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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Wed May 23, 2012, 02:02 PM May 2012

Shocking claim: 15 year-old girl kidnapped for Vatican sex parties

Emanuela Orlandi Was 'Kidnapped For Vatican Sex Parties,' Claims Father Gabriele Amorth
Posted: 05/22/2012 5:52 pm Updated: 05/22/2012 6:18 pm

The Holy See was directly involved in the disappearance of 15-year-old Emanuela Orlandi in 1983, according to a contentious accusation by the Catholic Church's leading exorcist. The Rev. Gabriele Amorth claimed that the girl's kidnapping was a "crime of a sexual nature."

"Parties were organized, with a Vatican gendarme acting as the 'recruiter' of the girls," Amorth told La Stampa, according to a translation by The Telegraph. "The network involved diplomatic personnel from a foreign embassy to the Holy See. I believe Emanuela ended up a victim of this circle."

Amorth, who was appointed by Pope John Paul II and has carried out more than 70,000 exorcisms, is no stranger to controversial public statements; according to The Sun, the exorcist has called Harry Potter the "work of the devil," and has claimed "the devil was at work in the Vatican" when discussing the Catholic Church's sex scandals.

Clues to the missing girl's whereabouts had pointed in several directions, including toward a Turkish gunman who attempted to assassinate Pope John Paul II, The Telegraph reports.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/emanuela-orlandi-vatican-sex-parties_n_1536531.html?ref=mostpopular

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Shocking claim: 15 year-old girl kidnapped for Vatican sex parties (Original Post) Cali_Democrat May 2012 OP
That's shocking Zanzoobar May 2012 #1
+1 Fresh_Start May 2012 #2
I don't believe in the devil HillWilliam May 2012 #3
I don't know that I'd automatically discount it, even considering the source.... PDJane May 2012 #4
Disgusting Politicalboi May 2012 #5
I'm not shocked JustAnotherGen May 2012 #6
All you need to know is Bennyboy May 2012 #7
Try this link.....there's less junk to go through. PDJane May 2012 #9
The Vatican will have a hard time quashing this story since it has hedgehog May 2012 #8
This guy sounds mentally ill. LeftyMom May 2012 #10
I just can't take someone who has done 70,000 exorcisms very seriously Raine May 2012 #11
Abuse at an early age may result in dissociative disorders AKA multiply personality disorders siligut May 2012 #13
While the 'Ol Exorciser there might be a little long in the tooth..... DeSwiss May 2012 #12

HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
3. I don't believe in the devil
Wed May 23, 2012, 02:12 PM
May 2012

I believe there are weak men who'll blame their depravities on anything but themselves. Organized religion seems to be full of such.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
5. Disgusting
Wed May 23, 2012, 02:20 PM
May 2012

These same pedophiles get a say in our communities. They are taken seriously as a religion, but they are worse than the Manson clan. Let's hope this is the last straw we will take from these pedophiles once and for ALL. And exorcisms? WTF They mean torture. How is believing in voodoo hold any ground at all. I am sick of religion. IMO It should be eradicated.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
8. The Vatican will have a hard time quashing this story since it has
Wed May 23, 2012, 02:31 PM
May 2012

never attempted to rein in this priest before. I think he's 87, so the question is, is he senile and making this up, or is he senile and letting secrets loose, or is he trying to get stuff off his chest before he faces judgment?

There has been a series of stories in recent weeks coming out of Rome that I have trouble following. The gist is that various factions in the Vatican are leaking info on each other, and the Italian press is going wild. I don't have the time or energy to follow all the arcane details, but my takeaway is that the shit is hitting the fan big time and everyone knows it.

John Paul the Great? I think a lot of birds are coming home to nest. There was a big rush to canonize him, and he got as far as Blessed, but someone put the brakes on the process.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
11. I just can't take someone who has done 70,000 exorcisms very seriously
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:13 AM
May 2012

could be true but this guy is just not a very crediable source IMO.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
13. Abuse at an early age may result in dissociative disorders AKA multiply personality disorders
Thu May 24, 2012, 10:42 PM
May 2012

It makes sense to me that, in a religious setting, an exorcist would be called in if a young person presented with a different personality.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
12. While the 'Ol Exorciser there might be a little long in the tooth.....
Thu May 24, 2012, 09:57 PM
May 2012

...he didn't make up the extra bones they found in the mobster's grave who supposedly kidnapped the girl to begin with:

On May 14, one rumor led Italian police to exhume the grave of Enrico De Pedis, a member of Rome's Magliana mob who was killed in 1990, the Associated Press reports. A one-time girlfriend previously said De Pedis committed the kidnapping, and an anonymous call to a television show in 2005 suggested clues on Orlandi's fate lay in the dead mobster's tomb in Basilica of Sant’Apollinaire. A set of bones not belonging to De Pedis were found, but the identity of the remains has yet to be released.

The Vatican insists it has done everything in its power to help solve the mystery of the missing girl.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/emanuela-orlandi-vatican-sex-parties_n_1536531.html



- Considering the role The Church plays in conducing funerals, maybe they should dig up a few more graves.....

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