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Mon Sep 21, 2015, 12:42 PM

How most states allow discrimination against LGBTQ people

Most states don't ban discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity in the workplace, housing, or public accommodations (hotels, restaurants, and other places that serve the general public).

As a result, more than half of LGBTQ Americans, according to the LGBTQ advocacy group Movement Advancement Project, live in a state where, under state law, an employer can legally fire someone because he's gay, a landlord can legally evict someone because she's lesbian, and a hotel manager can legally deny service to someone who's transgender for no reason other than the person's sexual orientation or gender identity.

Currently, 19 states ban at least some forms of discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity, while three additional states ban discrimination based on sexual orientation. Some other states protect public but not private employees from discrimination. Many municipalities have nondiscrimination laws that only apply within their local borders, even in states that don't have such laws. And some companies prohibit discrimination in their own policies.

*Surveys show that most Americans widely support nondiscrimination protections, but a major hurdle to getting the laws passed may be that Americans already think they're in place."

http://www.vox.com/2015/4/22/8465027/lgbt-nondiscrimination-laws

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Reply How most states allow discrimination against LGBTQ people (Original post)
damnedifIknow Sep 2015 OP
stevenleser Sep 2015 #1
damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #2
Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #3
stevenleser Sep 2015 #5
One_Life_To_Give Sep 2015 #4
Behind the Aegis Sep 2015 #6
nightscanner59 Sep 2015 #7
beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #8
awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #9

Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2015, 12:48 PM

1. It's even worse than that for those states you mention. They can fire if they 'suspect you are gay'

 

as an excuse for termination for whatever else reason.

My first pitch to folks about ENDA is to do it because it is right.

IF that fails, I fall back to making it about them. "You know, even if you aren't gay, if your employer has a shady reason for firing you, he can claim that 'I thought the employee was gay' and then there is no recourse for you".

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 21, 2015, 12:59 PM

2. Proud to live in one of the most progressive states in regards to this

We have our problems here but many times we get things right.

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:49 PM

3. Democrats have attempted to create protection in legislation going back to the Equality Act of 1974

 

introduced by Representatives Bella Abzug and Ed Koch which Republicans and conservatives have blocked ever since. Repeated attempts to pass what is now ENDA have left the bill remaining in the lurch.
Without getting into detail, I would say that a great many DU posters are unaware of this and the implications of this discriminatory environment.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:26 PM

5. +1, nt

 

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:05 PM

4. And that is just the overt discrimination

Even where laws have been changed. There are so many ways with which to exclude people who are different from themselves. It's hardly surprising to me that the Closet is still so well used. When transgressing norms has such consequences. Strength to all my brothers, sisters and everyone in between who has to struggle with society's rejection of difference.

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:31 AM

6. Something many don't seem to find interesting or concerning.

When the news was looking toward a positive reaction to marriage equality, many started backing companies who were willing to drop "domestic partner policies" and couldn't see the forest for the trees. In areas where equality wasn't going to be limited to marriage, it seemed like it could be a positive thing, but many companies were based in or had locations in places described above. Too many, including a number of GLBT people, think the battle for our equality is over; it isn't. The discrimination in the article is quite real and does happen, then there is the homophobia, in general, and one can't have this discussion without mentioning the on-going heterosexist attitudes and actions which are often daily issues. Sadly, battling discrimination against GLBT people doesn't seem to be "en vogue" anymore and many turn a blind eye and deaf ear to the problems occurring.

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:02 PM

7. Faux "Religious Freedom" to be bigoted assholes:

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:09 PM

8. Some people think that the SCOTUS decision meant the fight was over.

When it comes to discrimination it's never over.

We need to keep fighting for full equality and stand our ground over the battles already won because the bigots will never stop pushing back.

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Wed Sep 23, 2015, 12:54 AM

9. Rec for exposure. nt

 

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