone else's job?

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
140. Seeing as how the Dems are P.O.'ed at DWS
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 02:26 PM
Aug 2015

I might not have to do anything. That along with the anti-gerrymandering ruling from the Florida Supreme Court makes her vulnerable. I know you HRC people love third way politicians (despite your protest that you think that DWS is a progressive) but when someone goes against something the president busted ass for, don't expect her fellow Dems to give her a pass.

Blue_Adept

(6,499 posts)
126. I'm afraid of clowns. I'm afraid of Debbie.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 11:49 AM
Aug 2015

Well, no, not really. I just find this kind of imagery childish and more representative of "the other side" of the aisle.

But primary season brings out the awful in so many of us across the board. Wear those passions proudly, my friends.

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Jokerman

(3,559 posts)
128. Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 11:58 AM
Aug 2015

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Time To REMOVE Debbie Wasserman Schultz As DNC Chair? WAY PAST TIME!
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That photograph is way over the top and offensive. It doesn't appear in any of the links in the OP and is highly inappropriate.

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