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spanone

(135,831 posts)
Wed May 23, 2012, 08:47 AM May 2012

Colin Powell Throws Wet Blanket On Hannity's Obsession With Rev. Wright And Bill Ayers

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell tonight threw a wet blanket on Sean Hannity's longtime obsession with attacking President Obama over Reverend Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers.

During an interview with Powell on his Fox News show, Hannity said that he finds Obama to be "one of the most divisive figures in -- that I've witnessed in politics today."

Powell responded: "[T]hat's a term that's being used rather freely. I don't think he's that divisive an issue." Powell then asked, "What could have been more divisive than, when President Obama was inaugurated, for a number of Republicans, friends of mine, and a number of commentators to say, 'We're going to destroy him. We're going to destroy him'?"

Hannity replied: "I was one of his harshest critics. I wasn't out to destroy him." Hannity also asserted: "Well, I was critical about Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright." Powell responded: "I don't know Bill Ayers from the man in the moon. Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright are just passing things through [Obama's] life." Hannity then said that Obama spent "20 years" in Wright's church, to which Powell responded: "Well, so?"

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Colin Powell Throws Wet Blanket On Hannity's Obsession With Rev. Wright And Bill Ayers (Original Post) spanone May 2012 OP
Powell will endorse Obama in October - like he did last time. Pirate Smile May 2012 #1
I disagree with Powell's center-right politics (and his lies that led us into Iraq), but boxman15 May 2012 #61
I wouldn't want Powell's endorsement. I'd ask him to leave me out of it, if he supported me. nt Romulox May 2012 #2
And you ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #21
General Powell is a war criminal, but I guess all that is behind us. nm rhett o rick May 2012 #26
inspite of the fact that you have people disagreeing with you, BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #29
He is most famous as a shameless liar, who sent untold numbers of men and women to their deaths. Romulox May 2012 #30
Laughable ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #38
I know some republicans who voted for Obama because of Powell's endorsement. Solomon May 2012 #32
1+ ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #39
Politics is a filthy business Blecht May 2012 #54
No way, no how. harmonicon May 2012 #33
But plenty of ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #40
I doubt it would matter. harmonicon May 2012 #42
The base? No. It's the independents/middle-of-the-roaders we're after. Bake May 2012 #41
If he doesn't get the endorsement Proud Liberal Dem May 2012 #34
I've always been a bit skeptical that Powell would have been this unstoppable electoral juggernaut RZM May 2012 #43
An attack ad based on his fraudulent UN presentation would be devastating. nt Romulox May 2012 #47
Devastating to whom? 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #55
He might get my Republican Mom to vote for Obama. tridim May 2012 #53
"the semi-sane gop and gop-leaning independant circles" Harry Monroe May 2012 #59
No ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #60
I saw hannity squirm a bit SecurityManager May 2012 #3
Hannity has his Ayers-Wright sock and he is going to keep chewing on it. yellowcanine May 2012 #4
Let the Hamster choke on that sock then. . . DinahMoeHum May 2012 #7
Some care about Ayers-Wright. A Simple Game May 2012 #20
True enough. Fuck them, it's their loss and waste of time. . . DinahMoeHum May 2012 #28
LOL. Nice analogy... Cali_Democrat May 2012 #36
piss on Colin Powell KG May 2012 #5
hannity thought he was going to play the game with powell? madrchsod May 2012 #6
That's how people like Hannity need to be responded to... RevStPatrick May 2012 #8
I salute Colin Powell's response goclark May 2012 #14
+1 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #22
Hannity said that he finds Obama to be "one of the most divisive figures in -- that I've witnessed i warrior1 May 2012 #9
Fox News number one rule: joe1991 May 2012 #13
Of course being black is divisive silly. jimmil May 2012 #15
Not only because he's black, Jamaal510 May 2012 #62
They *really* hate him. Therefore, he is "divisive". Marr May 2012 #19
President Obama is divisive ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #23
Perfect response to most GOP blather Myrina May 2012 #10
Slightly off topic, but important: protect our future May 2012 #11
Who would Romney bring in with him? Well, for starters... Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #12
On NPR onlyadream May 2012 #16
And Powell thinks that Romney will close Guantanamo? nt avebury May 2012 #35
I think he was just being cautious onlyadream May 2012 #44
That's interesting because Powell reportedly told Obama that he was too left for his tastes. PragmaticLiberal May 2012 #46
Colin Powell damning Obama with faint praise... matmar May 2012 #17
I think it was Colbert who said raouldukelives May 2012 #18
Drop dead, Powell. Iggo May 2012 #24
Past associations? Like Hannity and Hal Turner? Rozlee May 2012 #25
Powell also said "so what if he is?" loyalsister May 2012 #27
I did a video on Powell's Meet the Press interview Oilwellian May 2012 #49
Well done loyalsister May 2012 #50
Thank you Oilwellian May 2012 #52
K & R Scurrilous May 2012 #31
I suppose SemperEadem May 2012 #37
Powell knows exactly what drives the obsession. eom BlueMTexpat May 2012 #45
Colin Powell has strong personal reasons... bvar22 May 2012 #48
He also tore Rmoney a new one when he said malaise May 2012 #51
powell knows romney has ZERO foreign policy experience. spanone May 2012 #58
Hannity can't imagine being around someone and NOT becoming them. Projecting his own weakness. patrice May 2012 #56
Go Colin. This is like the few misinformed on here that moaned that Obama only stood behind cr8tvlde May 2012 #57

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
61. I disagree with Powell's center-right politics (and his lies that led us into Iraq), but
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:34 AM
May 2012

this will be huge just like it was last time. Powell has a lot of sway with moderate voters. Those who are leaning toward Romney but not quite sure about him would probably vote for Obama following a Powell endorsement and embarrassing debates for R-Money.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
21. And you ...
Wed May 23, 2012, 10:43 AM
May 2012

would, arguably, be foolish.

General Powell carries a great deal of influence in the semi-sane gop and gop-leaning independant circles. In fact, if he had run in '08, he no doubt would have been the republican candidate, and possibly, the president today.

His endorsement cannot hurt a presidential campaign.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
29. inspite of the fact that you have people disagreeing with you,
Wed May 23, 2012, 11:54 AM
May 2012

you are absolutely correct.

It may not be a pretty fact, but it is a fact. Powell also impresses me as one of the rare ones who admits to egregious wrongdoing and is taking consistent action to try and right his errors. I have deep respect for that.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
30. He is most famous as a shameless liar, who sent untold numbers of men and women to their deaths.
Wed May 23, 2012, 12:26 PM
May 2012

Your claim about his viability as a Presidential candidate is laughable.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
38. Laughable ...
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:28 PM
May 2012

Only to those that weren't listening to independants, the semi-sane republicans and conservative Democrats.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
32. I know some republicans who voted for Obama because of Powell's endorsement.
Wed May 23, 2012, 12:37 PM
May 2012

They were sitting on the fence until Powell gave the endorsement.

I don't know any democrats who voted for McCain because Powell endorsed Obama.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
39. 1+ ...
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:29 PM
May 2012

I also know several independants and "reagan democrats" that voted for President Obama because of Powell's endorsement.

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
54. Politics is a filthy business
Wed May 23, 2012, 06:36 PM
May 2012

There's nothing filthier than embracing a man who lied our country into war.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
40. But plenty of ...
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:31 PM
May 2012

the semi-sane republicans, gop-leaning independants and "reagan"/conservative democrats would.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
42. I doubt it would matter.
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:36 PM
May 2012

The numbers just wouldn't add up if the base stayed home or voted for someone else.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
41. The base? No. It's the independents/middle-of-the-roaders we're after.
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:33 PM
May 2012

We'll never get the Puke base, which, thank God, is shrinking.

Bake

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
34. If he doesn't get the endorsement
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:10 PM
May 2012

it could kind of hurt President Obama given that he endorsed him in 2008 and him refusing to endorse would add to the "Obama can't reproduce 2008" meme that the corporate media has been working on. Based on the aforementioned interview, he doesn't seem to be gravitating to the current Republican *thinking* about President Obama, thankfully but I'm kind of curious about what he thinks R.MONEY might say/do to convince him to back him. Or maybe he just won't endorse anybody. I have mixed feelings about Powell. He was one of the few members of the Bush (mis-)administration that I thought was halfway decent but his selling out to Bushco over Iraq was pretty unforgivable knowing that he knew he was peddling a bunch of BS.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
43. I've always been a bit skeptical that Powell would have been this unstoppable electoral juggernaut
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:40 PM
May 2012

I think that idea was much more media-driven than anything else, going back to his flirtation with running in the mid-1990s.

Once he got into the thick of it, he would have found his relative moderate stance on many issues quite a handicap in the Republican primaries. He almost certainly would not have been the Republican nominee, especially since by 2008 he was already on the verge of switching sides anyway. That would have shown had he been under the microscope.

And even had he gotten the nomination, Obama would have beaten him handily - perhaps even by a few more points than he beat McCain.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
55. Devastating to whom?
Wed May 23, 2012, 07:34 PM
May 2012

Do you REALLY think the gop, or its surrogates, would air an ad reminding people that the gop lied us into war? Really?

Or are you just arguing just to be arguing?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
60. No ...
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:24 AM
May 2012

Actually, I think that would be closer to the 67% of the gop that don't believe that don't really believe all the crap that fox puts out.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
4. Hannity has his Ayers-Wright sock and he is going to keep chewing on it.
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:20 AM
May 2012

You can sneak it away from him when he isn't looking but he will find it and carry it back to his doggie bed made out of a dead horse.

DinahMoeHum

(21,784 posts)
7. Let the Hamster choke on that sock then. . .
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:24 AM
May 2012

People didn't give a shit about Ayers-Wright back in 2008, and they don't give a shit about it now.

As Powell said, it's ancient history.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
20. Some care about Ayers-Wright.
Wed May 23, 2012, 10:36 AM
May 2012

But they were never going to vote for Obama anyway. And if it wasn't Ayers-Wright, it would be something or someone else.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
36. LOL. Nice analogy...
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:19 PM
May 2012

I can totally picture Hannity chewing on it similar to how a dog would chew on something.

Take it away and he'll find it and keep chewing...and chewing...and chewing...

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
6. hannity thought he was going to play the game with powell?
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:21 AM
May 2012

hannity is nothing more than the court jester

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
8. That's how people like Hannity need to be responded to...
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:26 AM
May 2012

"Hannity then said that Obama spent '20 years' in Wright's church, to which Powell responded: 'Well, so?'"

Actually, people like Hannity REALLY need to be responded to this way: "Wait, you want me to come on your shallow propaganda TV show? Um, no thanks..."

goclark

(30,404 posts)
14. I salute Colin Powell's response
Wed May 23, 2012, 10:00 AM
May 2012

to Insanity by telling him, " Well so?"

As an identified Republican he didn't have to support Obama with his comments.

I just saw him do a great interview with Morning Joe , he was open and honest IMO with his responses. He had nothing negative to say about the President.

Was he used and abused during his time with Bush? YES!
Should he change his position now and speak out for Obama -- glad he did and hope he continues.

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
9. Hannity said that he finds Obama to be "one of the most divisive figures in -- that I've witnessed i
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:32 AM
May 2012

This is just don't get. How is he being divisive? By being black?

How?

joe1991

(178 posts)
13. Fox News number one rule:
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:57 AM
May 2012

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”

- Joseph Goebbels

jimmil

(629 posts)
15. Of course being black is divisive silly.
Wed May 23, 2012, 10:00 AM
May 2012

Reverend Wright is black and he is divisive. Obama is black so he must be divisive. It's just logic moran.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
62. Not only because he's black,
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:06 AM
May 2012

but also because he's a Dem. They actually seemed to take a liking to the Pizza Man when he was still running, though.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
19. They *really* hate him. Therefore, he is "divisive".
Wed May 23, 2012, 10:30 AM
May 2012

It doesn't matter that their hate is built on a collection of phony propaganda smears that Fox itself is largely responsible for.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
23. President Obama is divisive ...
Wed May 23, 2012, 10:47 AM
May 2012

in the same sense that zimmerman can claim self-defense ... It's the gop/bully way.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
10. Perfect response to most GOP blather
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:46 AM
May 2012

"Well, so?" it'll drive them into fits of rabid incoherence almost every time.

protect our future

(1,156 posts)
11. Slightly off topic, but important:
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:49 AM
May 2012

Yesterday morning, in a clip on MSNBC, Powell said this in response to which candidate he'll support. "It's not just the candidates; it's who they bring in with them." Probably not a direct quote but as close as I can remember. So, since Obama is now Prez and has already brung 'em in, I guess Powell is talking about Romney. So who does Powell think Romney might be bringing in with him? Cheney, Rove & friends? Hello again job destroyers and warmongers!

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
12. Who would Romney bring in with him? Well, for starters...
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:53 AM
May 2012

John Bolton as his advisor or foreign policy
Robert Bork as his advisor on the courts

So basically if Powell endorses Mitt Romney, not only is he STILL a war criminal, he'll be an asshole neocon fascist, too!

Powell will lose the remaining credibility that he had.

onlyadream

(2,166 posts)
16. On NPR
Wed May 23, 2012, 10:15 AM
May 2012

Powell said that it's not one person that is elected, it's an entire philosophy. He went on to say that he wants to hear what Romney has to say now that all the primary junk is out of the way. Powell also listed some items that he wasn't happy about regarding Obama. One being that Guantanamo was still open.
It sounded to me that Powell is now a democrat, but isn't admitting to it and is being cautious.

onlyadream

(2,166 posts)
44. I think he was just being cautious
Wed May 23, 2012, 02:18 PM
May 2012

But anyone listening could tell that he just didn't want to come out and say it. I did think it was amusing how Obama isn't progressive enough for Powell. Who woulda thunk it?

 

matmar

(593 posts)
17. Colin Powell damning Obama with faint praise...
Wed May 23, 2012, 10:21 AM
May 2012

..."he's not that devisive"......

really, Mr Yes Man?

It's Obama who's the problem??

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
18. I think it was Colbert who said
Wed May 23, 2012, 10:22 AM
May 2012

Obama spent 20 years going to Rev. Wright's Church which proves he's a Muslim.
McCain never went to Church which proves he's a Christian.

I hate hearing all the talk about Religion during every election. I measure the level of someones "faith" by watching their actions, not their mouths, not their press releases, just deeds.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
25. Past associations? Like Hannity and Hal Turner?
Wed May 23, 2012, 11:06 AM
May 2012

Seems if you "pal around" with a terrorist, you should watch where you lob your stones at.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
27. Powell also said "so what if he is?"
Wed May 23, 2012, 11:24 AM
May 2012

To the "Obama is a Muslim" lie. I think he said he didn't think he is but if that were the case- what really is the problem? I thought that was a strong statement of common sense.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
49. I did a video on Powell's Meet the Press interview
Wed May 23, 2012, 03:10 PM
May 2012

Those were the good old days when so much "hope" was in the air and Obama was on a tear. The right wing were frothing at the mouth, kinda like they're doing right now, and Powell's famous interview occurred. At the time, I despised him for being a yes man throughout his career, but this game-changing interview was a bit of redemption for the General. Just a bit.



loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
50. Well done
Wed May 23, 2012, 03:37 PM
May 2012

Thanks for posting. I was glad to hear that interview again. He had something very substantial to say. Powell has some ugly parts in his history, but he is a smart guy who learned a lot about thinking things through independently the hard way.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
37. I suppose
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:23 PM
May 2012

the constant, unremitting, never-ending vomitting of every negative thought, word or inference hannity has thrown out night after night after night for the past 5 years is "uniting" talk. You're damn straight he's been out to destroy him ever since he got his marching orders in exchange for his paycheck.

Reverend Wright was a DOA issue before election day 4 years ago, as was Bill Ayers. What is it about mediocre, rethug, middle aged, soft in the middle white guys who keep trying to live in the past? The train is moving forward--get on or get the eff out of the way.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
48. Colin Powell has strong personal reasons...
Wed May 23, 2012, 02:41 PM
May 2012

... for wanting to out the past behind him,
reasons that go further back than his shameful performance at the UN,
all the way back to VietNam.

That said, he DID a good job on Hannity.


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malaise

(268,980 posts)
51. He also tore Rmoney a new one when he said
Wed May 23, 2012, 03:46 PM
May 2012

Think Mitt think re the Russian Federation 'effry comment!!

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
57. Go Colin. This is like the few misinformed on here that moaned that Obama only stood behind
Wed May 23, 2012, 08:48 PM
May 2012

gay marriage by merely speaking to the country in the MSM and didn't sign a piece of paper. They were dead wrong, and so are these twittering on about Powell. When you're in a battle (speaking of the upcoming election and The Future), you welcome anyone who wants to help you win...even if you don't like them. They didn't have to be your prom date or anything.

Liberals need to grow a pair, accept with gratefulness every tilt to the left we can find, and take a real hard look at the Tea Party. Then do what they did. If "Occupy" is the best we can do, it's not looking great.

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