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I saw 30 for 30: Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL? on netflix (Original Post) Denis 11 Sep 2015 OP
USFL was a good league. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #1
I used to love to go see the yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #7
Gotta watch that Gman Sep 2015 #2
Clip on youtube: beac Sep 2015 #3
I have liked all episodes of 30 for 30 I've seen. tammywammy Sep 2015 #4
I actually have to disagree Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #5
Trump signed Walker and gave the leage more credibility. Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #6
League was already doing well and had credibility. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #8
The USFL was doing well? Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #10
NFL has TV contract, owners make a profit if not a single ticket sold. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #11
Michigan Panthers MinM Sep 2015 #9
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
1. USFL was a good league.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 10:45 PM
Sep 2015

Fun to watch, many former and future NFL stars played. Steve Spurrier's first coaching job was Tampa Bay Bandits. They outdrew the Bucs then. Trump was primary reason league folded.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
2. Gotta watch that
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 10:54 PM
Sep 2015

The USFL was great football. While Trump killed the league off, I think most teams weren't on good financial ground anyway. Seems if it wasn't Trump, it would have folded anyway.

I'm sure there's details in the movie I'm not aware of. And it's a very long time ago.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
5. I actually have to disagree
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 12:14 AM
Sep 2015

I think trump helped to put it out there a bit and give it more legitimacy. He signed a few big players and strengthened the USFL. It was already doomed to fail. I don't think a single person could have saved the USFL, and I don't think a single person could have destoryed it. It just wasn't polished enough to compete with the NFL, and the NFL did not need more expansion teams, so there was no room for the USFL.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
6. Trump signed Walker and gave the leage more credibility.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 12:55 AM
Sep 2015

There is no way the USFL was going to merge with the NFL. The NFL did not need to merge with the USFL because they were not a threat.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. League was already doing well and had credibility.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 05:03 AM
Sep 2015

Doug Williams and Steve Young among others were playing in the league. Trump just wanted to buy himself a championship team.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
10. The USFL was doing well?
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 11:15 AM
Sep 2015

The LA Express owner (Young's team) went bankrupt and could not find a buyer for his team. Has that happened in the last 40 years in the NFL?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. NFL has TV contract, owners make a profit if not a single ticket sold.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 11:38 AM
Sep 2015

Plus, the NFL plays in stadiums generally paid for by public funding.
USFL had no large TV deal, and had to rent stadiums to play in.
The Tampa Bay Bandits did ok financially...no huge salaries, averaged about 40,000+/game, reasonable rent, and local TV deal. LA Express probably lacked one or more.
The big blow from which the league couldn't recover was suspending play while they sued the NFL under anti-trust laws. Legal expenses were high, they prevailed in the suit but only won $1 in damages, which automatically tripled to $3 under anti-trust law. $3, that's all they got.

MinM

(2,650 posts)
9. Michigan Panthers
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:04 AM
Sep 2015

The Michigan Panthers were great...


The only pro football championship in nearly 60 years for the State of Michigan.

Donald Trump ruined that model where you drafted local players and played in the spring and summer instead of going head-to-head with the NFL. Trump ruined that like he has everything he's touched.

At least we still have Courser & Gamrat.
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