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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:55 PM Sep 2015

Cops Kill Surrendering Man with Hands in the Air



Gilbert Flores Shooting by Bexar County Deputies Near San Antonio Sparks Outcry. ANTONIO - KSAT12 News has obtained exclusive cellphone video capturing a fatal Bexar County sheriff's deputy-involved shooting Friday in the 24400 block of Walnut Pass.

KSAT12 has made the editorial decision to freeze the video right before the shooting occurs that leads to the death of the suspect.
The video above shows the moments leading up to the fatal shots and stops just before the shots were fired. The sound from the recording continues over the freeze frame.

The video was obtained from Michael Thomas, who witnessed the shooting and contacted KSAT12.

*The video shows the shirtless suspect running through the front yard of the home.

"I was watching and wondering, what was going on, but I couldn't figure it out. I was like, with the things going on in the world, like different type of shootings with cops and different things like that, so I was like, 'Well, maybe I can catch something with my camera,'" Thomas said.

The video shows the deputies follow the man to the edge of the driveway.

"He kind of just put his hands in the air. After he put his hands in the air, they shot him," Thomas said.

The man was shot twice and died a short time afterward, the sheriff's officials said."

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libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
1. That will be an interesting Police Report. Unfortunately, too often a
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:07 PM
Sep 2015

"full investigation" means dragging it out until no one cares or forgets, then cops are back and business as usual.

There must be civilian oversight, other than the random cell phone captures.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
3. I've watched this several times
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:24 PM
Sep 2015

There has to be a logical explanation for shooting a man that has his hands in the air. If this man was unarmed and surrendering then this is a flat out execution. I don't get it.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
4. Well, he might have said a curse word, or looked the officer in the eye,
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:29 PM
Sep 2015

or...you know, all those death penalty kind of things. Couldn't tell the race of the victim, one just supposes he was black, but maybe not. I'm all for training them for other occupations, rather than cushy time outs at home, rinse and repeat.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
5. Training for other occupations I agree
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:50 PM
Sep 2015

Floor scrubbers at a max security prison for life. This guy was perfectly still at the time they shot him until his his hands go up.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
11. Oh yes, but even though the above is appropriate, I'd settle just for a mere
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:36 PM
Sep 2015

night custodian at some factory. Minimal interaction with the public. But, he'll be back out there soon, and we'll never hear another word about it. Old News.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
12. True but we have to start holding cops like this accountable
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:42 PM
Sep 2015

If we just let them skate with a demotion or losing their job then nothing will ever change.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
6. I saw the guy who shot the video on CNN
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:07 PM
Sep 2015

The man had a knife, had just attacked his wife and infant. The video guy said he only saw one hand up. The other hand held a knife.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
7. Okay if so
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:15 PM
Sep 2015

Unless he's a ninja warrior knife throwing expert I still don't see a reason to kill him. He wasn't close enough to police to pose a threat. I remember when suspects were arrested and not shot on the spot.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
8. Yeah...I can't see the area clearly in the video--so I don't know what happened.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:23 PM
Sep 2015

I just saw the CNN interview. I do know that dangerous people brandishing knives can reach you quicker than you think they can.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
13. Watching the actions of the police...one guy seemed not to be "in" the moment
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:46 PM
Sep 2015

so to speak. It is sobering...and disturbing. The deceased went over to the cop car two or three times...helmet and dash cams...mandatory.

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