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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOK. I found it. The site where donations to support Kim Davis are being solicited.
Last edited Fri Sep 4, 2015, 07:35 PM - Edit history (1)
Here's the link (to Samaritan's Purse) which is connected up with Franklin Graham.
You knew the fundies would delight in raising money for this bigot. If you click on the guy's page
at the top right, it takes you to the info of how much has been raised and who donated. It says the money
is being raised for a non-profit--Samaritan's Purse--so it's possible that any donations are tax deductible!
Here's the fb post on the Support Kim Davis fb page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kim-Davis-Support-Page/1624985301074122?fref=nf
https://www.firstgiving.com/Page/3129805/Donation
The person who was kind enough to create the page is another facebooker, Mr. Ronald Hoeferkamp, if you have any questions please direct them to him. https://www.facebook.com/rhoeferkamp?fref=ufi
To be clear, I'm not in any way a representative of Kim Davis and don't know her at all, and I just met Ronald, but I think we can do something good in supporting her.
Mrs. Davis is probably going to lose her job, and she's going to likely be personally sued and fined by the Supreme Court and the ACLU or whomever. So, any help for her will be welcome.
On edit: Sorry people misunderstood this post. I would NEVER do anything to encourage donations to support this woman. There have been a lot of posts about how she won't be able to benefit from a Gofundme page (due to her incarceration for contempt of court) but also speculation that the fundies would find a way to raise funds for her. Well, this is at least one way it's being done,
and so far only $40. has been raised out of a $10,000. goal.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I like how their one twitter feed has almost 1.5 million followers.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Maybe someone should flashmob/bomb the site. Not a suggestion or an encouragement, mind you, just a bit of woolgathering...:
Warpy
(111,339 posts)to manage to do a little monkeywrenching. At least I sincerely hope so.
Might have known that pious fraud Franklin Graham was behind this.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)And this god crap is way over the top. They just lust for hatred and persecution. We've seen it since day one in the US. Different times, different people, different causes, but the SOS, often under the cloak of the bible, cross and various flags.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)attention to the fundraising efforts. I kind of agree with that even though I voted not to hide.
mnhtnbb
(31,404 posts)I am not surprised to see Franklin Graham involved in this. Also, if anyone claims
money is not being raised for her, call it out.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)On Fri Sep 4, 2015, 02:53 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
OK. I found it. The site where donations to support Kim Davis are being solicited.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027140472
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Why in the hell advertise this here? If it's so hard to find... Leave it that way. Don't use DU to promote this crap.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:09 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: To be clear I am voting to hide this thread . I think Kim Davis should have been removed -demoted ,replaced,long before now.But thats just an opinion. On the matter of solicitation, the poster is asking for financial support for person who's actions are in direct violation of the law and further on a state level ,derectliction of duties ,another violation of both law and trust.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Why not respond to the OP and give them a chance to react to your opinion. Maybe they hadn't considered that. I agree in general with alerter but to hide without any warning seems unfair in this case.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nothing here worth a hide, what a waste of my time.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Gosh. Does the alerter think that DUers are going to do a lot of donating to the site.
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Warpy
(111,339 posts)and have posted the same sentiment on a lot of threads I've voted to keep. Some things need to be answered in a post.
I doubt there's much danger of DU suddenly giving thousands to that web site.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)It would be clearer that you personally are not soliciting donations for Kim Davis. I think that is where a lot of alerts come from - people don't realize that other sources are being quoted if the quotes are simply in the body of the message.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)csziggy
(34,137 posts)Not all here are willing to make an effort to carefully read a message to determine intent.
It is harder to be clear about intent and about what is quoted when it all runs together. That is why the tools to set off an excerpt and to indent a blockquote are available, to help make it clearer and easier for lazy readers.
mnhtnbb
(31,404 posts)You'd think people might check my bonafides as a DU'er before alerting. Not only have I been
around a long time, quite a few people know that both my sons are gay. There is no
way in hell I'd be raising donations for this woman.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)Or are out to get some posters.
When I'm tired, I'm a lazy reader and the lack of some way that sets off a quote or an article makes it harder to sort out the poster's comments from the material being quoted. The first impression I got of your OP was that it was too much information about the fundraising for Kim Davis. Then I realized it was just informational and not intended as support.
And it gives fewer opportunities for misunderstanding and fewer excuses for alerting.
I'm happy your sons' rights are finally becoming more equalized. Let the progress continue!
shenmue
(38,506 posts)how the court and things really work.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)We will continue to reel from it for years. Even though Bush is no longer president, his bad precedents linger in the system. Cutting funding, hurting teachers - it all bounces back on the students.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)the damn fool will linger on for several decades at least. And as for Jeb Bush, we need to be rid of the damn Bush dynasty and good riddance to them.
The way he hated teachers and the public system, left scars all over the place.
It is going to take a long time to revive the schools, but we can do it.
mnhtnbb
(31,404 posts)Yikes. I've been all over the Kim Davis story and had plenty of criticism yesterday
for criticizing her fashion choice when I posted her perp walk. I've made posts
indicating what a hypocrite she is for not following the tenets of her particular
sect (which, it turns out, she's even a more fundy Pentecostal believing in
speaking of tongues sect) which require obedience to government (according
to numerous references in the Bible).
So, thanks to the jury members who voted to leave it alone. There have been lots of posts
about how she won't be able to benefit from a gofundme account, but we all speculated
that the fundies supporting her would find another way. Well, they did. Franklin Graham--Billy
Graham's nasty son--is doing the fundraising for her on his Samaritan's Purse site. And it's right
here in North Carolina where I live. I think it's important for people to know just who is supporting
this woman.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,404 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,404 posts)and they've raised all of $140. AND changed the goal to $2500. from $10,000. But, I did a little clicking
on their home page and this outfit has a "Persecuted Christians--USA" donation page!
http://www.samaritanspurse.org/donation-items/persecuted-christians-usa/
What really burns me up is this is a 501c3 organization--tax deductible donations--so that these buffoons can
fight following the law AND get a tax deduction for doing it. How the hell does the IRS allow this?
Any tax attorneys or accountants out there have an answer?
I'm really tempted to forward this info to Americans United for Separation of Church and State and see if they have an answer.
On edit: OK, I just e-mailed Americans United and sent them the links and posed the question whether donations
to support this woman--and their "Persecuted Christians-USA" --can really be considered tax deductible when their
purpose is to fight the US enforcing its laws and NOT charitable activities.