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Ben Carson keeps digging, calls Anti-Defamation Leagues Holocaust history foolishness10/9/15 12:31pm by Jon Green
Not-politician Ben Carson spoke some nonsense about the Holocaust this week, and he isnt walking it back at all, let alone gracefully.
After saying that gun control was one of the causes of the Holocaust (one of many awful things Carsons said in the last 72 hours), the Anti-Defamation League, among others, stepped in to say that, no, thats not how it went down.
As they said in a statement, quoted by ABC, Ben Carson has a right to his views on gun control, but the notion that Hitlers gun-control policy contributed to the Holocaust is historically inaccurate. The small number of personal firearms available to Germanys Jews in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state.
http://americablog.com/2015/10/ben-carson-keeps-digging-calls-anti-defamation-leagues-holocaust-history-foolishness.html
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I really think he might be suffering from dementia.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)He seems to have never heard of the Warsaw Ghetto,the Jewish partisan forces in the Soviet Union or the uprisings at Treblinka and Sobibor.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)What was his name again?
karynnj
(59,504 posts)It is beyond pathetic that to defend unbounded access to guns, he blames victims of shooting sprees and even Jews caught up in the Holocaust.
One thing that has been written about is that some Holocaust survivors feel guilt that they lived and others didn't. This is possible for the survivors of these awful shooting spree as well. Carson's comments, made from a safe place never having faced anything like that, probably hurt any who might give him any respect.
In the case of shooting sprees, one thing that is sometimes referenced is the "prisoners' dilemma" problem. For each student there, staying as inconspicuous as possible maximizes his/her individual chances for not being shot. Yet the action Carson speaks of - everyone rushing the shooter - could lead to fewer being killed.
To me, the comments on the shooting spree are worse than his Holocaust comments. He has likely caused additional pain and made it harder on the students who lived through this madness, who already likely have to live with memories of what they saw and felt that day. (The facts of the Holocaust are not in question and will not be rethought because of an ill thought out politically motivated comment.)
One other thing --- that idea -- that gun control allowed Nazis IS not new on the right. In fact, this is another case where someone on the right says something that is almost RW common "wisdom" and might be surprised that - outside of Rush Limbaugh's audience - what he said was completely unacceptable.
packman
(16,296 posts)when that foot he keeps putting up his ass reaches his head.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)It's pretty disgusting to use the Holocaust like this just to push a pro-gun agenda. Aparently the murder of so many Jews is nothing but a tool to be manipulated for them, as the history of this really isn't debatable.