FWIW I don't believe the Pope met with Davis-

[LiberalElite]

I think this is a Plan B move after the "prayer rally" pic was shown to be a fake. Now it's 1) Not only did he meet with her in SECRET 2) he even gave her two ROSARIES that she gave to her parents. (How generous. And convenient. Now she doesn't have the evidence anymore.)

P.S. Edit - I also strongly suggest that any letters to the editor about this include that made-up story about the prayer rally so to further disaccredit them.


P.P.S. Edit - now her face is on GMA again. Just when she was fading from view.....

[dorkzilla]

1. No WAY did that happen

Besides, doesn’t her particular flavor of “Christian” bigotry think the Pope is going to hell anyway?

After the stupid Peru pictures yesterday, I don’t believe anything she or her “supporters” say and I think we should just ignore her.

[LiberalElite]

2. Yep. After this one

flops they're getting Jesus personally involved. The RW makes it up as they go along. Why should this be any different?

[PeaceNikki]

3. Fuck him even if he didn't. His words and actions are encouragement to her and all like her.

Her parents are allegedly Catholic and she's gotten a ton of support from Catholic organizations.

[dorkzilla]

14. That’s why i am a FORMER Catholic

Total atheist now, even though (or maybe because of?) my parish was very progressive. Plus our Monsignor used to think of my grandparents as his parents and he’d come for dinner Saturday and we’d get shit-faced and talk about theology. He bought me Merton’s “The Seven Story Mountain”, which lead me to Joseph Campbell which led me to my present blissful atheism, but I am very interested in theology and comparative religion.

I deplore his stance on gays and abortion but at least he’s speaking up for the poor, making climate change a moral issue and has vowed to do something about predator priests. I’m hoping his mind can be changed on the other 2...he’s only been Pope for 2 years, and from what I understand he is a man who has changed his thinking over the years...I’m hoping to see more of the same.

But I totally understand where you’re coming from, Nikki.

[Bluenorthwest]

13. Um you are uninformed. Not that you want to be informed, but you could be.

http://time.com/3597245/vatican-evangelicals-mormons-gay-marriage/

[dorkzilla]

15. “Not that you want to be informed”????????

Why the personal attack???? Was that necessary?

[Bluenorthwest]

18. Did you read the link? Are we talking about the content? I have posted about this many times on

DU. The folks who need to learn this do not read it. Did you? You know we are talking about two activists who work against my rights, so asking me to be super kind while you defend a man who says I am disordered and my rights from Satan is an interesting status game.

If you read the link and talk about the information there that belies the post I responded to I'll say my snark was undeserved. But right now it seems you did not read the link. And that sort of proves my point.

This is important to those who fight for equality.

[dorkzilla]

19. I just did read it and now I am better informed BUT YOU NEEDN’T INSULT ME

I have not seen your numerous posts on this, I am NOT defending him because he ALSO thinks I am bound for hell (divorced, had an abortion at 18, atheist). I was merely expressing incredulity at someone who was caught in 2 big lies in the last few days now claiming she’d met a man who has gotten some respect and a lot of attention.

“But right now it seems you did not read the link. And that sort of proves my point”. WTF, where are you pulling ALL these assumptions from????????????

Had you just responded by saying ‘might I suggest you read this - you may change your mind’ instead of INSULTING ME in your post, perhaps you WOULD get more people to understand you. And had you I would have read the article STRAIGHT AWAY.

But THANK YOU for enlightening me, even though you fucking insulted me several times now.

Have a nice day.

[Bluenorthwest]

20. You declared that there was 'no way this happened'. Facts suggest it very well may have happened.

You declared that people who organize against my family do not do so, you claimed they all hate each other when in fact the are united in hate for LGBT.

Since you are reading me the riot act let me ask you this: Is it not rude to speak with great certainty about important issues you do not really know about? To tell those who do know, when you have not bothered to find out? Why not just pass on the lecture until you do the research?

But you are right, I should always remain kinder that my opponents.

I note that you managed to avoid speaking about the actual information at that link.

[dorkzilla]

22. FFS - first I’m not your “opponent”, secondly, go back and read my post.

All is expresses is that her “counsel” lied about some big things in the last couple of days so this seemed like more of the same. You read a lot into my post and you’ve made some giant assumptions about me (‘not that you want to be informed’). Just stop. I read the article and now I know better. The fact remains there was NO NEED TO BE A DICK about it, if indeed your REAL goal is to inform and not be a jerk.

[Bluenorthwest]

30. When can we discuss the content of the link I posted? My snark was because folks avoid those facts.

So far you too have avoided those facts. Your post was an absolute 'No way did this happen'. Your reason was that the two groups do not get along. I showed you that they do in fact organize together to oppose marriage equality, my link shows Francis inviting Tony Perkins to a meeting in Rome. Perkins gave Davis an award this week in DC, Francis was in DC and so, you know, she might have gotten an introduction to the Pope from Tony. 'No way this happened, they all hate each other'.

At what point can I again say that you do not want to discuss the facts nor the link I offered? We are still not discussing it. You are just attacking me over and over for making one snarky comment. Are you satiated yet?

[dorkzilla]

35. I said I read it and am now better informed twice now. How is that “avoiding facts”?

I was not aware of the meetings mentioned in your article and now I know it is so. I am not a folk who avoids facts. I LIKE when people enlighten me. So thank you for that. My post was about my doubt, and was ONLY because Davis’ people have made some pretty big claims that ended up being lies.

You’ve made more than one snarky comment and you still haven’t apologized. I’m not going to continue this conversation. I’ve said I’ve read it, I’ve thanked you for it and there is nothing else to say.

[Bluenorthwest]

37. No, you also claimed that Davis style Christians do not collude with Francis style Christians and I

offered proof that they do. You have still not mentioned that my links show your 'they hate each other' claim is specious.

You have continuously refused to discuss the material, you are still not discussing it, you have called me names and heaped sermons on me for making one snarky comment.

I told you that if we could discuss the facts I presented, I'd retract my snark about folks not wanting to talk about those facts.
We have not discussed those facts at all, but I'll apologize anyway. But discussing the facts would have been very nice.

[dorkzilla]

39. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???

I SAID "I READ IT AND NOW I KNOW BETTER!!! Please go back and read my responses. My second response says so RIGHT IN THE REPLY TITLE. and then I say "THANK YOU for enlightening me"
3rd response "I read the article and now I know better.”
4th response, again in the REPLY TITLE " I said I read it and am now better informed twice now.” then in the body of the reply I say "I’ve said I’ve read it, I’ve thanked you for it...”

What “facts” are there to discuss? I made an assumption, you corrected me and I’ve said I read it and now I know better NUMEROUS TIMES NOW. AND YOU’RE STILL CLAIMING I HAVEN’T ACKNOWLEDGED IT???????

[Darb]

21. Careful dorkzilla,

you cannot win with them. The perfect is the enemy of the good, and the baby went out with the bathwater a long time ago.

It is all about them. The Catholic Church MUST change its entire teachings and philosophies RIGHT NOW, and this particular Pope is responsible for everything that the church ever did, including the Inquisition.

Nothing will satisfy them until the Pope comes to their house and marries them and their partner.

[PeaceNikki]

23. No, it's all about YOU and protecting the oppressors from getting their feefees hurt.

These people are actively working to restrict the civil rights of others and criticism of them is seen as bad by you.

Fuck that.

[Darb]

27. Whatev.

I've been down this road with you before. It leads to a dead end. Placed there by you.

[PeaceNikki]

36. k.

[Bluenorthwest]

24. With 'them'? I am an individual person. You are calling LGBT persons 'them'?

"Nothing will satisfy them until the Pope comes to their house and marries them and their partner."

Wow. Openly bigoted denigration. 'Them'. Disgusting.

[Bluenorthwest]

31. Ah, more insults with bias leading the stylistic choices.

You can not respond to the facts so you crank out personal insults. Good for you. Bigotry and highly dated drug references. Charming.

[unblock]

4. i believe she met the pope. the pope showed up in her morning toast.

yep, if you look at it just right, and you believe strongly enough, it's definitely the pope.

[livetohike]

7. LOL. Thanks for the laugh this morning.

[PeaceNikki]

5. I wouldn't be surprised if he did, and wouldn't be shocked if it's a lie.

Her parents are allegedly Catholic. They share the same views on LGBT. And she's a liar. Either way this story is believable.

[Darb]

25. Of course it is believable...........

to you.

Would you mind explaining how you know that her parents "share the same views on LGBT"? I pretty much ignore everything about that kook, so maybe you have read it or heard them say it. Please proceed.

[PeaceNikki]

29. By "they" I meant Kim and Wonderpope McDreamy.

That's supported by the Pope's ties to FRC

[davidpdx]

6. Speaking of GMA...from her co-worker's Twitter account

Sitnexto Kim Davis ?@nexttokimdavis Sep 23
BTW - Any time #KimDavis comes out of the office, she's holding her @GMA coffee mug. I don't think there's even anything in it.

https://twitter.com/nexttokimdavis

[LiberalElite]

8. She's lovin' it

What a humble servant of God she is.

[davidpdx]

9. I'm just wondering how long before she writes her book

You know that's coming next.

[dorkzilla]

16. You know that twitter account is parody, right?

I mean its funny as hell, but its not really her co-worker.

[davidpdx]

38. No I didn't

Guess that one went way over my head.

[dorkzilla]

40. Click on her twitter link...

Then scroll all the way to the bottom to see how the whole thing started (from the picture of the blond woman side-eyeing her). Really funny stuff. I think even Rachael Maddow profiled it on her show.

[cwydro]

10. I don't either. eom

[Gothmog]

11. Kim Davis' attorney has lied on other occassions

It is hard to take anything this attorney says seriously

[randome]

17. What if...

...her attorneys dressed up as the Pope and his entourage and held this secret meeting with her?

I wouldn't put it past them.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.[/center][/font][hr]

[patricia92243]

12. Pictures? People that saw this happen that are not her

buddies? There should be easy to find proof if he met with her or not. I say he did not.

[mucifer]

34. yeah and Jesus was there too they just didn't have a camera around.

[City Lights]

28. I find it very difficult to believe.

IMO, it smells like BS.

[NightWatcher]

32. I hope her husband Clem wore his good overalls

[mucifer]

33. The pope might eventually deny it but

he might agree with her and not had time to meet her

If he acknowledges she didn't meet with him it hurts her cause which he probably believes in.

So the lie lives on.

I still hope he denies he met her. If he doesn't, that says a lot.

[nichomachus]

41. Well, we are talking about a guy who is giving asylum to a pedophile enabler

He's protecting Bernard Law from legal action in the US due to his serial enabling of child rape. Law is living a life of luxury as a "price of the church" -- at the same time Francis the Fraud is making all sort of noises about ending child rape.

[Maven]

42. VATICAN CONFIRMED IT