Wait!? Mitt RobMe lied about the class size study TOO?!!??

[uponit7771]

RobMe cited the McKinzey study claiming it said class size does NOT ....NOT matter

Then we read this!?!?!

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-size-matters/

The McKinsey study that Romney cited also said as much: ”The available evidence suggests that, except at the very early grades, class size reduction does not have much impact on student outcomes. … More importantly, every single one of the studies showed that … variations in teacher quality completely dominate any effect of reduced class size.”

So yes, class size DOES matter earlier on...claiming it doesn't matter is misleading at best and I think another teacher challenged him on this and he never had a retort

Conservatives are QUICKLY becoming the party of morally bankrupt people who support OVERT and OUTRIGHT liars like Scott Walkers (makes up own employment numbers) and Mitt RobMe who crash's companies, fires the workers then steals their pensions 20% of the time

Your Take?!

TIA

[rocktivity]

1. Working link

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/romney-challenged-on-how-much-class-size-matters/

A teacher countered with his own study, a University of Tennessee analysis of class size that he said concluded that smaller classes were the most beneficial in the first through third grades, but less so after that.

“If you have small classes in those primary years, those most important years, that’s what makes the difference,” the teacher said. “You go to school from first to third grade; you learn to read. From third grade on, you read to learn. So if you don’t get that reading piece, you never catch up. … And then once you do that, once you have kids kind of stabilized and everybody is on the same page, you can have … bigger classes.”

There have been a host of studies about class size. That University of Tennessee study the teacher mentioned has been widely written about in education circles. Frederick Mosteller, a Harvard professor of statistics, analyzed it and wrote that “it was clear that smaller classes did produce substantial improvement in early learning and … and that the effect of small class size on the achievement of minority children was initially about double that observed for majority children, but in later years, it was about the same.”

The McKinsey study that Romney cited also said as much: ”The available evidence suggests that, except at the very early grades, class size reduction does not have much impact on student outcomes...More importantly, every single one of the studies showed that … variations in teacher quality completely dominate any effect of reduced class size.”

I absolutely agree. I think first grade is the most important grade of all because that's where you lay down the foundation of your reading and writing skills. My love of reading and writing began there.


rocktivity

[bigbrother05]

2. Studies going back to at least the mid-90s indicate reading at grade level by the 3rd grade

is one of the strongest predictors of academic success. After that, catching up and/or remediation is very hard.

The class size in early grades will impact those on the margins and will close the gap for the rest of their school career. If you can get a kid up to speed early, they are much better equipped handle the ups and downs later on.

It still doesn't take away from the idea that a smaller class size in later years is desirable, but at that point, technology and other factors are major influences.

[lonestarnot]

3. No mas pantelones!