Internet talk of boycotting star wars over black character

[Liberal_in_LA]

While #BoycottStarWarsVII hardly qualifies as an organized movement, it’s certainly generating a ton of talk.


The hashtag appears to have been launched by Twitter users — commonly referred to as trolls — who are simply trying to get a rise out of people they perceive as social justice warriors, or “SJWs.” And their mission was accomplished, because the hashtag is the No. 2 trend worldwide, at the moment, since people started arguing against such a boycott without really caring where or how it started.


Here are a few of the trolls inciting the online riot:

Let’s get #BoycottStarWarsVII trending @DarklyEnlighten

– Lord Humungus (@DarklyEnlighten) October 19, 2015

#BoycottStarWarsVII because I am sick of muds being casted in white parts. #StopAppropriatingWhiteCulture — Lord Humungus (@DarklyEnlighten) October 19, 2015

#BoycottStarWarsVII because JJ Abram’s political correctness is a code word for anti-white. — End Cultural Marxism (@genophilia) October 19, 2015

#BoycottStarWarsVII If white people aren’t wanted in Star Wars, then our money must not be either. — Critical Spooking (@officialCritDis) October 19, 2015
http://m.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Twitter-Trolls-Start-BoycottStarWarsVII-Over-6578326.php

[PoliticAverse]

1. Do not feed the trolls. n/t

[Initech]

25. That "Lord Humungus" should probably be IP banned from Twitter though.

[NewJeffCT]

36. "Humungus"

hmm, sounds like somebody is overcompensating...

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

45. I think it was the name of the leader of the baddies in Mad Max. nt

[RecoveringJournalist]

57. Yep

And it was "The Road Warrior" movie specifically.

[Warren DeMontague]

61. The real lord humungus, warrior of the wasteland, ayatollah of rock and roll-ah

has disavowed the fungal-IQ level person who stole his name for a twitter handle.

[virtualobserver]

2. I don't want to sit next to those people

I would prefer that they boycott the movie.

"casted"?

[Whiskeytide]

21. His day job is making...

... political protest signs for the Tea Party.

[MADem]

3. They aren't getting enough attention on the political boards, so they've got to move on, I guess. nt

[Agnosticsherbet]

4. Well then I will see it twice.

[Scootaloo]

5. "Stop appropriating white culture"? Dumbasses

'cuse me, Klan nerds, i'm just gonna interrupt for a second, but... white culture? really? i'll grant stormtroopers shoot about as well as most of the cracker-barrel bastards I've met down in Yaller Holler Mizzurra or wherever y'all's from. But this escapes a greater problem with your thesis.

See, the big complaint is that Stormtroopers are supposed to be clones of one dude. Now, this runs into the obvious logistical error that not all the shit CGI in Lucas' head can actually generate enough stormtrooper clones to oppress a galaxy, no matter hoe far, far away or long, long ago that galaxy is. we can easily assume there are recruits.

But alright, let's go with the flawed thesis that yeah okay, Stormtroopers are all clones. Clones of what, or who? well, that was answered in the Prequels.

They are clones of Jake "The Muss" Heke.

(Yes, he spends both movies with that expression)

Sorry, I mean Jango Fett.


Same actor. See. Jake and Jango are played by Temuera Morrison. Mr. Morrison is Maori.

If all stormtroopers are all clones, then they are all clones of Jango Fett. Jango Fett is a short, burly polynesian motherfucker. So Stormtroopers, ifthey can be glued to any Earth culture or ethnicity, are Maori.

And I would love to see stormtroopers doing a haka.



...That'll do, Internet. That'll do.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Ah, you beat me to it, pointing that out.

Maybe these genuises are confused by the white uniforms.

[underpants]

30. Classic pic

[w0nderer]

13. Temuera Morrison doing (showing people how to do) a Haka

[arcane1]

20. Not to mention the considerable Japanese influence in the style and storytelling.

Idiots. I suspect most of them don't believe their own bullshit.

[Codeine]

24. My 7-year-old walked in while I was watching

Kagemusha a few weeks back and commented that the helmets the characters had on "look like Vader's helmet." I started explaining how so much of Star Wars came from Japanese cinema but he got bored and wandered off.

[underpants]

37. Hmmm

I always understood Star Wars as a western set in space.

[arcane1]

40. He was heavily influenced by Japanese directors too, who were also inspired by westerns.

Telling the story from the droids' perspective, some of the costumes and set designs, etc, were borrowed from directors like Kurosawa:

http://www.openculture.com/2014/05/how-star-wars-borrowed-from-akira-kurosawas-great-samurai-films.html

[jeff47]

29. Damnit, now I gotta break out my Star Wars geek.

Stormtroopers are not clones.

The Jango Fett clones were trained into "Clone Troopers" that gave the Clone Wars its name.

It turns out that clones go insane over time. So the Clone Troopers were "eliminated" at the end of the Clone Wars, mostly due to more and more Clone Troopers trying to slaughter everyone they came across.

Stormtroopers are humans created "the old fashioned way".

As for cultural appropriation, Star Wars is very similar to a several classic Japanese stories.

[underpants]

31. That's what I thought too

The clones are the clones - of Boba Fett I thought but I'm not really that into it.

[jeff47]

38. Jango Fett, not Boba.

Originally, Boba Fett was his own man who became a bad-ass bounty hunter. He was actually getting pretty old by the time of the original movies.

Then Lucas decided, "Hey, people really like this guy...time for me to fuck up his backstory". And thus shit out Jango Fett. A bad-ass bounty hunter. Part of the deal that let them use Jango's DNA for the clones was to give Jango one copy that aged "normally" after he developed into something similar to a ten year old. Jango named his "son" Boba.

Why'd Boba not go insane like the rest of the clones? Who the fuck knows?

Lucas did an excellent job demonstrating just how much help he had with the first three movies when he produced the prequels.

[underpants]

43. Got it

I always was amazed at how Star Wars fans that I have know mention Boba in just reverent hushed voices. The clone thing was explained to me (not fully accurately either apparently) and then I got it.

Now I have to investigate the "Bigfoots in Space" part. Trust me I loves me some Bigfoots and their space traveling Wookie cousins

[Scootaloo]

32. ...

[LeftyMom]

6. Can I just boycott it because it looks boring and George Lucas is a hack?

[Recursion]

7. Abrams essentially locked Lucas out of the production

That was part of his deal with Disney to direct it: keep George the hell away from the creative.

[LeftyMom]

8. I'm not convinced.

That trailer had Lucas' flaws as a storyteller all over it: it got bogged down in the details and didn't seem to understand where the emotional hooks were. If Abrams had control it doesn't show.

I've actually been making the point that this is a 100% better reboot trailer both as marketing and as filmmaking, without even considering that Abrams is running the Star Wars reboot as well:

[Recursion]

9. The Trek reboot was great

I was always a TNG fan but that really got me interested in the original's characters.

I can see what you're saying about the trailer. But what you're responding to as "bogged down" I'm responding to as "mysterious": I have no idea why the exploits of the Rebellion have apparently been forgotten 20 years later, or what Dark Age the fall of the Empire flung the galaxy into (the references to Mad Max are pretty visible in this).

But, of course, you're right: if Lucas managed directly or indirectly to control this, than the worst possible interpretation of the trailer is probably true, and it is just going to be a long didactic set piece where we have to fill in a gap in storytelling with every character's action... sigh.

[Warpy]

10. Well, "fugeddaboudit" could have happened

if Skywalker had followed his daddy into the Dark Side, which almost looks like what happened since his face is missing from the trailer but the Darth helmet is back. There's nothing like being betrayed by the great man to sour people on a movement.

[jeff47]

41. There's a cult that worships Vader.

The head bad guy in the new movies is the leader of a cult that worships Darth Vader. The busted helmet is a relic for them. That's what the "finish your work" bit in the trailer is about - the bad guy is talking to the broken helmet.

Luke doesn't appear in this trailer, but he did appear in the previous one. He was "normal".

[Bluenorthwest]

14. Judging a film by the trailer is very 'book by it's cover' as the trailer is made as a marketing

device the objectives of the edit are totally different than the objectives of the film itself. The trailer is not engaged in storytelling and the only emotional hook it wants is the one that pulls your wallet out at the box office.

[Marr]

19. Oh, I couldn't disagree more.

It seems to me like Abrams recognizes some of the key beats and dynamics that made the original trilogy work. You've got the nobody farmboy (now a nobody salvage sort) living in BFE who becomes important, you've got the cool, pilot rogue as a kind of pseudo brother to an idealist, etc., etc. And it seems like he's doing something a lot more interesting with the bad guy as well. From what I've heard, he's almost like a neo Nazi to Darth Vader's Hitler. Sounds like a really great set up, imho.

[randys1]

26. Abrams is genius like when it comes to this shit, it is gonna be good, I guarantee it

[Xolodno]

56. I still can't get over how Kylo...

...looks way too much like Revan.

And then you have the line "...finish what you started"...Vader was supposed to bring "balance to the force". I don't think its actually Revan per say, but I could imagine a Revanite Order that brings back the Sith line, forcing the Jedi order to be re-established. Of course I could complete wrong, either way, its looking good. And it appears Disney made sure Lucas didn't have a chance to mess with things.

[Marr]

58. He really does.

That KotOR story with Revan was great-- and it did what Abrams appears to be doing in this film, imho. That is, it seems 'star warsy' by echoing some of the same beats from the original trilogy, but doing it in a new way. The mid-plot identity crisis was Revan was just like Luke's 'I am your father' moment.

I'm kind of hoping they don't bring Sith back into it, personally. It kind of seems to me like they're exploring more varieties of 'bad guy' force users-- almost like different religions. They'd certainly be a lot scarier without that 'rule of 2' bullshit. lol.

[jeff47]

62. That's one thing I always liked about the Old Republic timeline.

"Rule of 2" makes for far worse storytelling, IMO.

"Join the dark side! Together we will rule the galax.....where'd these 200 Jedi come from?"

[Warren DeMontague]

11. Leaving aside all the rest of the trolling and idiocy, what fucknuts actually said they believed

' the imperial army consisted of “white clones.” '????

Look, we'd all like to pretend the prequels only sort of happened (ironically enough, they could maybe have been saved with 60% more Samuel L. Jackson and a corresponding reduction in jar jar binksage) but any star wars geek worth their salt knows the clones were all clones of Temura Morrison, whose ethnic background is at least part Maori--- the guy's breakthrough film being the diffcult-to-watch "Once were warriors".



But yeah,

[jeff47]

42. Said geek would also know Stormtroopers aren't Clone Troopers. (nt)

[Warren DeMontague]

60. that, too.

but I get the feeling critical thought isn't these guys' strong suit.

[NewJeffCT]

65. As I stated above

the initial controversy was these losers being upset over the initial trailer where the black John Boyega was shown in a Stormtrooper's uniform.

Did these people not see the original Star Wars? I mean, when Luke and Han were going to rescue Leia, they dressed up as Stormtroopers. Why could Boyega not being doing the same as an homage to the original? But, no, black guy being prominently featured in the trailer automatically means white genocide.

[opiate69]

49. "Once were warriors".....

Outstanding film. Flawless performances. I knew there was a reason I liked you

[Warren DeMontague]

59. Damn! It's a rare opiate69 spotting!

Nice to see you, man

[opiate69]

67. lol!

Right back at ya, brother! Just remember, I'm always near-by

[Tipperary]

15. Stupid people.

I hope they get no attention.

[EL34x4]

18. They won't

Star Wars VII will open on December 18th and completely obliterate all previous box office and attendance records.

[mountain grammy]

16. Well, really.. what else do you expect the media to focus on?

Actual news? You know, like the 40 Congress creeps running down the country and are probably loonies making these comments.

[ProfessorGAC]

17. Was I Seeing Things?

Or was Samuel L Jackson already in 2 episodes? So, what's the deal? They've already had black, blue, green, orange, brown, gray, and white people in Star Wars.

What are these people even talking about?

[NewJeffCT]

34. I guess green aliens are okay

brown furry aliens are okay, too, it seems:


not to mention, fish-headed aliens:


and, obese frog-like aliens:


but, put a black guy in a fictional galaxy far, far away and it's 'white genocide"

[ProfessorGAC]

48. Well, At Least I Wasn't Seeing Things

I mean; really?

[NewJeffCT]

64. I knew it was coming

Because a small group of these basement dwellers were upset with the initial trailer that featured black John Boyega in a Stormtrooper's uniform.

I was surprised at the controversy back then because (1) Luke and Han had famously dressed up and posed as Stormtroopers in the original movie, and who was to say Boyega's character was not doing similar? and (2) the actor playing the "original" clone used to create the army of clones is racially mixed. Do these people just not have memories?

[underpants]

35. Samuel apparently is acceptable

Given his truly radical college years makes it all the more ironic. But hey he was in Pulp Fiction so they are cool with him I guess.

BTW "muds"? I can't say that I had heard that word used before.

[Marrah_G]

51. It's a white supremisist term.

Something about mud people referenced in the bible must have meant the darker skinned people. Which of course is idiototic since humanity began with dark skin.

[Blue_Tires]

22. The internet is full of shit and should be disregared entirely...

[Throd]

23. Totally agree.

"Somebody said something stupid on the internet" should carry the same weight as "somebody said something stupid in a bar last night".

[GummyBearz]

28. Some of the best conversation topics have been started by someone saying

"hold my beer and watch this"

:p

[Iggo]

27. Fewer racist asses taking up seats in the theaters?

I'm okay with that.

[Yavin4]

33. Billy Dee Williams is White?

[underpants]

39. "muds"?

Really?

That's a new one on me.

[Marrah_G]

52. Check out this link

http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/christian_identity.html

[underpants]

55. Thanks

[HughBeaumont]

44. Sisterhumper racists won't be at "The Force Awakens".

Where's the problem?

[nomorenomore08]

66. Gives them more time for sister-humping, if nothing else...

[CincyDem]

46. Yeah - that makes soon much sense.

I skipped Flight because, ya know, Danzel is black.
I skipped The Matrix stuff because, ya know, Laurence Fishburn - he's black too.
And of course I skipped 12 Years a Slave because, ya know, they didn't have a white guy in the title role.

Yeah - this makes so much sense.

[KamaAina]

47. May the force be against them!

[Marrah_G]

50. Aww the Stormfront internet brigade haz a sad :(

[JCMach1]

53. Does it make me a racist if I boycott it just because it's another bad Star Wars movie?

[backscatter712]

54. Hey, if it means fewer assholes in the theater when I'm watching...

Who am I to argue?

[Rex]

63. The Pathetic is strong in those trolls.

Fuck em. May they all rot in hell for eternity.

[AnnieBW]

68. Oh, Who Cares?

Who cares if they boycott? That's more tickets for the rest of us. They can stay at home in their parents' bedroom and wank off to their Slave Girl Leia poster from 1983.