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Marzupialis

(398 posts)
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:11 PM May 2012

Rachel Maddow defends her long-time friend Booker

Maddow gave Booker 12 minutes to try to save his political career last night. At one point Maddow even slammed liberals for jumping in on the "feeding frenzy" against Booker:

When off-message happens on the Democratic side, there`s no mitigating factor that can distract from the feeding frenzy. Democrats join right in with the attack. Liberals join right in. The Beltway media joins in with the attack in way that they can almost not control.

The Republicans not only attack but they caricature this Democrat in this case into a helpless victim who they supposedly want to rescue from being silenced since he obviously isn`t allowed to speak for himself.

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Maddow is being criticized by liberal media critic Bob Somerby:

"Daily Howler (5-22-12): Rachel Maddow and Cory Booker have been friends ever since they went to Stanford together. When Booker appears on her show in better times, Maddow often mentions this fact."[

Last night, she didn’t do so. But she staged a truly gruesome cable segment in defense of her horrible, scam-heavy friend./b]


Maddow mentioned nothing about her good friend's ties to Wall Street big-shots.
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Rachel Maddow defends her long-time friend Booker (Original Post) Marzupialis May 2012 OP
"A Friend in Need Is a Friend Indeed." I could tell she was a bit uncomfortable but I'm giving her monmouth May 2012 #1
thanks monmouth CatWoman May 2012 #2
yep. I hold nothing against her for that Whisp May 2012 #7
Great journalism advice. Marzupialis May 2012 #10
Take my advice and don't. All of mine seem to bitter unhappy people who don't like journalism much. white_wolf May 2012 #20
But should we hope all politicians have journalists on call to treat them as friends on TV Bluenorthwest May 2012 #16
Have you seen David Gregory on Sunday mornings? n/t monmouth May 2012 #27
I'm surprised Rachel Maddow is using the "off message" line. enough May 2012 #3
I don't ascribe any nefarious intent to it. Arkana May 2012 #21
Maybe Bob Somerby should have mentioned that he's been jealous of Rachel's success rocktivity May 2012 #4
Yea, well Confusious May 2012 #6
What Rachel did last night was good friendship, but bad journalism scheming daemons May 2012 #5
Im supposed to be upset with Rachel for giving a long time friend a chance at redemption? abelenkpe May 2012 #8
I love Rachel Maddow but she's not perfect aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #9
So a Repuke using the same straw man bullshit argument is no good. But it's OK when Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #11
Exactly! His "aw, shucks" defense just doesn't ring true. CTyankee May 2012 #25
Rachel's great, but she really should have interrogated him more harshly, like she bullwinkle428 May 2012 #12
She should have recused herself due to her personal ties to him Bluenorthwest May 2012 #13
Maddow is peddling bullshit here. The right wasn't attacking Booker, they are using him as an attack TheKentuckian May 2012 #14
Somerby is not a liberal One of the 99 May 2012 #15
They both did us all a favor actually TomClash May 2012 #17
Rachel and Booker were trying to transfer the outrage over his comments to the GOP. AtomicKitten May 2012 #18
reality check DemocracyInaction May 2012 #19
Well....not gonna throw her under the bus for this Horse with no Name May 2012 #22
jeepers. Warren Stupidity May 2012 #23
I love Rachel procon May 2012 #24
I was disappointed with the interview... Spazito May 2012 #26

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
1. "A Friend in Need Is a Friend Indeed." I could tell she was a bit uncomfortable but I'm giving her
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:16 PM
May 2012

a pass on this. She had him on to tell his part and that is a good friend. We don't know their discussion off-camera. She may have well given him either hell or some good advice. That's what true friends do. We should all hope at least one of our friends is a Rachel..

 

Marzupialis

(398 posts)
10. Great journalism advice.
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:25 PM
May 2012

Great advice. Be tough and inquisitive except in those cases where you're interviewing a friend. I believe you should become a journalism professor.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
20. Take my advice and don't. All of mine seem to bitter unhappy people who don't like journalism much.
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:15 PM
May 2012

I'm not quite sure why that is, I may just have bad luck with professors.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
16. But should we hope all politicians have journalists on call to treat them as friends on TV
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:46 PM
May 2012

rather than as journalists? Isn't that one of the basic complaints regarding FoxNews, that they serve the people they interview? Because they are friends?
I'm of the mind that if it is not good for others to practice crony journalism, if we do not wish that to be the one way things are done, then we need to always treat it as what it is, Public Relations, not reporting.
Unless it is always ok, it is never ok to play favorites.

enough

(13,259 posts)
3. I'm surprised Rachel Maddow is using the "off message" line.
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:18 PM
May 2012

Booker was not "off message," he was deliberately undermining the central focus of the campaign.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
21. I don't ascribe any nefarious intent to it.
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:15 PM
May 2012

I think Booker said what he believes, and what he believes is reprehensible.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
4. Maybe Bob Somerby should have mentioned that he's been jealous of Rachel's success
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:19 PM
May 2012

almost from day one.


rocktivity

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
6. Yea, well
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:24 PM
May 2012

Defending booker really doesn't go over well in my book, Somerby aside.

As far as his statements, I would never vote for him for anything now, not even dog catcher. He defended a bunch of vampiric ghouls.

He's persona non grata, and people who defend him have it rub off on them.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
5. What Rachel did last night was good friendship, but bad journalism
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:20 PM
May 2012

Cory Iscariot Booker stabbed the President in the back. It wasn't a "slip of the tongue". He went out of his way to attack the Obama team for running Bain ads.

He said the Bain ads were equivalent to Rev. Wright ads on the other side. Said it disgusted him.


He was wrong on so many levels... but the main way he was wrong is he let himself become a pawn of the Romney campaign for the next five months.

There will be ad after ad featuring Cory's words AGAINST the President.



Rachel... as a journalist.. should have pressed him more... on the fact that he received half a million dollars from Bain, on the fact that he kneecapped the President on MTP. She didn't, because he's her friend.


She tried to rescue him. That's bad journalism.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
8. Im supposed to be upset with Rachel for giving a long time friend a chance at redemption?
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:25 PM
May 2012

Or is this post to remind me to be upset with Booker? Or to erode my trust in media (ha ha don't worry that's long gone)

Sorry I suffer from outrage fatigue and just don't give a shit. I like Rachel.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
9. I love Rachel Maddow but she's not perfect
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:25 PM
May 2012

There should be no figures, however great, immune from criticism when called for, even including the President. I thought Maddow's interview was underwhelming and a waste of time. However, I'll continue watching her of course because next to Amy Goodman she's the best we've got.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
11. So a Repuke using the same straw man bullshit argument is no good. But it's OK when
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:30 PM
May 2012

this guy does it? It seems to me he went out of his way to toss Wall Street's collective salad with his clueless comments. Not only that. Every time I've seen this guy he's is extremely measured with his words. His whole "let's not be disagreeable" shtick is part of the reason he's invited on these talk shows. The word nauseating and conflating Repube racism with well deserved criticism of vulture capitalism was deliberate on his part. He is not a stupid man.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
25. Exactly! His "aw, shucks" defense just doesn't ring true.
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:46 PM
May 2012

He knew what he was doing on MTP. I don't think he was smart enough, tho, to figure out what a backlash he would bring upon himself. I think he thought he was going to get away with this and be praised as some kind of "independent minded Democrat," instead of a vile traitor out after his own glory and grubbing for Wall St. money.

He's not in a very good place right now, is he?

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
12. Rachel's great, but she really should have interrogated him more harshly, like she
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:34 PM
May 2012

did with Anthony Weiner, right after "penis-gate"...ahem...arose.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. She should have recused herself due to her personal ties to him
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:38 PM
May 2012

and deferred to an impartial person who would have pressed him and not gone on the attack for him. Crony journalism is not pretty even when it involves people we usually like. Palin used to say she only talked to Hannity, 'cause he liked her. Well, this is the same thing.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
14. Maddow is peddling bullshit here. The right wasn't attacking Booker, they are using him as an attack
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:42 PM
May 2012

If Democrats don't join that attack then they must surrender to it.

Her statement lacks integrity even if it is motivated by deep personal loyalty because it is a betrayal of her public trust and is completely dishonest.

One of the 99

(2,280 posts)
15. Somerby is not a liberal
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:44 PM
May 2012

He's been attacking liberals in the media, especially Maddow, for years now while giving FAUX News a pass.

TomClash

(11,344 posts)
17. They both did us all a favor actually
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:48 PM
May 2012

They reminded us that, at the end of the day, neither one really challenges the privileged and their political class that holds power in this country.

Cory Booker got the chance to try to redeem himself and Rachel Maddow got the big scoop, in exchange for throwing him a few softballs.

Let's just call it the old boys and girls school, contemporary version, with a little color and caviar. The more things change, the more they stay the same.





 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
18. Rachel and Booker were trying to transfer the outrage over his comments to the GOP.
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:57 PM
May 2012

We already knew exactly what the GOP would do with Booker's comments. However, the fact that Booker is a Stanford school chum of Rachel's plus Booker taking $500K+ from Bain makes their effort to transfer the outrage off Booker to the GOP seem disingenuous. My first real disappointment with Rachel.

DemocracyInaction

(2,506 posts)
19. reality check
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:11 PM
May 2012

95% of the people in this country wouldn't know Booker if they fell over him nor listen to MTP. This is a tempest in our political junkie teapot. BUT they do understand the Bain ads......nice try GOP, but killing off people's jobs is sticking to Mitt like tar....

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
22. Well....not gonna throw her under the bus for this
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:27 PM
May 2012

although it does make me a little disappointed.

However....the OP of this Rachel hitpiece isn't a veritable source of truth...so probably going to watch it myself to see if there is anything taken out of context--and somehow, I imagine there will be something that isn't what it seems.

These fucking pubs are trying to get a two-fer out of this one....Booker AND Maddow.

Sorry...not gonna take their word for it. Not gonna play.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
23. jeepers.
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:35 PM
May 2012

Booker was not under attack from the right, Booker joined the right attacking Obama and got slammed for being an idiot.

Seriously how the hell is going after Bain Capital the same as going after Rev Wright? How typical, the false equivalency leading to "we all need to stop and play nice". Off message? Just Off.

Seriously Rachel? That was not the 'left' (what fucking left?) joining in. That was the right stepping back while one of ours made an idiot out of himself.

procon

(15,805 posts)
24. I love Rachel
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:38 PM
May 2012

because she usually talks truths in the desert of American journalism, but she dropped the ball this time.

I was quite willing to cut her some slack in supporting someone she holds dear, and I see no conflict in giving Cory Booker an opportunity to explain himself. However, what was lacking was any sort of followup from Rachel... not even a basic journalistic inquiry of, "Dude, what were you thinking?"

If she felt so constrained by her friendship with Booker, then she should have taken a backseat and sat him down in front of a panel to respond to others who were willing to pose the critical questions she could not. I'm disappointed that she didn't handle this better because it left her audience with unanswered questions.

Spazito

(50,338 posts)
26. I was disappointed with the interview...
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:50 PM
May 2012

I really did think, even though they are good friends, Rachel would have been tougher with her questions than she was under the circumstances.

My disappointment doesn't in any way take away from my overall respect and I will certainly continue to watch her show, it is, imo, the best one to watch in order to understand some of the more convoluted aspects of more than a few issues. She has a way of breaking them down that clarifies them, makes them much more understandable.

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