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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVideo allegedly captures epic 'white privilege' fight in Brooklyn : jogger vs stroller pusher
Black cop stands between two angry white guys
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Video-allegedly-captures-epic-white-privilege-6524964.php
"You push your stroller into people? Your baby could get hurt. Your baby could get hurt. I fight babies like you, baby."
"You're new in the neighborhood, I came to this neighborhood. The only reason white people like you are living here is because I settled this f------ neighborhood for you."
"Don't push your stroller into my legs. Don't push your stroller into my legs."
"White privilege! White f------ privilege! You push your stroller right into me and all I said was, 'excuse you' and then you said, 'f--- you.' F--- you! F--- you you white trash. You f------ white trash."
http://www.theawl.com/2015/09/the-ballad-of-the-brooklyn-settler
Back off me
Back off me
Back the fuck off me
Back the fuck off me
Back the fuck off ME
Dont fucking come back here
Ill kill you
With one punch
Youre messing with the wrong guy
I fight for a living
Youre messing with the wrong guy
scuse you, pal
You push your stroller into people?
Your baby could get hurt
Your baby could get hurt
I fight babies like you, baby
Youre new in the neighborhood
I came to this neighborhood
The only reason white people like you are living here
Is because I settled this fucking neighborhood
For you
Dont push your stroller into my legs
Dont push your stroller into my legs
White privilege! White fucking privilege!
You push your stroller right into me
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I am by there a lot. I recognize that particular construction site.
There are a couple of upscale high rise condominiums nearby, mostly owned by white people, in the middle of this vastly predominantly black lower to lower middle class community.
A lot of the folks who live in those condos have entitled behaviors.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Brooklyn Heights is lily white and ultra-expensive.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)On this map, assuming it works properly, Brooklyn Heights is to the left on the other side of Adams Street.
The area where I think this incident happened is around the intersection of Willoughby and Bridge street. In fact the photo Google maps pulls up is of the construction area in the video.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)That's downtown Brooklyn, which was more of a dead zone than any kind of middle class community. Nearby Fort Greene, on the other hand, was historically a middle class African-American neighborhood.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)One of the places I work is in Metrotech so I have been going to that area regularly (1-3 times a week) for around 6 years now.
It has changed a lot just in that time.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Actually, every place in Bklyn we've rented has been demolished to make way for new construction., come to think of it.
Back in the day, only decent restaurant in the area was Juniors.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Most of the folks walking around are clearly from the Fort Greene neighborhood you talked about.
Every once in a while you see some of the folks from the expensive condos and they are an obvious culture clash with the other folks around. Then you have the folks like me who work in Metrotech and that is yet another dynamic.
There are a lot of fast food chinese and mexican restaurants that have sprung up to handle the lunch crowd from metrotech.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I feel sorry for the cop stuck in between two people that really have zero problems going on.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)and got into such a foaming lather, shot himself! Road rage...I guess we can call this one stroller rage.
Dorian Gray
(13,850 posts)this is embarrassing. Those guys are assholes.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)and somehow this is about race?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Yeah, what comes out of his mouth is definitely about race.
"I settled this neighborhood"
He musta got off the boat with Peter Minuit and traded beads with the Lenape.
Surprisingly good shape for a guy that old.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Fucking hilarious!!!
marmar
(79,759 posts)No, the incident itself isn't about race, but there's subtext in that statement.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Like it was a wild uncivilized land before a bunch of white people moved there. I think that word, when used in this way, is pretty much always racist, isn't it? Like European immigrans "settled" America.
Dorian Gray
(13,850 posts)is racist drivel. He's a total jerk.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Afterward you will understand why.
olddots
(10,237 posts)you gotta problem woth that ?
GreatGazoo
(4,634 posts)Tree-Hugger
(3,379 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)This, in a nutshell, is why.
You don't know the meaning of 'drama queen' unless you live amongst people like this.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Insert any other adjective/color into that post and it would be an immediate hide, if not a ban.
Shame.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)White people are poor? White people are powerless?
No, I don't get it, please explain. Though I fully expect you are going to run away in frustration, and remain silent, because you have no explanation.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)as though that is some block of humans you have to "run away from."
Sorry you're so afraid of anyone in your life that you have to "run" when you see them.
You used the term "run away" again in your retort toward me. No, I don't run away from anyone.
What difference does it make if "white people" are a racial minority or not? Do you not know that many white people are poor and powerless??? Do you seriously believe that all white people have some fat pot of money and wonderful smooth, happy lives?
I simply pointed out that your post would be hidden if you had used any other descriptor. Hell, you'd be the first to alert, no doubt.
No idea why you're so angry here bud, but you can look elsewhere for a fight. I said what I said and I explained it.
You have a great day now.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)whathehell
(30,473 posts)Skittles
(171,745 posts)stereotyping is very wrong, unless the subject is white people or cops
AllFieldsRequired
(489 posts)Lots of good white folk work to fix that, but that doesnt change the facts.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)AllFieldsRequired
(489 posts)Would love to see you prove my original point wrong.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)but it would result in a hidden post.
Controlled everything where? In Rwanda? Liberia? Zimbabwe?
Um, no.
And here, just so you know, we have had a black president for the last eight years...so far I've not noticed a lot of change.
Sorry that you feel this way. Must be difficult.
AllFieldsRequired
(489 posts)It isnt an opinion to say what I said, it is an obvious fact.
Now remember, we are talking about America. Because here white people rule, in spite of a Black President at the moment.
Not sure why this is even a conversation.
You see, if I was you, knowing how defensive you are being, I would have said something like:
"Well sure, obviously, but arent white people also responsible for most of the good in America over the past 200 yrs?"
I would consider that an interesting conversation.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I think they take it personally, when it has nothing to do with them.
I agree.
Rex
(65,616 posts)What race is it that always causes social unrest, war and huge economic problems for other races? Just because a fact is upsetting, does not mean we should ignore it. Also, like the other poster said many white people work on this issue daily.
Facts are what they are. It wasn't black people that put Native Americans onto reservations or Japanese Americans into camps during WWII...I could go on and on but you get my point.
romanic
(2,841 posts)Ancestors of white Americans have done quite a lot of shit during the colonization period. Can't fault modern-day whites for the original sin of colonization. Jmho.
Rex
(65,616 posts)And the problem still exists today.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Can you draw a box around what we are deeming "America" for the purpose of this discussion.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I'm leaving Canada out of it. Again, it is not something to take personally.
a la izquierda
(12,339 posts)"americanos."
Rex
(65,616 posts)We could expand that by including North and South America if we really want to. The Spanish were not any nicer to the natives in South America than the English were to the natives in North America.
brush
(61,033 posts)Like continual wars?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The Caribs slaughtered the Arawaks before we got here though, so that one's not on us.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'm trying to feel dispossessed and historically oppressed by the response you're upset by, but it's just not happening. Quite possibly, the privileges I've grown up with inure me to them... unless if course, I simply pretend to be offended by it.
Maybe the generations of historical shame my ancestors never endured has taught me that words a re little by themselves, yet precious salt for the wounds of those who endured so much more than my family did.
Historical context can be difficult for both the dogmatic, as well as those who hunger for an insult to better maintain the pretense of equality under historical oppression.
Shame, indeed.
ileus
(15,396 posts)He'd be a little more polite in the South.
brush
(61,033 posts)As if no one was living there before.
Now that's what I call white privilege.
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Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)The white dude yelling white privilege. I was kind of hoping I would see this:
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)romanic
(2,841 posts)Okay but being serious, I place fault squarely at greedy developers for creating this gentrfication cycle crapola that goes on in places like Brooklyn and other big cities. There's nothing wrong with whites moving into so-called 'ethnic enclaves", I mean were not living in segregated times now are we??? However it's the developers that hike up rents and eradicate the character of these areas in favor of richer whites and whoever else to mingle with lower-middle income people. This is what happens and what you get in the end.
whathehell
(30,473 posts)I haven't the slightest.
romanic
(2,841 posts)It's a term for those who are zealous in identity politics. White SJWs are probably the worst at this from my experiences.
Being a fighter for social justice doesn't necessarily
mean one is heavily invested in "identity" politics.
romanic
(2,841 posts)A real fighter of social justice =\= SJW.
whathehell
(30,473 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)whathehell
(30,473 posts)if this clip didn't concern two guys.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Most of these multi-million dollar condos are no larger than college dorms at a big state school in the Midwest. So, people with kids look to expand their size by pushing huge baby strollers or have their kids run up and down the streets on scooters.
City living is not optimal for raising children.
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)sylvanus
(122 posts)Dude is screaming obscenities at a white-woman with a baby, all in the face of a cop,
and then jogs away very much un-cuffed and very much alive.
Amazing.