On 60 minutes, "The hidden Holocaust"

[question everything]

A really shuttering, unbelievable story. About how so many Jews did not die in concentration camps, but inside trenches in Eastern Europe. A French priest uncovered graves, and found eyewitnesses.

And, in the back of my and my spouse's mind was the thought that the scenes there reminded us of many in the movie "Everything is illuminated." The dreary landscape.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hidden-holocaust-60-minutes/

(And, yes, Lara Logan is the correspondent. Don't hold it against her, she did an excellent job)

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. Babi Yar

Terrible

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar

[Person 2713]

2. The old person talking about how the grave moved for 3 days . They knew some were alive in it

Making the women watch their babies die first
Townspeople would watch
The ending though with that last man who wanted to say all the names of his Jewish neighbors

[TexasProgresive]

3. That was how the "final solution" began

open pit mass graves, people machined gunned and buried. I didn't know this was a new revelation. The concentration camps came later as the German penchant for efficiency demanded a more systematic approach, and so adapted the concentration camp idea from the British during the Boer wars in S. Africa.

[mucifer]

4. Lots of the soldiers who were shooting went insane and developed chemical dependencies

So they switched to concentration camps.

[moondust]

5. I wondered about the soldiers.

How many were utterly dehumanized and pulled the trigger willingly vs. how many just followed orders lest they themselves end up at the bottom of the trench. How many volunteered for the Einsatzgruppen knowing what they were getting themselves into?

No surprise that many Holocaust survivors concluded that there is no God, or if there is he doesn't give a shit about what's happening to his divine creation down here.

[beam me up scottie]

6. No words.

[840high]

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