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damnedifIknow

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Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:46 PM Sep 2015

The Ivy League, Mental Illness, and the Meaning of Life

The former Yale English professor William Deresiewicz stirred up quite a storm earlier this month with his New Republic essay “Don’t Send Your Kid to the Ivy League”—a damning critique of the nation’s most revered and wealthy educational institutions, and the flawed meritocracy they represent. He takes these arguments even further in his upcoming book, Excellent Sheep: The Miseducation of the American Elite and the Way to a Meaningful Life.

Deresiewicz, who is also the author of A Jane Austen Education: How Six Novels Taught Me About Love, Friendship and the Things That Really Matter, spoke to me on the phone from his home in Portland, Oregon.

How does the phrase “excellent sheep” describe the typical student at an elite college today?

The most interesting thing about that phrase is that I didn’t write it myself. It came out of the mouth of a student of mine, and just seemed perfect. They’re “excellent” because they have fulfilled all the requirements for getting into an elite college, but it’s very narrow excellence. These are kids who will perform to the specifications you define, and they will do that without particularly thinking about why they’re doing it. They just know that they will jump the next hoop.

You’ve observed that Ivy League students have an internal struggle with both “grandiosity and depression.” Can you explain this further?

Alice Miller wrote about this 30 plus years ago in the classic The Drama of the Gifted Child, but I had to experience it to see it for myself. The grandiosity is that sense of “you’re the greatest, you’re the best, you’re the brightest.” This kind of praise and reinforcement all the time makes students feel they’re the greatest kid in the world. And I would say that this is even worse than when I was a kid. Now there’s a whole culture of parenting around this positive reinforcement.

These kids were always the best of their class, and their teachers were always praising them, inflating their ego. But it’s a false self-esteem. It’s not real self-possession, where you are measuring yourself against your own internal standards and having a sense that you’re working towards something. It’s totally conditional, and constantly has to be pumped up by the next grade, the next A, or gold star. "

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/08/qa-the-miseducation-of-our-college-elite/377524/

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The Ivy League, Mental Illness, and the Meaning of Life (Original Post) damnedifIknow Sep 2015 OP
I was pressured to go to an Ivy League college flamingdem Sep 2015 #1
Didn't get into one did you? woolldog Sep 2015 #2

flamingdem

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1. I was pressured to go to an Ivy League college
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:46 AM
Sep 2015

but I chose a progressive college with no grades.

This article brings me a slight sense of glee.

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