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[restorefreedom]

1. enough.

jail or resignation, her choice.

[Quackers]

31. Jail just makes her a martyr for the crazies.

Start piling on the fines and remove her from office. This country has wasted too much time on her already.

[restorefreedom]

34. removal from office....yes. nt

[MoonRiver]

37. Yep, real simple.

POS

[restorefreedom]

39. interesting how

some in the gop don't want a muslim because they're afraid it's contrary to the Constitution, but they have no problem supporting a public official interfering with the public function under the guise of religious freedom.

PS love your sig line. I wonder if anything is happening to that scumbag I hope the feds are still investigating him.

[MoonRiver]

42. GOP hypocrisy is just breathtaking!

And they really have no clue about it.

Ah, Cecil, may he R.I.P. I haven't heard how that POS murderer is doing. Hopefully he will go bankrupt soon. Can't imagine going to such a warped creep for dental work.

I really do hope the feds are investigating him. No way he didn't know he was going into a sanctuary!

Thanks for caring about Cecil! Far too many people in this world don't give a damn about animals.

[restorefreedom]

44. huge animal lover here

the cecil murder broke my heart. i still find it curious that his wife had an "import" business, and we are supposed to believe she never transported contraband dead animal parts for her sicko husband? sure. let me write that check for the bridge i am going to buy.....

[MoonRiver]

45. Yep, the whole situation stinks to high heavens.

I have no doubt they are both card carrying Republicans.

[restorefreedom]

46. oh, absolutely

one percent entitled scumbags, for sure

edit to add...probably trump supporters. they seem like the type

[BigDemVoter]

2. She's an obnoxious, unrepentant windbag.

Instead of putting her in jail, I've got a better idea.

Fine her a considerable amount of money for every day she refuses to comply. I'm not talking about pennies here. And whatever sum adds up, hold her accountable to pay it off. Hold it over her head the same way banks are allowed to hold student loans over borrowers' heads. Make her pay it off for the rest of her life, at the expense of other things she wants to do.

Furthermore, slap a permanent gag order on her and do not allow her to pontificate and beg for money on the internet. THAT will stop this shit. Oh yeah, and FIRE her from her job immediately, as she's not meeting her job requirements.

[RKP5637]

7. A fine totaling to about $80k/yr. would be nice! n/t

[CurtEastPoint]

8. Yes. Watching 'Show Me a Hero' and the judge personally fined those Yonkers clowns

$500/day for being in contempt. Why not this ... person.

[mcar]

25. I like this idea

Jail makes her a martyr. Hit her in her pocketbook.

[jeff47]

28. Won't work. Her "friends" will just donate to Husband #4. (nt)

[davidpdx]

32. I'm at odds with the jail versus fine

Jail does make her a martyr, but fines hit her in the pocketbook. I think the fines would have to be substantial. Someone was saying $500 a day, I disagree. I think it's got to be at a minimum a $1,000 a day. If her salary is $80,000 a year she'd make $6,666.66 per month before taxes (No I'm not making this up. Ironic isn't it?) It would take just under 7 days of defying the court order to blow one months salary. In a matter of a month, her entire year's salary would be gone.

[restorefreedom]

40. yes, great idea. and as you point out

she is accountable. no crowdfunding.

[mnhtnbb]

3. Jail.

[RKP5637]

5. She's an absolute jerk. I have to agree, I did have a little sympathy for her in the very

beginning, but I thought her reasoning was stupid and illogical, and that she would come around. Now, I think she is an absolute jerk, and she is a stooge being used to further tear down the church/state separation in the US. In fact, I now think of her as a blithering moronic anti-American fool.

[niyad]

11. why would you have any sympathy for a person sucking on the public teat who fails to do

her/his SECULAR job for "religious" reasons? separation of church and state, anyone?

[niyad]

14. poster said, "sympathy", and it apparently took some time for the reality of that hate-monger

to register.

[RKP5637]

19. Yep, the use of the word sympathy by me was a poor choice of words on my part. n/t

[RKP5637]

23. ...

[RKP5637]

17. The use of the word sympathy by me was a poor choice of words on my part. n/t

[niyad]

22. you may have had a more charitable view of her behaviour than some of us. She made me

ill from the first moment I heard of her.

[RKP5637]

24. I wonder what the next step will be by the judge. I posted this earlier.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027186489

[RKP5637]

16. Only briefly in the beginning, because I thought she would quickly come around, but

that sympathy went out the door quickly in milliseconds. I figured she would whine a bit and then get on with it asap. That was before she started her first shenanigan. No, I never had any sympathy for her trying to fracture the separation of church/state.

[niyad]

18. I get all that. my question is, on what grounds did you have ANY sympathy for her?

[RKP5637]

21. Lots of people in life don't want to do something, but they do it anyway, and then later they wonder

why they made such a big deal of it. Yep, sympathy was totally a poor choice of words by me. I stand corrected!

[sunnystarr]

27. Are you the thought police here??

People should be free to give their opinion without being bullied.

[niyad]

35. nobody is bullying. I was simply asking for information on the poster's viewpoint. understanding

others' viewpoints is very helpful.

[closeupready]

38. Like you, I also had a hard time feeling strongly about this initially.

Not that homophobia doesn't bother me, but rather, it hadn't gotten this far where an elected official has hijacked a religion in an attempt to defy federal court orders, deny citizens their civil rights, and hopefully muster enough sympathy for a gofundme payback.

[niyad]

9. kimmy, you attention hound--resign or do your damned job, you hate-filled waste of skin

and oxygen.

[spanone]

10. K&R...

[niyad]

12. the only problem I have with throwing this scum in jail is that the taxpayers are STILL on the

hook for her.

[PSPS]

26. "reassign marriage license duties to another entity in a receivership."

This is the proper way to proceed. Just dismantle what has become "the department of religious police" and assign its lawful duties elsewhere. A federal court order can accomplish this in an instant.

[struggle4progress]

29. From the Kentucky statutes:

402.100 Each county clerk shall use the form prescribed by the Department for Libraries and Archives when issuing a marriage license ...

402.240 In the absence of the county clerk, or during a vacancy in the office, the county judge/executive may issue the license and, in so doing, he shall perform the duties and incur all the responsibilities of the clerk. The county judge/executive shall return a memorandum thereof to the clerk, and the memorandum shall be recorded as if the license had been issued by the clerk.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

30. I think she's still in contempt.

Her ass needs to be hauled back to jail.

[ProfessorGAC]

33. ^^^This^^^

She is not doing what was required to be released from jail. She is the one at odds with the law and she thinks she gets to set the terms.

Doesn't work that way!

[closeupready]

36. Back to jail, fine her, file lawsuits againts Rowan County and the State of KY

until her persecution of gay people ends.

[Volaris]

41. OK now she's just being a dick.

Before, at least she could say she was dtanding on her principals. Have the Marshal's service put her back in her box.
And why? Here's why.

An act of civil disobedience is worthless unless you're actually disobeying something (in this case, a court order). I commend her willingness to disobey in order to stand for what she believes. But blocking fucking traffic as an effictive form of letgitimate form of protest means you WILL get a ticket, and you ARE required to pay it.
What this constitutionally uneducated Dumb Bitch wants is to stand in the middle of the road, and have the cops, the courts, the entirety of the Federal Government just ignore her. At this point she's doing it not because she believes it, but because she's in a pissy snit because she lost the first time.
Fuck her. Put her back in her box, and throw away the key until such time as she complies, resigns or the state legislature (that apparently agrees with her) decides to publicly shame the shit out of her by removing her from office and angering the rest of their constituents.
Good luck with all that, and have fun in prison.

[smirkymonkey]

43. +1000

She really is a total a**hole. I would like to smack the living shit out of her.