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bigtree

(85,977 posts)
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:05 PM May 2012

What the hell is wrong with this man? Is he bored, clueless, or just doesn't like children?

I've never seen any candidate this uncomfortable around children.

A day after he declared education, "the civil rights issue of our era," Romney participated in an education roundtable at a charter school in a Philadelphia minority community. The charter school's founder said afterward that he's not sure whether Romney understands the needs of the African-American community.

I'm not convinced he even likes being around these kids . . .



















not like our guy . . .























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What the hell is wrong with this man? Is he bored, clueless, or just doesn't like children? (Original Post) bigtree May 2012 OP
Romney looks incredibly uncomfortable. madaboutharry May 2012 #1
His budget's out there. He knows anything he expresses re these kids is a LIE. Hence, he's= 0 here. patrice May 2012 #8
He doesn't have any answers, even in a grade school classroom. Thor_MN May 2012 #125
who let the dogs out... Enrique May 2012 #2
I don't see Romney's lack of enthusiasm as much as the children's. The difference with Obama, though freshwest May 2012 #3
I was just going to type that. You can fool a lot of people, but you can't fool kids or Mom..n/t monmouth May 2012 #14
You watch, the Romney people will say that Obama's people bribe the kids with candy... CTyankee May 2012 #81
Newt would say he bribed them bonniebgood May 2012 #157
Pretty sure that all Rmoney sees at this point is price-tags. patrice May 2012 #4
Romney has trouble interacting with humans. I don't think they programmed him livetohike May 2012 #5
Well, these pictures are all abaout him. BlueToTheBone May 2012 #6
The look on the face of the young fellow in the hifiguy May 2012 #7
Here's what the kids in that picture are thinking JBoy May 2012 #50
Fabulous! Chorophyll May 2012 #101
I taught elementary school goclark May 2012 #145
Just wait until Rarl Cove makes an ad showing him kissing babies.That'l show them libruls whose boss left on green only May 2012 #174
Mitt definitely looks uncomfortable and out of place there. Compare to this one. yellowcanine May 2012 #9
Happier maybe, but still stiff. He's the only guy there who isn't breaking the crease in his pants. Gidney N Cloyd May 2012 #105
Hey he is still Mitt. Born with a rod up the backside. Nuff said. yellowcanine May 2012 #109
Robme simply doesn't get it spiderpig May 2012 #10
'Robme,' perfect! freshwest May 2012 #55
I'm not sure if I can make it through this election cycle spiderpig May 2012 #99
"Robme"- brilliant! Stealing it! nt SunSeeker May 2012 #166
Robme...cute Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel May 2012 #179
I'm guessing he feels out of his element MineralMan May 2012 #11
The President totally connects with kids (of all ages :) WI_DEM May 2012 #12
Well lets see SoutherDem May 2012 #13
That last picture of Romney made me flinch sarge43 May 2012 #15
My thought on that one was that it looked creepy treestar May 2012 #64
yep... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #96
Just For Men Rmoney RockaFowler May 2012 #16
He probably fired all their parents Nostradammit May 2012 #17
children know evil datasuspect May 2012 #18
1+ and he can tell that they know he's in-authentic. nt patrice May 2012 #25
Yes. There is an obvious and clear difference in the PotatoChip May 2012 #97
I imagine Romney as quite the authoritarian parent: nenagh May 2012 #19
It makes you wonder what kind of dad he is/was XemaSab May 2012 #20
He's got that 1000-yard stare in picture #4. nt patrice May 2012 #21
The last one of Robme he has a smirk or sneer I can't decide lunasun May 2012 #22
The look is a sneer rufus dog May 2012 #111
it is not because they are children it is because they are members of a race he was CBGLuthier May 2012 #23
This is my opinion too siligut May 2012 #29
true lunasun May 2012 #60
RIGHT!! That look is WELL KNOWN!! It's the "I don't want to be here with these people" look uponit7771 May 2012 #69
Yup SmileyRose May 2012 #119
Last shot of the President and kids brush May 2012 #24
so true Voice for Peace May 2012 #32
More like the children don't like being around HIM. progressoid May 2012 #26
What did you expect? atreides1 May 2012 #27
Romney Turbineguy May 2012 #28
Governor Rick Scott of Florida HockeyMom May 2012 #30
Two Things TlalocW May 2012 #31
*This* Quantess May 2012 #45
In all fairness the President is one of the most telegenically pleasing people to grantcart May 2012 #33
I agree and ctaylors6 May 2012 #58
Very true. But I do think Romney is also very much not a "people person," NYC Liberal May 2012 #79
Just wait until they are on the same stage grantcart May 2012 #116
This ought to be fun. dmr May 2012 #135
If I had had five children ... frazzled May 2012 #34
Loves to screw lsewpershad May 2012 #35
Hey, Rmoney did touch that one kid. tclambert May 2012 #36
The expressions on those kids' faces in that second Rmoney pic say it all. n/t trusty elf May 2012 #37
Creepiness must be a common characteristic among rethuglicants lpbk2713 May 2012 #38
Little girl on the left is telegraphing, "Punch him in the nuts" Kennah May 2012 #141
KIssing babies is cliche Alcibiades May 2012 #39
Seriously? Fuck this shit. harmonicon May 2012 #40
joy? bigtree May 2012 #54
just really needs to find another calling in life... happerbolic May 2012 #144
I think everyone is focusing on Rmoney. Auntie Bush May 2012 #63
Who says he's uncomfortable with children? Internet poster? Well, that makes it a fact. harmonicon May 2012 #72
You REALLY think an adult would decided not to vote for RobMe cause of a pic like this? uponit7771 May 2012 #70
I would hope not, and that's why we should just ignore it. (nt) harmonicon May 2012 #74
No, most racist react the way RobMe is reacting in that pic, why should people ignore... uponit7771 May 2012 #76
OK, why don't you give us your list of why not to vote for Romney - TBF May 2012 #103
Umm... this is about comparing B.S. photo-ops, not management skills. harmonicon May 2012 #124
Romney's awkwardness with people of all ages is well-documented. whathehell May 2012 #128
I'm sure that I haven't. harmonicon May 2012 #131
Then I'm sure you're ability to whathehell May 2012 #149
Actual caring and photo-op bullshit are still two totally different things. harmonicon May 2012 #161
No kidding... What you're missing is that this whathehell May 2012 #173
There are so many forums on DU - Good Reads for example is a place TBF May 2012 #130
I agree looking still pics can give you a certain impression, but I'm sure the kids all KNOW Obama amyrose2712 May 2012 #155
That's how I see it, and I'm glad I'm not completely alone here. harmonicon May 2012 #164
Then you're admitting you're going into that election booth halfway uninformed Scootaloo May 2012 #140
No, I'll be informed, and I hope I stop others from being misinformed. harmonicon May 2012 #146
Yes. Sure. It's just the pictures, sure Scootaloo May 2012 #151
I'd like to think that I've never been someone to be described as "one of those people." (nt) harmonicon May 2012 #162
Of course you'd like to think that.. whathehell May 2012 #181
self-righteousness FTW!!! *high-five* (nt) harmonicon May 2012 #184
Good self-description! whathehell May 2012 #187
What "others"? whathehell May 2012 #182
I'm eligible to vote, mate. harmonicon May 2012 #185
Glad to hear it, mate. whathehell May 2012 #188
America I hope you keep Obama in November riverbendviewgal May 2012 #41
The images say it all, bigtree. Thank you, so much. n/t Judi Lynn May 2012 #42
Befuddlement madamesilverspurs May 2012 #43
I think in that picture he's reminiscing about cutting someones hair off and wishing Auntie Bush May 2012 #65
He is totally disconnected goclark May 2012 #177
Yeah, I never saw someone so uncomfortable around children... Auntie Bush May 2012 #178
"I love these tiny carbon based lifeforms, haaahaaahaaahaa (uncomfortable laugh)." nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #44
surprise! bigtree May 2012 #142
Must be some kind of software glitch in the Rombot 2012. nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #159
i pick clueless. i think those picture are sad. all the difference in smile and play with children seabeyond May 2012 #46
Kids can usually sense creepy adults. And creepy adults KNOW it. Poll_Blind May 2012 #47
Romney is one strange bird. n/t Cali_Democrat May 2012 #48
Romney is wondering where they keep the scissors. FSogol May 2012 #49
He has the classic "deer in the headlights" look to him. Behind the Aegis May 2012 #51
DUzy! mikeytherat May 2012 #59
They're all "Children Of Cain". Hell, I'm surprised he touched one of them. nt stlsaxman May 2012 #52
One guy is just AWKWARD (and can't even begin to fake it) SwissTony May 2012 #53
He came to teach them about stiff posture and the honor code. Maven May 2012 #56
Did Mitt bring his scissors? Vanje May 2012 #57
It seems all the haircuts met with his approval KurtNYC May 2012 #112
With rMoney it's almost like "Being There" Uncle Joe May 2012 #61
He looks like he doesn't understand the lessons lunatica May 2012 #62
Romney's always looking at the camera, not the kids. wickerwoman May 2012 #66
That look he has is bad...really bad, I don't know about others but he doesn't want to be there uponit7771 May 2012 #67
His face never changes. Botox? n/t GoneOffShore May 2012 #68
Good grief, of all the superficial things to focus on... Johnny Rico May 2012 #71
Racist usually react the way RobMe is reacting around black kids, this is relevant and I'm uponit7771 May 2012 #82
I have a mormon cousin, raised in Utah whathehell May 2012 #129
Except that it's not superficial Nostradammit May 2012 #85
did you miss the background I provided? bigtree May 2012 #87
Our Guy is Awesome madokie May 2012 #73
I feel so sorry for that girl being stuck sitting next to him. I wonder if Mitt even tried jillan May 2012 #75
There was a post on Du not long ago from a person who, a few years back, whathehell May 2012 #150
Romney looks depressed and regretful. JDPriestly May 2012 #77
I still think he's realizing how much of an asshole he is and that others will see it.. uponit7771 May 2012 #80
His spontaneous moments are scheduled weeks in advance. Initech May 2012 #78
Outstanding!! DUzy material for sure. hifiguy May 2012 #89
LOL Cali_Democrat May 2012 #98
And the answers are: Yes, yes, and yes. hobbit709 May 2012 #83
Nitt acts like he's in a leper colony ailsagirl May 2012 #84
Probably not used to them LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #86
That last picture of Romney is Raven May 2012 #88
this pic makes me smile so hard, BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #90
Wonderful, isn't it? hifiguy May 2012 #115
He looks very uncomfortable. Kadie May 2012 #91
ha! missed that bigtree May 2012 #104
Some handler screwed that up royally. Arugula Latte May 2012 #108
And that's why EarlG makes the big buck! kcass1954 May 2012 #117
He is truly without a soul ladym55 May 2012 #92
There are none as honest as our children malaise May 2012 #93
Is it because these are children or because they're minorities? craigmatic May 2012 #94
Kids know nt MrScorpio May 2012 #95
Romney's expression... Chorophyll May 2012 #100
For one it appears that the pictures of the President are from at least five jp11 May 2012 #102
Like a stuffed mannequin Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #106
"The servants always handled these matters..." Arugula Latte May 2012 #107
K & R Scurrilous May 2012 #110
K&R hwmnbn May 2012 #113
I'll speculate he was not hugged and cuddled as a child, nor did he hug and cuddle his children. Scuba May 2012 #114
Rmoney is that way with all people, it's difficult for a robot to connect Raine May 2012 #118
Honest to God! I think Romney is bothered MsPithy May 2012 #120
Those kids with Romney don't give a crap about him ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #121
I would say all three GObamaGO May 2012 #122
Upper Caste... Godot51 May 2012 #123
I love Pres Obama's smile - it is an infectious and genuine smile! Cass May 2012 #126
Oh my amuse bouche May 2012 #127
"I'm not convinced he even likes being around these kids ? amuse bouche May 2012 #132
I really am beginning to think he really is just a robot and not human. He looks southernyankeebelle May 2012 #133
Love the pics of Obama and kids EC May 2012 #134
Rmoney is clearly uncomfortable in that setting, esp. since his party has tried to take every drop wordpix May 2012 #136
I don't think RMoney raised his kids. Ilsa May 2012 #137
I am severely hearing impaired, so I am more sensitive than tblue37 May 2012 #138
it's very telling Skittles May 2012 #139
+1. BlueIris May 2012 #153
Not to excuse Romney, but he looks tired as hell... JCMach1 May 2012 #143
Yes, it must be very tiring trying to pretend he cares about people. nt SunSeeker May 2012 #167
LOL... JCMach1 May 2012 #172
so, mittens goes to a charter school Suji to Seoul May 2012 #147
+1,000!! SunSeeker May 2012 #169
He looks like he's posing the whole time while his mind is a million miles away. DesertDiamond May 2012 #148
The Romney photos are very telling. BlueIris May 2012 #152
it`s really simple.... madrchsod May 2012 #154
Could Romney be anymore awkward PatSeg May 2012 #156
President Barack Obama Madmiddle May 2012 #158
The Prez is genuinely interested in the kids. HappyMe May 2012 #160
He doesn't want to be there...whereas Obama could be buried Rex May 2012 #163
Rmoney's hostage pictures with these unwilling kids are disgusting. SunSeeker May 2012 #165
Look at the difference in body language nancylee May 2012 #168
Welcome to DU! UrbScotty May 2012 #170
Thanks!! I appreciate it! n/t nancylee May 2012 #171
That was what stood out for me as well... Spazito May 2012 #175
it's not just his body language and inability to crack a smile magical thyme May 2012 #176
Kids KNOW XanaDUer May 2012 #180
Kids just know onethatcares May 2012 #183
The Nanny raised the R Money kids. sarcasmo May 2012 #186

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
1. Romney looks incredibly uncomfortable.
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:10 PM
May 2012

The expression on his face telegraphs his desire to get out of there pronto.

I think the problem is that these kids just aren't his kind of people.

He is really a horrible person.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
125. He doesn't have any answers, even in a grade school classroom.
Thu May 24, 2012, 08:13 PM
May 2012

The kids have their hands raised to answer quetions and Romney has no clue what to do.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. I don't see Romney's lack of enthusiasm as much as the children's. The difference with Obama, though
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:11 PM
May 2012

Is beautiful, he's clearly a father who loves children. Those pictures were great, all of them are screensaver material. The first and second the most spontaneous, that boy hugging Obama brought tears to my eyes. He's such an example to young people. I love seeing the love being shared there. Thanks bigtree, that made my morning. Keep 'em coming, good to see the future.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. The look on the face of the young fellow in the
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:18 PM
May 2012

second Mittens pic is priceless. "Who is this dude, anyway and why should I care?"

Both of the Obamas seem utterly natural with and happy to be around kids.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
145. I taught elementary school
Fri May 25, 2012, 03:36 AM
May 2012

for many years.
The photo speaks volumes.... the kids are smarter than the visitor.

Thanks so much for sharing a real gem.

yellowcanine

(35,694 posts)
109. Hey he is still Mitt. Born with a rod up the backside. Nuff said.
Thu May 24, 2012, 05:16 PM
May 2012

Though apparently not stiff when unzipped.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
10. Robme simply doesn't get it
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:19 PM
May 2012

He's Shrub 2.0. Utterly soulless and dumb to boot.

Can't remember who originated the quote, but he/she said "When you look into his eyes, you see the back of his head".

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
99. I'm not sure if I can make it through this election cycle
Thu May 24, 2012, 04:58 PM
May 2012

Agh Agh Ahg...!!!

However, if I did standup, the material would write itself.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
11. I'm guessing he feels out of his element
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:20 PM
May 2012

for many reasons. He's more used to, you know, prep schools, full of people more like him. That's my guess.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
13. Well lets see
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:23 PM
May 2012

They are poor (or at least not filthy rich so same difference for Mitt).
They are black (so there is a good chance the parents are and they will be Democrat)
They can't vote (so this is a waste of his time)
They are smarter than he is (but it not a very high bar to reach)

sarge43

(28,940 posts)
15. That last picture of Romney made me flinch
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:28 PM
May 2012

I almost see a thought balloon "That one could use a hair cut."

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
16. Just For Men Rmoney
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:29 PM
May 2012

The grey/white on the sides make you look like Grandpa Munster. And not in a good way

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
97. Yes. There is an obvious and clear difference in the
Thu May 24, 2012, 04:53 PM
May 2012

demeanor of children when they are with President Obama. They are smiling, laughing, just basically looking as if they are having fun.

With Mitt otoh, they appear to be uncomfortable and ill at ease. It kind of reminds me of how people (young -or- old) look and feel around an unpleasant and intimidating authority figure.

Sorry about the cliche, but pictures really are worth a thousand words.

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
19. I imagine Romney as quite the authoritarian parent:
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:32 PM
May 2012

Seamus strapped to the roof of the car and bathroom breaks for the family pre-determined by Romney...

That's the Bain man at home...

These children are just too free... he looks bemused and ill at ease...

Whereas I can never get enough of our President smiling and at ease with children... He is an amazing man with a lovely family...

Thanks for the photo comparisons

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
20. It makes you wonder what kind of dad he is/was
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:32 PM
May 2012

Obama clearly loves and enjoys children, both his own and other people's.

Maybe Romney is that stiff and awkward with his own kids.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
22. The last one of Robme he has a smirk or sneer I can't decide
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:44 PM
May 2012

"geez what ya gotta do to be president nowdays" little cloud caption on most of his pics seems right

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
23. it is not because they are children it is because they are members of a race he was
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:44 PM
May 2012

raised to see as inferior. By no less than his own church. You don't shake that kind of indoctrination easily.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
29. This is my opinion too
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:49 PM
May 2012

He holds disdain for these children and they can tell. I hate him even more for this.

brush

(53,743 posts)
24. Last shot of the President and kids
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:44 PM
May 2012

All of the shots of President Obama and the kids are great but the last one is just adorable. You cna just see the joy on everyone's faces, including the President's. Whereas the ones with Mitt and the children are a whole other matter. Romney seems to be thinking "okay, I just have to get through this. It'll be over soon."

atreides1

(16,067 posts)
27. What did you expect?
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:47 PM
May 2012

It's probably a good bet, he didn't spend much time around his own kids while they were growing up...the man doesn't even look comfortable with his own grandchildren!

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
30. Governor Rick Scott of Florida
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:50 PM
May 2012

Great, smart "businessman". He volunteered to spend a few hours in a special needs class in a Title 1 school. He looked TERRIFIED from the pix taken. He was supposed to stay all day but left after an hour and a half. I guess he couldn't take it anymore.

Yep, businesses can run classrooms and schools better than educational PROFESSIONALS.

TlalocW

(15,377 posts)
31. Two Things
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:50 PM
May 2012

For the first time (even counting running for president last time), he's really having to deal with people that he considers below him - that's why he keeps saying stupid things like insulting NASCAR fans' rain ponchos and cookies being served him at photo-ops. It's all he can do to not flinch while exclaiming, "Eeeeeew! You're poor!"

Secondly, he's dealing with kids of people he considers below them. They're not really worth anything to him as voters, which is all he cares about right now where our guy can put aside politics and see the advantage in investing in our younger generation, not only for some nebulous future but the benefit of doing so to help make them good adults.

And I'm going to add a third - like Willy Wonka said (don't know if he was quoting anyone) - a little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.

TlalocW

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
33. In all fairness the President is one of the most telegenically pleasing people to
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:51 PM
May 2012

ever had constant exposure in front of Hi def cameras.

Compared to him I think just about anybody would suffer, I would hate to have to be photographed all of the time and then have them pick out the unflaterring pictures.

The President just sets a new and completely unrealistic standard and I think it may have been one of the reasons why the Bush people reasoned that it was better to wait 4 years when someone with that wasn't such a great campaigner and media guy was running for President.

ctaylors6

(693 posts)
58. I agree and
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:26 PM
May 2012

moreover this was not set up by the romney campaign to be an easy, happy photo op. Romney was in an area that will not vote for him.

I also don't really trust a small selection of photos to be indicative of much at all. I found many happy smiling photos ops of bush with kids while he was president.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
79. Very true. But I do think Romney is also very much not a "people person,"
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:54 PM
May 2012

not just relative to Obama. Obama, however, just brings it out even more and makes Romney's unease even more apparent.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
116. Just wait until they are on the same stage
Thu May 24, 2012, 06:35 PM
May 2012

It is also clear that Romney is self conscious about it and I expect that the President will be working to get under Romney's skin in the same way he was able to in 2008.

dmr

(28,344 posts)
135. This ought to be fun.
Thu May 24, 2012, 10:14 PM
May 2012

I know I had a lot of fun during the Health Care Summit.

I still get a big smile thinking about my president being smarter than a whole room full of Republicans. Ah, such a day!


Edit: spelling!

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
34. If I had had five children ...
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:53 PM
May 2012

maybe I wouldn't like kids anymore either. As it was, two was enough for me, and still I adore kids.

lsewpershad

(2,620 posts)
35. Loves to screw
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:57 PM
May 2012

Against birth control because O is for it and has millions so he does not have to worry.

Alcibiades

(5,061 posts)
39. KIssing babies is cliche
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:02 PM
May 2012

In this case, though, it seems revealing, the contrast between the unsmiling, obviously awkward Romney and our ebbullient president.

I do wonder if this is how Romney is when surrounded by the 99%.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
40. Seriously? Fuck this shit.
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:03 PM
May 2012

I'm not voting for some fucking personality competition. Does it bring you some joy to needlessly demean someone in a completely fabricated way? It makes no sense to me. There are real reasons to dislike Romney and far more reasons to not vote for him. Lets focus on that.

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
54. joy?
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:20 PM
May 2012

. . . the man is truly frightening. Almost soulless, in his every utterance and expression. He hasn't shown a wit of care for this particular community -- in his policy; in his campaign leadership; or, until recently, in his outreach. This is a stark portrait of a man who is truly uncomfortable in this setting. I think it speaks volumes about the sincerity and nature of this particular effort of his to equate education with 'civil rights.' He demonstrated a profound disconnect from the needs and concerns of this group of educators and he looks like he's not even up to connecting with the primary subjects of his campaign prop. It may just be your own narrow view of the events and atmosphere surrounding this appearance which is influencing your indifference or objection to the criticism.

I'm good with folks focusing on whatever they want, tho . . .

 

happerbolic

(140 posts)
144. just really needs to find another calling in life...
Fri May 25, 2012, 03:29 AM
May 2012

...rather than governance of any sized populace. Why tenuously work against the grain of one's own nature?

This above all: to thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day... - William Shakespeare

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
63. I think everyone is focusing on Rmoney.
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:30 PM
May 2012

How could someone so uncomfortable with children...especially black children...ever have empathy and understanding how and what these students need. That's part of being president. Bill Clinton had that people skill and look what it got him? Bob Dole didn't and look what it got him.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
72. Who says he's uncomfortable with children? Internet poster? Well, that makes it a fact.
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:45 PM
May 2012

Yeah, Bill Clinton beat Dole because he's just such a lovable guy. Had nothing to do with reaction to his first term as president.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
76. No, most racist react the way RobMe is reacting in that pic, why should people ignore...
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:50 PM
May 2012

...that?

RobMe is a dick, I honestly thought RobMe was Brown\Black People exposed and wouldn't react as stiff as he did in those pics.

I've seen the video, RobMe is an asshole...he bags on the cost of peoples rain coats, looks like he doesn't want to be around black kids and bags on his host foods.

Makes me want to go and persuade two more people in the black community to go and vote against him...I show some of the folks I know his look and they'll know exactly what I'm talking about..

This type of stuff is relevant IMHO

TBF

(32,016 posts)
103. OK, why don't you give us your list of why not to vote for Romney -
Thu May 24, 2012, 05:08 PM
May 2012

let's see what you come up with.

I really can't see why someone who supports President Obama would have a problem with anything in this OP. Presidents have to deal with people day in/out - since we have to assume they have comparable academics why would we NOT compare their people management skills?

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
124. Umm... this is about comparing B.S. photo-ops, not management skills.
Thu May 24, 2012, 08:07 PM
May 2012

So, this guy as a candidate doesn't look the way you'd like your candidate to look in a photo-op, so he's a bad guy. More than likely, I think that people will see the negative things they want to see in photos of candidates. Republican voters could probably look at those photos and say all sorts of awesome things they see in them and say loads of negative things about Obama photos. It's all fabricated bullshit. We don't have to fabricate negative talking points about Romney. We just have to listen to what he says and know that it's completely fucking nuts. This sort of weird fabrication of a personal attack seems really out of line to me. Is this what we want for our democracy? Is this sort of thing part of being an informed electorate?

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
128. Romney's awkwardness with people of all ages is well-documented.
Thu May 24, 2012, 08:36 PM
May 2012

I notice that you live in the UK, so maybe you haven't

seen as many examples of it as we have here.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
131. I'm sure that I haven't.
Thu May 24, 2012, 08:58 PM
May 2012

I don't really watch any news - most of it comes from reading. Regardless, I wouldn't really care if a politician were awkward in personal situations if they did their job well. I fail to see how this has any real import to a political discussion. I saw a thread today insulting the guy's hairstyle. If I thought this was just pure silliness, I could ignore it, but I think it actually lowers the standards of political discourse and is therefore harmful.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
149. Then I'm sure you're ability to
Fri May 25, 2012, 05:02 AM
May 2012

formulate an opinion on the matter is that much the poorer.

You may "fail to see" it, but the perception that a person is cold

and uncaring actually matters in a job where that person will be

making quality of life (and in some cases life and death)

decisions affecting the lives of millions.

The criteria for "doing the job well" in such a role are much

broader and more character dependant than those

attached to occupations like chemist or a computer technician.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
161. Actual caring and photo-op bullshit are still two totally different things.
Fri May 25, 2012, 12:03 PM
May 2012

John Edwards was great at giving people puppy-dog-eyes and telling people that he wanted to help them. I never bought it. I thought he was a fucking snake-oil salesman. I care a lot about people, but it wouldn't look like it if you threw me in a roomful of strangers for the purpose of making it look like I care. I'm not defending Romney here, but I do think a lot more ground can be gained by focusing on tangible facts about the man over pure speculation.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
173. No kidding... What you're missing is that this
Fri May 25, 2012, 03:34 PM
May 2012

does not just represent a single "photo op"...It's one more

bit of evidence in a much larger pattern of behavior.

As for "tangible facts about the man", we have plenty -- His record

as governor of Massachusetts and his stated "plans" for the economy

and they only reinforce the audio and visuals he gives.






TBF

(32,016 posts)
130. There are so many forums on DU - Good Reads for example is a place
Thu May 24, 2012, 08:52 PM
May 2012

to learn copious amounts of information about many topics. So people want to compare and contrast with photos a bit - it is not the end of the world. And honestly I'd take comparing photos and making up funny captions over the noise FAUX news spreads any day of the week. It's definitely less harmful.

amyrose2712

(3,391 posts)
155. I agree looking still pics can give you a certain impression, but I'm sure the kids all KNOW Obama
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:05 AM
May 2012

is the POTUS, and have no clue who even Romney is. That may have something to do with their enthusiasm. Of course I don't know when all of these pictures were taken. Just my 2 cents.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
164. That's how I see it, and I'm glad I'm not completely alone here.
Fri May 25, 2012, 12:20 PM
May 2012

Thinking about this today, I remember when I was just a little kid and Reagan was running for reelection. There was some sort of activity of asking us kids who we would vote for if we could vote. Reagan won in a landslide. We had no idea who Mondale was, but Reagan was on TV and was the most important, powerful person on earth.

I give my parents an awful lot of credit for not putting ideas about these things in my head at that age. I didn't know my parents were leftists until I was old enough to understand the real distinction and the implications; my dad took us to see Clinton speak in '92, and I still remember the experience clearly, if not the speech. I also remember asking my mother once who she'd voted for (I think this was in '88), and she said, "I voted for Nader and threw my vote away."

I digress... The thing is, I remember having no clue about what politics really meant, but knew that the media made Reagan and Bush out to be the good guys, and that Mondale didn't exist, and Dukakis was an idiot. The truth and mass-media appearance often have zero relationship to one another. What I wouldn't give to have Dems like those guys to vote for now.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
140. Then you're admitting you're going into that election booth halfway uninformed
Fri May 25, 2012, 01:47 AM
May 2012

We're not talking about trivial shit; "oooooh, he got a brat instead of a frank! Why does he hate hot dogs?!"

We're talking about how this man interacts with other human beings. It's kind of an important feature of being the President of the fucking United States. And don't give me this shit about 'well, lots of people are nervous in a crowd' - sure they are, and none of 'em are fit to fill the job Mitt Romney is gunning for.

I want a president who does not look at children the same way that I look at the selection at a Baskin Robbins. I want a president who is capable of acting like a human being instead of a putrefying mackerel in the company of people outside his "caste." I want a president that can speak to the president of Norway and the president of South Sudan on equal parts, instead of one who asks the latter to carry the former's luggage.

Sure, there are lots of other issues. But pretending that sociopathy isn't an issue when we're talking about the leadership position of our nation is really dumb

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
146. No, I'll be informed, and I hope I stop others from being misinformed.
Fri May 25, 2012, 04:23 AM
May 2012

Some B.S. photo-op doesn't mean shit, no matter how you want to spin it - and that's what this is; spin. So, you can look at pictures of a guy you don't like and ascribe negative attributes to that person you've already decided you don't like to fit some fictional narrative? Good for you. Hooray. Mission accomplished.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
151. Yes. Sure. It's just the pictures, sure
Fri May 25, 2012, 05:29 AM
May 2012

That's all we're going on.

You're one of those people that will watch a video of a kid getting choked by a cop and go "wait hold on, we don't know the full story here!" aren't you?

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
41. America I hope you keep Obama in November
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:05 PM
May 2012

The difference in these two men are so vast....You can see and almost feel the love coming out of Obama. Rommey is an alien robotic man....He does not even seem human

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
65. I think in that picture he's reminiscing about cutting someones hair off and wishing
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:36 PM
May 2012

he could do it again. He also looks like he's deep in his own dark thoughts and is not paying attention...daydreaming.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
178. Yeah, I never saw someone so uncomfortable around children...
Sun May 27, 2012, 06:46 PM
May 2012

especially black children. I'm surprised he didn't ask that kid to bend over so he could feel his hair. Probably was the closest he's ever been to black kids. At least his expression in those pictures would give that impression. I can't believe any black person could ever vote for him! I'm white and I couldn't...so how in the world could they?

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
142. surprise!
Fri May 25, 2012, 02:18 AM
May 2012


Mitt Romney with the word 'surprise' projected on his forehead at Universal Bluford Charter School on May 24, 2012 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
46. i pick clueless. i think those picture are sad. all the difference in smile and play with children
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:08 PM
May 2012

or clueless of knowing all he misses with being clueless with children. i think it is sad.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
47. Kids can usually sense creepy adults. And creepy adults KNOW it.
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:09 PM
May 2012

That explains the uncomfortable situation all-around.

We tell our kids if they get a "bad feeling" about an adult for any reason, to trust the feeling and not fight their gut reaction in a situation. Not talking about conflicts with an adult, like being angry or upset with a teacher or something, but where as a kid you just "feel" something's not right.

PB

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
51. He has the classic "deer in the headlights" look to him.
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:12 PM
May 2012

Of course, he could also be deep in thought..."how do I cheaply add them to the labor force?"

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
53. One guy is just AWKWARD (and can't even begin to fake it)
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:20 PM
May 2012

the other is just lovin' it. Worlds apart.

President Obama, I'm not American and you are not my President, but you are a truly class act, Sir.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
112. It seems all the haircuts met with his approval
Thu May 24, 2012, 05:20 PM
May 2012

but he better not do a photo op with Flock of Seagulls.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
62. He looks like he doesn't understand the lessons
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:30 PM
May 2012

And the kids don't look too impressed with him either.

Kids don't pretend well. They show they don't trust you or like you and they show when they like you. The contrast between the way the kids are reacting to those men is as opposite as it could be.

wickerwoman

(5,662 posts)
66. Romney's always looking at the camera, not the kids.
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:38 PM
May 2012

And in pic3 he's even looking condescending towards the teacher.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
67. That look he has is bad...really bad, I don't know about others but he doesn't want to be there
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:39 PM
May 2012

...and for a myriad of reasons one being he doesn't fit

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
82. Racist usually react the way RobMe is reacting around black kids, this is relevant and I'm
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:57 PM
May 2012

...dissapointed even more in him..I thought he'd be more comfortable around different types of people.

If this guy gets in office the non whites in this country can count on a reduction of past progresses

Nostradammit

(2,921 posts)
85. Except that it's not superficial
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:59 PM
May 2012

In fact, it is quite the opposite. It is indicative of people's reactions to the man in person and it is glaringly obvious that the man is unlikeable as a person.

His history proves him to be callous and selfish and we've already had enough of that in the White House. These photos are confirmation.

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
87. did you miss the background I provided?
Thu May 24, 2012, 04:05 PM
May 2012

Does the republican nominee appear even remotely interested in these children? It's the second of his 'outreach' efforts; yesterday he visited a Latino community. I'm personally appalled by the way he went into this community and talked down to the educators -- dismissing their concerns for smaller classrooms on the basis of some study he cited to them.

I'm personally appalled that he used this school as his campaign prop without actually offering them anything at all; save his admonitions that they could get by without more classrooms. His indifference and arrogant disregard for the needs of this community is written all over his face.

Moreover, our Democratic nominee has demonstrated care and concern in his policies; his statements; and in his open expressions of affection and interest in the children he interacts with. Somethings just can't be nailed down with mere words. I believe the images reflect a hollow and bitter man; those traits clearly evident in almost every one of his campaign's initiatives.

It's all there in the links I provided . . . the superficiality is all in your own perspective.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
75. I feel so sorry for that girl being stuck sitting next to him. I wonder if Mitt even tried
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:50 PM
May 2012

to make it fun for her.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
150. There was a post on Du not long ago from a person who, a few years back,
Fri May 25, 2012, 05:20 AM
May 2012

found themselves sitting next to Mitt Romney on a plane.

She said it was a long flight and after a brief initial acknowledgment he

never ONCE spoke to her or, if I remember correctly, even looked at her

for the duration of the flight.

She said she found it uncomfortable, but "telling" with regard to

his interpersonal skills/interests.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
77. Romney looks depressed and regretful.
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:51 PM
May 2012

As he should be. I think he is, in a way, facing a kind of judgment day for the evil things he did when he was a man on the make crushing all kinds of little folks on his way to the top.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
80. I still think he's realizing how much of an asshole he is and that others will see it..
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:56 PM
May 2012

...it's like he's hiding something.

Initech

(100,042 posts)
78. His spontaneous moments are scheduled weeks in advance.
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:53 PM
May 2012

On a cross country flight he just sits and stares at the back of the seat in front of him.

He thinks yellow mustard is spicy.

The Romans don't do as he does.

He's never been invited to a children's party. And if he was, he'd decline to attend - because the pony ride is way too intense for his taste.

He is Mitt Romney - the least interesting man in the world!!!!

Stay boring my friends.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
89. Outstanding!! DUzy material for sure.
Thu May 24, 2012, 04:18 PM
May 2012

"His spontaneous moments are scheduled weeks in advance."

ailsagirl

(22,887 posts)
84. Nitt acts like he's in a leper colony
Thu May 24, 2012, 03:59 PM
May 2012

...while our guy simply smiles his million-watt grin and draws people in like a magnet! There's something to be said for authenticity!

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
86. Probably not used to them
Thu May 24, 2012, 04:01 PM
May 2012

that's what happens when you have a staff to raise your kids. Kinda like when you have a staff to care for your dog, and you just don't know that they don't like being strapped to the roof.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
90. this pic makes me smile so hard,
Thu May 24, 2012, 04:21 PM
May 2012

my face hurts!




It's true: Vibes, Energy, Heart...whatever you want to call it. Kids can sense it. Some adults can. These pictures say A LOT!


 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
115. Wonderful, isn't it?
Thu May 24, 2012, 06:04 PM
May 2012

I don't know who is happier, the POTUS or the kids. Both he and Michelle are so obviously comfortable with kids and young people and kids are at ease with them. That says something very good about both of the Obamas.

Kadie

(15,369 posts)
91. He looks very uncomfortable.
Thu May 24, 2012, 04:26 PM
May 2012

By the way did you see this?

I posted this pic in the Video & Multimedia forum





and EarlG fixed it up...












 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
108. Some handler screwed that up royally.
Thu May 24, 2012, 05:16 PM
May 2012

You'd think his campaign would prevent anything associating Romney with dogs and driving ... Wow.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
92. He is truly without a soul
Thu May 24, 2012, 04:29 PM
May 2012

The photo op you include goes along with his attacks on public education. Apparently those evil teachers' unions just give our kids "a third world education."

The more I see and hear about Rmoney, the more creeped out I become. He lies without a thought, treats people with contempt, and has no real record to run on.

malaise

(268,721 posts)
93. There are none as honest as our children
Thu May 24, 2012, 04:29 PM
May 2012

That's not a yawning gap - that's a chasm!!

Damn that was hilarious. The kids don't even want to shake his hand - hehehehe

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
100. Romney's expression...
Thu May 24, 2012, 05:01 PM
May 2012

I've seen it on myself in pictures where I'm stuck with my terrifying conservative in-laws. He's uncomfortable as hell. You definitely shouldn't run for president if you can't even FAKE liking people.

Just ugh.

The Obama pix are priceless, however.

jp11

(2,104 posts)
102. For one it appears that the pictures of the President are from at least five
Thu May 24, 2012, 05:07 PM
May 2012

different events.

Where Romney bot has just the one event with the tiny humans.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
114. I'll speculate he was not hugged and cuddled as a child, nor did he hug and cuddle his children.
Thu May 24, 2012, 05:35 PM
May 2012

Raine

(30,540 posts)
118. Rmoney is that way with all people, it's difficult for a robot to connect
Thu May 24, 2012, 07:04 PM
May 2012

to humans who have real flesh and blood and feelings.

MsPithy

(809 posts)
120. Honest to God! I think Romney is bothered
Thu May 24, 2012, 07:36 PM
May 2012

by their hair! It is just not normal, white people, American hair.

He looks like he is thinking, wish I had my posse and a scissors!

Fucking asshat!

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
121. Those kids with Romney don't give a crap about him
Thu May 24, 2012, 07:42 PM
May 2012

Running for president doesn't earn you love and respect.

Godot51

(239 posts)
123. Upper Caste...
Thu May 24, 2012, 08:01 PM
May 2012

They're just not his caste of people; when one is a "Brahmin" and they are "Shudra" or (gasp) perhaps "Jatis"!

Cass

(2,600 posts)
126. I love Pres Obama's smile - it is an infectious and genuine smile!
Thu May 24, 2012, 08:30 PM
May 2012

You can tell he is having a ball with the kids in these photos and so are the kids. Not a bit of it forced or faked.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
132. "I'm not convinced he even likes being around these kids ?
Thu May 24, 2012, 09:29 PM
May 2012

I'm not convinced he likes being around humans

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
133. I really am beginning to think he really is just a robot and not human. He looks
Thu May 24, 2012, 09:38 PM
May 2012

sooo out of place. Yet I don't get republicans when they say Obama doesn't have our family values. Funny when he goes around the country he ozzzzzzzz charm and family values.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
136. Rmoney is clearly uncomfortable in that setting, esp. since his party has tried to take every drop
Thu May 24, 2012, 11:04 PM
May 2012

of money out of public schools.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
137. I don't think RMoney raised his kids.
Thu May 24, 2012, 11:25 PM
May 2012

I think his wife and paid help did the nitty-gritty work. He looks uncomfortable around children.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
138. I am severely hearing impaired, so I am more sensitive than
Fri May 25, 2012, 12:35 AM
May 2012

most people to body language. Romney's stiffness and discomfort, which are quite obvious to me, are perhaps not so evident that most hearing people would necessarily pick up on them.

However, the contrast is so marked when those pictures of him are compared with the images of Obama around kids that I think almost anyone can see it!

On edit: BTW, notice how Obama's hands and arms naturally, automatically reach out toward the kids whenever one or more kids are nearby, while Romney keeps his close to his own body, within his "protective" personal bubble, except when officially extending a formal handshake to one child for a photo op.

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
172. LOL...
Fri May 25, 2012, 02:24 PM
May 2012


I can barely even imagine the schedules Obama and Romney have to keep though.

I thought I was going to drop when I ran for the Florida Legislature in 2002. In fact, I did wind-up in the hospital for three days with dysentery and dehydration. It's rough.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
147. so, mittens goes to a charter school
Fri May 25, 2012, 04:24 AM
May 2012

Last edited Fri May 25, 2012, 07:54 AM - Edit history (1)

a parasite on the public school system:

uniforms, dress codes and micromanaging hair lengths for students
draconian punishments for students
sweatshop conditions for teachers
lowest pay for teachers
conformity rules in most charter schools
leaders only concerned with their own future and not the students
usually run by right wing zealots with axes to grind against public education
only giving students the courses needed to pass NCLB testing and get AYP

and the students look so happy. no one is smiling at all.


while President Obama goes to a public school:

individuality
dress codes loosely enforced
teachers treated as professionals
leaders usually concerned with education


no wonder the kids at Obama's schools are smiling.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
154. it`s really simple....
Fri May 25, 2012, 07:30 AM
May 2012

who`s policies will best serve these children in the future?

a picture is worth a thousand words

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
156. Could Romney be anymore awkward
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:00 AM
May 2012

or uncomfortable?

The Obama campaign should just make an ad alternating these pictures. No words would be necessary.

 

Madmiddle

(459 posts)
158. President Barack Obama
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:28 AM
May 2012

is a family man. The other guy is a guy with a family. Big, big difference. the president loves kids as you can see by the way the kids love him. The other guy is there for a photo op.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
160. The Prez is genuinely interested in the kids.
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:03 AM
May 2012

He likes kids.

The Mittens is uncomfortable. He can't relate at all. Kids can feel the attitude.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
163. He doesn't want to be there...whereas Obama could be buried
Fri May 25, 2012, 12:11 PM
May 2012

in a pile of children and would be loving it. Wait that last picture he IS buried in a pile of children and look at that smile!!! The kids love him! That is always one of my own personal markers of a persons character - kids like you, something good inside. God it is refreshing to have a human being in office. I've watched him transform from an uncomfortable business suit, into a family man in four years time. I think his second term will be unforgettable.

SunSeeker

(51,522 posts)
165. Rmoney's hostage pictures with these unwilling kids are disgusting.
Fri May 25, 2012, 12:33 PM
May 2012

He doesn't like these kids and the feeling is clearly mutual. These kids didn't want to be props in Rmoney's photo-op. Their hero is Obama, not this horrible man, who wants to bleed their school dry. The video the MSM kept showing on the news last night of him going along the rows of desks shaking hands with those sullen-faced kids made me sick.

nancylee

(2 posts)
168. Look at the difference in body language
Fri May 25, 2012, 01:14 PM
May 2012

Look at the difference in body language. Mittens leans back, leans from the waist, keeping his footing away from the kids, keeps his left arm back; folds hands together, closing himself off, and Obama leans into the kids, puts both arms near them, wraps his whole arm around the children. Worlds of difference.

UrbScotty

(23,980 posts)
170. Welcome to DU!
Fri May 25, 2012, 01:44 PM
May 2012

I agree - Obama does seem much more willing to interact with kids. He's much more comfortable in that kind of environment.

Spazito

(50,169 posts)
175. That was what stood out for me as well...
Fri May 25, 2012, 04:47 PM
May 2012

his body language is very closed signaling distance whereas the President's signals openness and warmth, a very stark contrast for sure.

Welcome to DU, nancylee!

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
176. it's not just his body language and inability to crack a smile
Fri May 25, 2012, 05:52 PM
May 2012

Look how self-conscious and stiff the *kids* look around him too!

Versus that other guy....

XanaDUer

(12,939 posts)
180. Kids KNOW
Sun May 27, 2012, 07:11 PM
May 2012

Kids have amazing BS detectors- if you look at the kids' faces with The Rom-O-Bot, you can see a distinct lack of enthusiasm in their faces.

They KNOW.

onethatcares

(16,163 posts)
183. Kids just know
Wed May 30, 2012, 05:19 PM
May 2012

and you can't hide a thing from them, they look right through you and know.

we lose that as we grow older and substitute bullshit in its place.

Kids know.

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