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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:19 PM Oct 2015

Man hit by 16-pound pine cone in S.F. park files $5 million suit

pics of pinecones from the same type tree before people say the lawsuit is frivolous





http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Man-hit-by-16-pound-pine-cone-in-S-F-park-files-6567225.php


A tourist visiting the Bay Area for Fleet Week last year was doing nothing more than reading and napping under a tree in a federal waterfront park in San Francisco when a 16-pound pine cone fell on him and crushed his skull, his lawyer said Monday.

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“This guy has an irreversible brain injury and he’s only in his mid-50s,” said Scott Johnson, a San Francisco attorney representing Mace in the lawsuit. “He’s had two surgeries already and he is going to need a third.”

Mace went to the San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park at the Fort Mason Center on Oct. 12, 2014, to find a spot to watch the Blue Angels air show. He found himself what he thought was a peaceful place to read and rest in the northeast corner of the park under a stand of coniferous Araucaria bidwillii trees, more commonly known as bunya pines or false monkey puzzle trees, according to the lawsuit filed Sept. 4 in San Francisco federal court.

Mace was rushed to San Francisco General Hospital, where he underwent surgery to relieve pressure on his brain from internal bleeding. Five days later, another surgery was required to further relieve pressure building inside his skull, the lawsuit reads.

He suffered “traumatic brain injury, with severe and likely irreversible cognitive deficits,” according to court papers.

The suit alleges that there were no warning signs posted and no fences or netting to prevent people from hanging out under the trees, violating numerous park policies requiring the removal of exotic species that create safety hazards and mandating the installation of warning signs “necessary for visitor safety.”


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sign put up after incident




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Man hit by 16-pound pine cone in S.F. park files $5 million suit (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 OP
in a small way i get his point but...nt JanMichael Oct 2015 #1
picture of him at the link. He's got a big dent in his head! Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 #2
This reminded me of a federal lawsuit LiberalElite Oct 2015 #4
not denied but if i saw giant pods under a tree i would not sit under it. they fell from somewhere? JanMichael Oct 2015 #6
I wondered if the cones were accumulating under the trees, or if the landscape crew petronius Oct 2015 #7
probably the kind of thing people haul away as souveniers! I know I'd take one home. Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 #10
that us plausible. people may have scooped them up. nt. JanMichael Oct 2015 #11
A lot of people wouldn't look that carefully to see what the tree contained, pnwmom Oct 2015 #13
Surprised that didn't kill him. joshcryer Oct 2015 #23
those are huge, poor guy irisblue Oct 2015 #3
Seems like a dumb lawsuit Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #5
Apparently the forest service realizes the threat pipoman Oct 2015 #8
I disagree. The park had an obligation to warn people of non-obvious dangers. pnwmom Oct 2015 #14
Totally a legit lawsuit. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #21
They shouldn't have planted those trees to begin with. LisaL Oct 2015 #24
Crazy tree. No tree needs seeds that big. Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 #25
The trees may have evolved a developed a defense against lumber jacks. CentralMass Oct 2015 #26
I have pines all around my house NV Whino Oct 2015 #9
That is one mutant pinecone! Initech Oct 2015 #12
Sir Isaac Newton called and said, "Walk it off and invent some physics or something!" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #15
Damn, he was hardcore! pinboy3niner Oct 2015 #16
Wow, might need one of these jfern Oct 2015 #17
Maybe he should sue the Blue Angels Warpy Oct 2015 #18
At first I was ready to say this guy is full of shit. Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #19
And did you see the dent in his head? Seriously. nilram Oct 2015 #29
. Rex Oct 2015 #20
Courtesy of Australia, where even the pine trees can kill you Eureka Oct 2015 #22
In a lot of tropical countries there are warning signs about coconuts falling from trees all over frizzled Oct 2015 #27
Yep jberryhill Oct 2015 #34
Really? deathrind Oct 2015 #28
go to Miami during a cold spell and it would be iguanas and coconuts. hobbit709 Oct 2015 #30
I was almost been taken out by coconuts twice when I lived in south Florida. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2015 #31
Leaping lizards! jberryhill Oct 2015 #35
The only way to stop a bad tree with a pine cone... Orrex Oct 2015 #32
Imagine being on that jury! DU would look like kindergarten. nt edgineered Oct 2015 #33

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
4. This reminded me of a federal lawsuit
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:31 PM
Oct 2015

where a guy working in a yacht drydock was hit in the head by a winch which resulted in a dented head. He suffered serious psychiatric problems due to the injury to the front of his brain. I remember this from when I was just hired as a secretary in a civil defense law firm. (I don't know what the outcome was because the attorney quit and took that client with him. )

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
6. not denied but if i saw giant pods under a tree i would not sit under it. they fell from somewhere?
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:32 PM
Oct 2015

if there was a freeze and i saw huge pieces if recently shattered ice on the sidewalk i would look up and probably not wait to see the next slab or cickle fall on my face.

that was my "but"...

petronius

(26,696 posts)
7. I wondered if the cones were accumulating under the trees, or if the landscape crew
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:46 PM
Oct 2015

was in the habit of cleaning them up. If a lot of them had accumulated then I'd be less sympathetic to his case, but I still see his point: a typical and expected use of urban public parks is to sit or lie in the shade. If the park knew of the hazard, I think they had a responsibility. *

Of course, he was somewhere the the hazard was more expected--getting wonked by a coulter pine up in Los Padres NF, say--then I would think the onus was on him...

(* Caveat: I am not any sort of attorney or legal scholar.)

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
13. A lot of people wouldn't look that carefully to see what the tree contained,
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:22 PM
Oct 2015

or have any idea how heavy those things are.

But the park knew, so it should have had a warning sign.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
5. Seems like a dumb lawsuit
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:32 PM
Oct 2015

Just cut down the trees and put up a sign that says "this is why we can't have nice things"

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
8. Apparently the forest service realizes the threat
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:46 PM
Oct 2015

Since they have protocol for this and just faied to execute the protocol. If I have a public restroom and I fail to keep the floors dry I can be sued for someone's injuries.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
14. I disagree. The park had an obligation to warn people of non-obvious dangers.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:23 PM
Oct 2015

And many people could have had no idea how heavy those seed pods are.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
24. They shouldn't have planted those trees to begin with.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 01:51 AM
Oct 2015

It's an exotic specie not endogenous to the area. Who came up with the brilliant idea to plant trees the produce giant pine cones in the area where people like to walk?

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
9. I have pines all around my house
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:56 PM
Oct 2015

Those damned cones are lethal. If this guy has lost function because of his injury, he needs to be compensated.

Geez, the acorns from my oak tree nearly bonked one of my cats the other day. Hard hats for all!

Initech

(108,783 posts)
12. That is one mutant pinecone!
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:17 PM
Oct 2015

The Mutant Pinecones, by the way, saw them at the Troubadour last week. Awesome band.

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
18. Maybe he should sue the Blue Angels
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:43 PM
Oct 2015

Likely the racket they made jarred that pine cone loose.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
19. At first I was ready to say this guy is full of shit.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 11:53 PM
Oct 2015

Then I saw the size of the pinecones and the fact that there were no warning signs. This guy deserves a large settlement.

nilram

(3,549 posts)
29. And did you see the dent in his head? Seriously.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:27 AM
Oct 2015

His pic is in the gallery at the article. Seems lucky to be alive.

Eureka

(531 posts)
22. Courtesy of Australia, where even the pine trees can kill you
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:29 AM
Oct 2015

Bunya is an Australian native. You can hear them thump in the forest during the season. The "pine nuts" are about as big as a golf ball and are reasonable bush tucker when roasted. They have to block off school playgrounds where someone thought it wise to plant them many many years ago.

The would most certainly cause the injuries listed, even the smallest of them. Think pinecone mated with bowling ball.

 

frizzled

(509 posts)
27. In a lot of tropical countries there are warning signs about coconuts falling from trees all over
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:48 AM
Oct 2015

If Vanuatu can warn people about a head-crushing danger, I don't see why SF can't.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
31. I was almost been taken out by coconuts twice when I lived in south Florida.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:51 AM
Oct 2015

Once, when a full-grown one fell and narrowly missed me -- but bounced off the car I was standing next to and hit me in the stomach; and once when one jumped out from under a car I was following and viciously attacked the front tire of my motorcycle. They're cunning, they are.

Thankfully, I never had an iguana try an aerial assault.

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